| Dear Mr. Vijaya Singh, So, you want all to be a silent spectator and keep quite whatever atrocities and irregularities happening in the country. Just imagine, if our Freedom Fighters had also kept quite like what you think, what would have happened to the country. We would have been still slaves of the British and continued to be slaves. You like that ? IAC has named its email id as indiaresists@lists.riseup.net. What does it mean ? Answer is in the question itself. There are so many ways to show the Public dissatisfaction to the Govt. policies. In a democracy, fasting, strike, peaceful demonstration, slogan shouting, dharna etc., etc., are some of the ways to show the resentment by the aggrieved public. If resentments are not expressed by some means of protests, the Govt. will come to conclution that whatever they do is right and people are with them. It is most surprising that even after exposure of so many Scams by the present Govt. you are of the opinion that slogan shouting and dharnas are the problems of the country. God save our Democracy !! With Best Regards, A.S.KALYANAM --- On Thu, 28/2/13, Vijaya Singh <vijayasingh2006@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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Thursday, February 28, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
There was no chance of Gen VK Singh loosing the case. I blame him for
choosing the wrong Advocate. If you remember Gen VK Singh's Advocate
was even absent in one of the hearing and Mr.Jethmalani had saved he
situation. There was some mistakes in one of the applications filed by
him in the initial stage which was rectified before his commissioning
or immediately after commissioning. The mistaken document was
redundant and had no value. I wish our Parliamentarians take up the
issue in case there is a change of government after next election.
Col NR Kurup (Retd)
On 01/03/2013, Mohinder Singh Mann <colmsmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we
> trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our
> time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela
> <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots
>> of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence
>> Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then
>> Chief
>> Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.
>>
>> To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the
>> Contemporary Indian History.
>>
>> With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People
>> have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.
>>
>> The very basic documents - *medical records of the army hospital where
>> Shri V K Singh was reportedly born* - confirm the fact as birth is an
>> unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by
>> the
>> Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme
>> Courts.
>>
>> Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the
>> country is as under -
>>
>> *Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in
>> public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate.
>> Please publish it fast.... *https://t.co/mDlIC0Ew
>>
>> *Second Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still
>> in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing
>> but
>> Goondaism..* https://t.co/lgdxyFVd
>>
>> Third Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army
>> Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was
>> born..
>> https://t.co/UWUmBsrE
>>
>> *PS* - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under
>> Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw
>>
>> (*My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not
>> got me response.*)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> (Babubhai Vaghela)
>> C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
>> Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
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>
choosing the wrong Advocate. If you remember Gen VK Singh's Advocate
was even absent in one of the hearing and Mr.Jethmalani had saved he
situation. There was some mistakes in one of the applications filed by
him in the initial stage which was rectified before his commissioning
or immediately after commissioning. The mistaken document was
redundant and had no value. I wish our Parliamentarians take up the
issue in case there is a change of government after next election.
Col NR Kurup (Retd)
On 01/03/2013, Mohinder Singh Mann <colmsmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we
> trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our
> time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela
> <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots
>> of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence
>> Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then
>> Chief
>> Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.
>>
>> To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the
>> Contemporary Indian History.
>>
>> With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People
>> have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.
>>
>> The very basic documents - *medical records of the army hospital where
>> Shri V K Singh was reportedly born* - confirm the fact as birth is an
>> unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by
>> the
>> Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme
>> Courts.
>>
>> Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the
>> country is as under -
>>
>> *Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in
>> public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate.
>> Please publish it fast.... *https://t.co/mDlIC0Ew
>>
>> *Second Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still
>> in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing
>> but
>> Goondaism..* https://t.co/lgdxyFVd
>>
>> Third Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army
>> Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was
>> born..
>> https://t.co/UWUmBsrE
>>
>> *PS* - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under
>> Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw
>>
>> (*My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not
>> got me response.*)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> (Babubhai Vaghela)
>> C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
>> Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
>> http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
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>
Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
I agree
On 1 March 2013 07:25, Mohinder Singh Mann <colmsmann@gmail.com> wrote:
He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Dear All,In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then Chief Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the Contemporary Indian History.With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.The very basic documents - medical records of the army hospital where Shri V K Singh was reportedly born - confirm the fact as birth is an unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by the Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme Courts.Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the country is as under -Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate. Please publish it fast.... https://t.co/mDlIC0EwSecond Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing but Goondaism.. https://t.co/lgdxyFVdThird Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was born.. https://t.co/UWUmBsrEPS - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw(My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not got me response.)Regards,--
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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
For a common man, he is VK Singh.
