[rti_india] Police Station

 

Dear Mr.Sarabjit,Gupta and Jain

 

                                               Thank you very much for your valuable opinions. I had asked BMC for the plan of the entire PG/Plot. It clearly shows  on the map.It is demarcated.On the same hundreds of hutments have crop up in last 16-20 yrs.including the space of the PG.There is one PS on the S.V Road.I will also find out whether that location is leased.Bandra and this has a distance of 4-5 Kms.

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[rti_india] Re: RTI Martyrs

 

Congrats and all the best for the endevour!

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> Friends,
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> The National RTI Forum is going to publish a book
> entitled “RTI Martyrs”. It shall be about all those RTI activists who have sacrificed
> their life on the altar of RTI activities.
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> It would be including brief biography of these RTI martyrs. At the same time,
> there shall be a detailed description of their RTI related works and their
> contributions in this field. It shall be narrating the background and sequence
> of events leading to the murder of these RTI activists. The police
> investigation and the follow up in Judiciary shall also be looked into. Finally,
> there a critical evaluation of the case shall be presented.
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> We already have a few names with us in this regards but I must agree that our
> level of information is limited. Thus, we would need a lot of help and support
> from all of you right from the stage of providing us the names of such RTI
> martyrs to giving us such other relevant information as you might.
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> Hence I request all of you to come forward and help us in making our mission a success
> so that we are able to do justice with it. This would be a true homage to these
> great departed souls.
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> The information might be sent at amitabhth@...
> or amitabhthakurlko@...
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> Amitabh Thakur
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> President,
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> National RTI Forum,
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[rti_india] Re: RTI Martyrs

 

Dear Amitabh

As I had clarified, if a member feels strongly that a common message requires circulation to all RTI groups for some extra-ordinary reason, the moderators would have no issue.

Regrettably, in this case, I am caused to temporarily restrict your posting privileges here for repeatedly circulating messages to this group advertising your NGO along with your contact details and
mobile number etc.

Hope you understand

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> Friends,
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> The National RTI Forum is going to publish a book
> entitled “RTI Martyrs”. It shall be about all those RTI activists who have sacrificed
> their life on the altar of RTI activities.
>
> It would be including brief biography of these RTI martyrs. At the same time,
> there shall be a detailed description of their RTI related works and their
> contributions in this field. It shall be narrating the background and sequence
> of events leading to the murder of these RTI activists. The police
> investigation and the follow up in Judiciary shall also be looked into. Finally,
> there a critical evaluation of the case shall be presented.
>
> We already have a few names with us in this regards but I must agree that our
> level of information is limited. Thus, we would need a lot of help and support
> from all of you right from the stage of providing us the names of such RTI
> martyrs to giving us such other relevant information as you might.
>
> Hence I request all of you to come forward and help us in making our mission a success
> so that we are able to do justice with it. This would be a true homage to these
> great departed souls.
>
> The information might be sent at amitabhth@...
> or amitabhthakurlko@...
>
> Amitabh Thakur
>
> President,
>
> National RTI Forum,
>
> Lucknow
>
> # 94155-34526
>
> (Note to the moderator- I have sent this message to other groups as well. It depends completely on you to keep it or delete as per your posting policies)
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[rti_india] RTI Martyrs

 

Friends, The National RTI Forum is going to publish a book entitled "RTI Martyrs". It shall be about all those RTI activists who have sacrificed their life on the altar of RTI activities. It would be including brief biography of these RTI martyrs. At the same time, there shall be a detailed description of their RTI related works and their contributions in this field. It shall be narrating the background and sequence of events leading to the murder of these RTI activists. The police investigation and the follow up in Judiciary shall also be looked into. Finally, there a critical evaluation of the case shall be presented. We already have a few names with us in this regards but I must agree that our level of information is limited. Thus, we would need a lot of help and support from all of you right from the stage of providing us the names of such RTI martyrs to giving us such other relevant information as you might. Hence I request all of you to come forward and help us in making our mission a success so that we are able to do justice with it. This would be a true homage to these great departed souls. The information might be sent at amitabhth@yahoo.com or amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com Amitabh Thakur President, National RTI Forum, Lucknow # 94155-34526 (Note to the moderator- I have sent this message to other groups as well. It depends completely on you to keep it or delete as per your posting policies)

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[rti_india] Re: POLICE STATION

 

Dear Mr Jain

I am somewhat puzzled

1) Mr Bunch has already asked the Police (presumably in RTI) and been informed that there is no information about allotment if land near St Elias. If it is your case that the PIO has provided false information which is actually available at higher levels, then the remedy lies in First Appeal rather than filing a fresh RTI. All the documents Bunch has obtained from BMC can be annexed as part of the First Appeal to support his appeal grounds. I am of course assuming that Bunch's RTI request to Police was competently drafted in the first instance.

2) Are we also implying that filing a fresh RTI will somehow get the Police to re-examine the need for a Police Station where Bunch wants it? What is the legal basis for such a position, and does it not impinge / bypass the rights / processes for other citizens with an equal claim to a Police Station in a different location from where Mr Bunch wants it sited ?

Sarbajit

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> Dear Raja Bunch,
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> Another option you could consider :
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> File another RTI with the police - this time, as a preamble to your inquiry, if you write that you have gathered such & such info from BMC as a fact (complete info as provided by BMC without changing it in any way) and ask for info regarding future plans to build a police station, what has been the activity in thisc regard since allocation etc, it might force them to look into relevant files & give you info rather than saying they have no info.
> Another thing you might consider is who are you asking for the info - the local police stn may be right in saying they have no info but higher up authorities at the appropriate level - perhaps Deputy Commr levet - would be involved in planning new police stns etc.
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> Chandra K Jain
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[rti_india] POLICE STATION

 

Dear Raja Bunch,   Another option you could consider :   File another RTI with the police - this time, as a preamble to your inquiry, if you  write  that you have gathered such & such info from BMC as a fact (complete info as provided by BMC without changing it in any way) and ask for info regarding future plans to build a police station, what has been the activity in thisc regard since allocation etc, it might force them to look into relevant files & give you info rather than saying they have no info. Another thing you might consider is who are you asking for the info - the local police stn may be right in saying they have no info but higher up authorities at the appropriate level - perhaps Deputy Commr levet - would be involved in planning new police stns etc.   Chandra K Jain 93124 39464 INDIA

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Re: [rti_india] Police Station

 

there is two option and we must choose both 1. we must reach the cic askinf for which one is correct. If any one is correct that there should fine to other and definately this fine must be huge, and after that find the correct position we must FIR against the PIO who provided the wrong information 2. we must file a writ petition against the BMC and we shold take the step assume that police is right and more over there is require of school not police station in tyhe city.   Shaoor A. Kahn   C/o Rakhi Gupta --- On Tue, 30/3/10, raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> Subject: [rti_india] Police Station To: "janenge groups" <humjanenge@yahoogroups.co.in> Cc: rti_india@yahoogroups.com, "prabhu bhaskar" <wearcraft@vsnl.com> Date: Tuesday, 30 March, 2010, 8:44 PM       Friends                     RTI reply from BMC H/W says there is a reservation of a plot in their jurisdiction for a police station near St Elias.Police says they do not know/ignorant. What should be my next step? Regards Bunch Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!.

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[rti_india] Re: Police Station

 

Dear Friend,

As I understand it, you filed 2 RTIs one to BMC and the other to "the Police".

The BMC replied that there is an allocation for a plot near some St.Elias. The Police on the other hand replied that they have no information about a) the specifics of the plot (ie, its actual size, exact location, possession etc) OR b) the fact of allocation / reservation of the plot in terms of a "plan" which is yet to be translated into a physical possession.

As a private citizen you have no "enforceable right" to insist that the Police erect a Police Station there even though a plot is allocated / "reserved" for a Police Station.

Hence you must assume that both PIOs have replied to you properly. You must then suitably bring the fact of allocation of the plot to the attention of the Police, and begin submitting "representations" for a Police Station to be constructed there. After your efforts eventually bear fruit, you will have the satisfaction of seeing some 3rd rate local politician (MLC, councilor etc) take the credit for your labour.

Sarbajit

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> RTI reply from BMC H/W says there is a reservation of a plot in their jurisdiction for a police station near St Elias.Police says they do not know/ignorant.What should be my next step?
> Regards
> Bunch
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[rti_india] Police Station

 

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                  RTI reply from BMC H/W says there is a reservation of a plot in their jurisdiction for a police station near St Elias.Police says they do not know/ignorant.What should be my next step?

Regards

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