--
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
Like JS Verma.
After retirement, their designations must go.
They become Common Man.
Why should we not know the Correct Date of Birth to punish the culprit in the sordid saga of high level power struggle?
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Mohinder Singh Mann <colmsmann@gmail.com> wrote:
He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Dear All,In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then Chief Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the Contemporary Indian History.With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.The very basic documents - medical records of the army hospital where Shri V K Singh was reportedly born - confirm the fact as birth is an unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by the Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme Courts.Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the country is as under -Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate. Please publish it fast.... https://t.co/mDlIC0EwSecond Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing but Goondaism.. https://t.co/lgdxyFVdThird Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was born.. https://t.co/UWUmBsrEPS - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw(My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not got me response.)Regards,--
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RE: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
THERE IS JOKE GOING ON SO PLEASE TAKE THAT WAY:
IN CASE OF FAMOUS RAPE CASE OF DELHI SCHOOL CERTICATE IS CONSIDER AS A PROOF OF BIRTH, BY THE COURT, IN CASE OF ONE OF THE ACCUSSED AND DECLARE HIM MINOR. WHERE AS IN CASE OF ARMY CHIEFS CASE HIS SCHOOL CERTIFICATEs DATE OF BIRTH IS REJECTED AS PROOF.
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:25:27 +0530
From: colmsmann@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
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IN CASE OF FAMOUS RAPE CASE OF DELHI SCHOOL CERTICATE IS CONSIDER AS A PROOF OF BIRTH, BY THE COURT, IN CASE OF ONE OF THE ACCUSSED AND DECLARE HIM MINOR. WHERE AS IN CASE OF ARMY CHIEFS CASE HIS SCHOOL CERTIFICATEs DATE OF BIRTH IS REJECTED AS PROOF.
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 07:25:27 +0530
From: colmsmann@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then Chief Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the Contemporary Indian History.With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.The very basic documents - medical records of the army hospital where Shri V K Singh was reportedly born - confirm the fact as birth is an unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by the Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme Courts.Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the country is as under -Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate. Please publish it fast.... https://t.co/mDlIC0EwSecond Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing but Goondaism.. https://t.co/lgdxyFVdThird Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was born.. https://t.co/UWUmBsrEPS - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw(My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not got me response.)Regards,--
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Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
It is not that no one knows what role these advocates play as familiarity link and why corrupt service providers takes the advantage.
The unorganised consumer is at logger head. Advocates have laddoos in both hands and one for the deity too at the cost of the consumer.
It shows in lesser cases.
Mr Beniwal has a dream.
A dream of public spirited Advocates.
God has broken the die.
The rot has set in. Set in deep.
Nexus can be seen by one and all.
On 28-Feb-2013 8:44 AM, "Ravindran P M" <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
wish there were more public spirited advocates in our society. Though the law provides for even citizens to present their cases directly, it will invariably be a losing battle as I have seen even in consumer 'courts' the bias is evidently in favour of the delinquent goods/service provider who is invariably representd by an advocate.
regards n bw
raviOn Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All, In terms of Supreme Court Judgment in Orissa Govt Vs Mamata
Mohanty case, recruitment done without inviting applications through
Public Notive giving due opportunity to all desirous / eligible is
illegal. The person so 'hand-pick manner' selected and appointed by
Govt is not even entitled to salary. That being the clear judicial
order by SC, I have requested Prime Minister to issue Public Notice
for inviting applications for recruiting High Court Judges. I am
awaiting response. A simple RTI can push the matter. Further, this is
a good material for filing PIL for judicial direction to Govt for
centralised, democratic, non-arbitrary, selection criteria based
transparent selection and appointment of HC Judges. Regards,
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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
He is not Shri V K Singh . He is General V K Singh (Retd ) . Why are we trying to retrieve the dead bodies from the graves ? We are wasting our time as usual being Indians . Don't we have better things to do ?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then Chief Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the Contemporary Indian History.With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.The very basic documents - medical records of the army hospital where Shri V K Singh was reportedly born - confirm the fact as birth is an unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by the Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme Courts.Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the country is as under -Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate. Please publish it fast.... https://t.co/mDlIC0EwSecond Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing but Goondaism.. https://t.co/lgdxyFVdThird Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was born.. https://t.co/UWUmBsrEPS - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw(My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not got me response.)Regards,--
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Re: [IAC#RG] HC Judges - Most crucial is Transparent & Democratic Selection Process
Dear All
Let me alert all apolitical citizens to another trap that the RBI has laid for promoting crony capitalists, by announcing a totally opaque and subjective qualifying criteria and procedure for granting new banking licenses. This will facilitate dubious persons with influence in the Government to gget a liocense. Please read yesterday's newspapers. The so called guidelines confer so much discretion to RBI that it can result in a scam llike 2G. The opaque license permit raj seems to be here again!. This mischief must be nipped in the bud.
With regards
N.Natarajan
Dear All,
Respected Shri Sunil Ahya has done excellent analysis of American & Indian
system of appointing and removing Supreme Court Judges –
http://sunilahya.livejournal.com/5605.html.
It is a must read for the apolitical concerned citizens.
The American system is an excellent one in weeding out the corrupt and the
pliable persons.
In the light of the above, what I say is it is the "*Transparent &
Democratic Selection Process*" that is of crucial importance and should be
followed for selection of HC Judges in India.
I repeat "Transparent & Democratic Selection Process" is of crucial
importance.
Who selects the High Court Judges would then be relatively of little
significance once the sanctity of the selection process is maintained and
it should be the critical job of We the People to ensure the sanctity of
process by being extra vigilant.
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Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 10:23 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] HC Judges - Most crucial is Transparent & Democratic Selection Process
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 10:23 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] HC Judges - Most crucial is Transparent & Democratic Selection Process
Dear All,
Respected Shri Sunil Ahya has done excellent analysis of American & Indian
system of appointing and removing Supreme Court Judges –
http://sunilahya.livejournal.com/5605.html.
It is a must read for the apolitical concerned citizens.
The American system is an excellent one in weeding out the corrupt and the
pliable persons.
In the light of the above, what I say is it is the "*Transparent &
Democratic Selection Process*" that is of crucial importance and should be
followed for selection of HC Judges in India.
I repeat "Transparent & Democratic Selection Process" is of crucial
importance.
Who selects the High Court Judges would then be relatively of little
significance once the sanctity of the selection process is maintained and
it should be the critical job of We the People to ensure the sanctity of
process by being extra vigilant.
With kind regards,
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Re: [IAC#RG] HAPPY NEWS FOR RTI ACTIVISTS
| Dear Sri Sandeep Guptaji, I beg to disagree with you. I am in Chennai, Tamil Nadu. I am yet to find a Stamp Vendor selling Non-Judicial Stamp Papers at par i.e. for the same value of the Stamp Paper. Unless you pay extra money, no Stamp Paper will be sold. I also disagree with Sri Maniramji that the Stamp Vendors are getting only nominal commission. They get a commission of 10% on the value of the Stamp Paper. Is it not sufficient for a job, sitting under a roof, selling like a hot cake only on cash and carry basis. They realise their money instantly with a commission of 10% and Stamp Papers are alwaysin demand. IAC should apply their mind on this how to arrest the corruption on selling Stamp Paper. Notary Publics demanding exhortant amounts for attestation also to be voiced in the Bar Council of India. Notary Publics are licensed by High Courts and Supreme Court. So, the Courts should fix the charges for attestation and any Notary Public demanding more than the authorised charges, their Notary Public Licenses should be withdrawn. The Notary Attestatiion Charges should be exhibited in the Courts in conspecuous places and also at Notary Public Offices. Will IAC take up this with the Bar Council of India and Registrar of Courts. With Best Regards, A.S.KALYANAM --- On Thu, 28/2/13, Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [IAC#RG] WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
I suppose slogan shouting and dharnas are the ultimate solution for all problems of the country.
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Subject: [IAC#RG] WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
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WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
When the Finance Minister allots funds in his budget under various schemes and claims that all these schemes are ultimately for the benefit of the economically deprived section of the society, the common men inevitably view such budget proposals with scepticism and disinterest.
The fact is that there is no project of the government today where substantial amount of funds are not syphoned away by the politicians , government officials at various levels and business men ; all at the cost the aam admi for whom such projects and funds are supposed to be ultimately intended. In India , it has become a hopeless situation , with the Prime Minister of India not seem to be concerned about the level of corruption and nepotism in his administration. He conveniently keeps his eyes and mouth closed , while the fact is that he has all the powers to enforce probity in public life , if only he has the desire, will and administrative acumen.
This budget which the Prime Minister and Finance minister claim as one of thoughtful exercise , is a wasteful document as far as the common man is concerned, who now realises that anything positive can happen in the country only with the eradication of corruption. In such corrupt conditions, the budget is a proposal in vacuum, as the implementing machinery continues to remain dishonest.
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[IAC#RG] HC Judges - Most crucial is Transparent & Democratic Selection Process
Dear All,
Respected Shri Sunil Ahya has done excellent analysis of American & Indian
system of appointing and removing Supreme Court Judges –
http://sunilahya.livejournal.com/5605.html.
It is a must read for the apolitical concerned citizens.
The American system is an excellent one in weeding out the corrupt and the
pliable persons.
In the light of the above, what I say is it is the "*Transparent &
Democratic Selection Process*" that is of crucial importance and should be
followed for selection of HC Judges in India.
I repeat "Transparent & Democratic Selection Process" is of crucial
importance.
Who selects the High Court Judges would then be relatively of little
significance once the sanctity of the selection process is maintained and
it should be the critical job of We the People to ensure the sanctity of
process by being extra vigilant.
With kind regards,
--
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C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
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Respected Shri Sunil Ahya has done excellent analysis of American & Indian
system of appointing and removing Supreme Court Judges –
http://sunilahya.livejournal.com/5605.html.
It is a must read for the apolitical concerned citizens.
The American system is an excellent one in weeding out the corrupt and the
pliable persons.
In the light of the above, what I say is it is the "*Transparent &
Democratic Selection Process*" that is of crucial importance and should be
followed for selection of HC Judges in India.
I repeat "Transparent & Democratic Selection Process" is of crucial
importance.
Who selects the High Court Judges would then be relatively of little
significance once the sanctity of the selection process is maintained and
it should be the critical job of We the People to ensure the sanctity of
process by being extra vigilant.
With kind regards,
--
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur,
Ahmedabad - 380051 M - 94276 08632
http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
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[IAC#RG] WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
To
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WITH CORRUPTION RIDDEN ADMINISTRATION , BUDGET MEANS NOTHING
When the Finance Minister allots funds in his budget under various schemes and claims that all these schemes are ultimately for the benefit of the economically deprived section of the society, the common men inevitably view such budget proposals with scepticism and disinterest.
The fact is that there is no project of the government today where substantial amount of funds are not syphoned away by the politicians , government officials at various levels and business men ; all at the cost the aam admi for whom such projects and funds are supposed to be ultimately intended. In India , it has become a hopeless situation , with the Prime Minister of India not seem to be concerned about the level of corruption and nepotism in his administration. He conveniently keeps his eyes and mouth closed , while the fact is that he has all the powers to enforce probity in public life , if only he has the desire, will and administrative acumen.
This budget which the Prime Minister and Finance minister claim as one of thoughtful exercise , is a wasteful document as far as the common man is concerned, who now realises that anything positive can happen in the country only with the eradication of corruption. In such corrupt conditions, the budget is a proposal in vacuum, as the implementing machinery continues to remain dishonest.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice for The Deprived
Email:- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
Re: [IAC#RG] Supreme Court Collegium
So you are suggesting that 1 set of thieves should appoint another set ?
The problem which nobody is saying openly is this:-
1) "DECLINING STANDARDS OF HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN JUDGES/JUDICIARY"
2) "FROM A FEW ROTTEN APPLES, ALMOST THE WHOLE BASKET IS ROTTEN"
3) "SENIOR ADVOCATE SYSTEM HAS CONVERTED JUDGES INTO PROSTITUTES"
4) "JUDGES ARE ELEVATED ON BASIS OF THEIR FATHER, GRANDFATHER,
GODFATHER, FATHER OF NATION"
I can give 100 more statements like this - all true.
What is the cure ? Contact me OFFLIST
Sarbajit
On 2/28/13, Vaghela B D <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If IAC is really serious on curbing corruption then IAC should seek legal
> recourse for appointment of HC Judges by Parliament in democratic and
> transparent manner.
>
> ------------------------------
> On Wed 27 Feb, 2013 11:42 PM IST Vidyut Kale wrote:
>
>>Agree that selection processes need to be better everywhere, judiciary
>>included. Transparency and standardized protocols cannot be stressed
>>enough.
>>
>>That said, who will bell the cat, the authority to dismiss demands for
>>change with many and has great power, while no one really has the
>> authority
>>to make these declarations.
>>
>>Vidyut
>
>
The problem which nobody is saying openly is this:-
1) "DECLINING STANDARDS OF HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN JUDGES/JUDICIARY"
2) "FROM A FEW ROTTEN APPLES, ALMOST THE WHOLE BASKET IS ROTTEN"
3) "SENIOR ADVOCATE SYSTEM HAS CONVERTED JUDGES INTO PROSTITUTES"
4) "JUDGES ARE ELEVATED ON BASIS OF THEIR FATHER, GRANDFATHER,
GODFATHER, FATHER OF NATION"
I can give 100 more statements like this - all true.
What is the cure ? Contact me OFFLIST
Sarbajit
On 2/28/13, Vaghela B D <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If IAC is really serious on curbing corruption then IAC should seek legal
> recourse for appointment of HC Judges by Parliament in democratic and
> transparent manner.
>
> ------------------------------
> On Wed 27 Feb, 2013 11:42 PM IST Vidyut Kale wrote:
>
>>Agree that selection processes need to be better everywhere, judiciary
>>included. Transparency and standardized protocols cannot be stressed
>>enough.
>>
>>That said, who will bell the cat, the authority to dismiss demands for
>>change with many and has great power, while no one really has the
>> authority
>>to make these declarations.
>>
>>Vidyut
>
>
Re: [IAC#RG] Supreme Court Collegium
No politics be introduced in appointment of HC/SC Judges.It will be very dangerous
for independence of judiciary.
D.C.Verma
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Vaghela B D <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
If IAC is really serious on curbing corruption then IAC should seek legal recourse for appointment of HC Judges by Parliament in democratic and transparent manner.
------------------------------
On Wed 27 Feb, 2013 11:42 PM IST Vidyut Kale wrote:
>Agree that selection processes need to be better everywhere, judiciary
>included. Transparency and standardized protocols cannot be stressed
>enough.
>
>That said, who will bell the cat, the authority to dismiss demands for
>change with many and has great power, while no one really has the authority
>to make these declarations.
>
>Vidyut
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Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
These are the kind of myths that are fed to the gullible public so that the evil forces can have their way. When they are paid by the exchequer and they are also public servants what is this great deal about them not being appointed to a govt post? Ok, they are not govt servants as the babus are, so what? This is not to say that we should leave it to the politicians to appoint them. But a well laid down, transparent procedure that will help the best and fair judicial minds to adjudicate, that is a sine qua non for a reliable and effective judiciary!
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Dinesh Verma <dcverma06@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,Appointment as H.C./S.C.Judge is not to a Govt.post.It is an appointment to a constitutional post.This post can not filled like any other Govt.post by giving public notice.D.C.VermaOn Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All, In terms of Supreme Court Judgment in Orissa Govt Vs Mamata
Mohanty case, recruitment done without inviting applications through
Public Notive giving due opportunity to all desirous / eligible is
illegal. The person so 'hand-pick manner' selected and appointed by
Govt is not even entitled to salary. That being the clear judicial
order by SC, I have requested Prime Minister to issue Public Notice
for inviting applications for recruiting High Court Judges. I am
awaiting response. A simple RTI can push the matter. Further, this is
a good material for filing PIL for judicial direction to Govt for
centralised, democratic, non-arbitrary, selection criteria based
transparent selection and appointment of HC Judges. Regards,
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[IAC#RG] RTI - Do we have the Right to Know Correct Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh?
In the appointment of the successor to Shri V K Singh as Army Chief, lots of dirty politics was played, with most crucial key players being Defence Minister Mr AK Antony, Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh and the then Chief Justice of India Mr Justice SH Kapadia.
To me, it was one of the rarest High Level Power Struggles in the Contemporary Indian History.
With due respect to Shri V K Singh, retired Chief of Army, We the People have the Right to Know his correct Date of Birth.
The very basic documents - medical records of the army hospital where Shri V K Singh was reportedly born - confirm the fact as birth is an unchangeable fact of life and not a matter of interpretation whether by the Chief Justice of India or opined by the retired Judges of the Supreme Courts.
Correspondence in the subject matter made at the highest level in the country is as under -
Dr Manmohan Singh : President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate is in public domain : We have the Right to Know Army Chief Birth Certificate. Please publish it fast.... https://t.co/mDlIC0Ew
Second Reminder to CVC - If Army Chief seeks legal recourse while still in office, the Government could consider sacking him - This is nothing but Goondaism.. https://t.co/lgdxyFVd
Third Reminder to CVC - Age row: Govt trying to work out truce with Army Chief - Why Secrecy on Date of Birth & Hospital Records where he was born.. https://t.co/UWUmBsrE
PS - MoD GOI denied RTI Info on Date of Birth of Shri V K Singh under Section 8 (1) (j) - https://t.co/93kxzKiw
(My recent request to Shri V K Singh to disclose his Birth details not got me response.)
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Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
whether it is HC or SC - there are various considerations for appointment of judges - which is considered in respect of the candidate's professional, legal, moral, ethical, honesty and social attitude, expertise, knowledge and behaviour ! !
The HC and SC are formed under the Constitution and they are Constitutional Authority, deriving their powers under the Constitution, so nothing can be changed until Constitution allows and permits the same.
It is sad, tragic and unfortunate but saying anything more will be considered defamatory as well as contempt of the Courts and Judiciary and other things..
so, it is better to comment only after they - Government and Judiciary - announces any action plan rather than advising them as the same will be unsolicited advice and will not be considered as necessary and required.
Disclaimer: All the above comments and views are my personal views and not made to offend or hurt anyone person or institution or any other legal person or authority.
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Swami Vivekananda: "Awake, arise, the Motherland is in danger".
Ayn Rand, an American novelist: "When you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods but in favours, when you see that men get rich more easily by graft rather than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you, you know that your society is doomed."
The HC and SC are formed under the Constitution and they are Constitutional Authority, deriving their powers under the Constitution, so nothing can be changed until Constitution allows and permits the same.
It is sad, tragic and unfortunate but saying anything more will be considered defamatory as well as contempt of the Courts and Judiciary and other things..
so, it is better to comment only after they - Government and Judiciary - announces any action plan rather than advising them as the same will be unsolicited advice and will not be considered as necessary and required.
Disclaimer: All the above comments and views are my personal views and not made to offend or hurt anyone person or institution or any other legal person or authority.
regards
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mani Ram Sharma <maniramsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
A committee of Rajya Sabha has already recommended that Hc judges must be selected through a written test. But the Political motives can't be achieved though any transparent system. Here lies the central Problem with Indian Judiciary and Politicians combine.Mani Ram Sharma.On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All, In terms of Supreme Court Judgment in Orissa Govt Vs Mamata
Mohanty case, recruitment done without inviting applications through
Public Notive giving due opportunity to all desirous / eligible is
illegal. The person so 'hand-pick manner' selected and appointed by
Govt is not even entitled to salary. That being the clear judicial
order by SC, I have requested Prime Minister to issue Public Notice
for inviting applications for recruiting High Court Judges. I am
awaiting response. A simple RTI can push the matter. Further, this is
a good material for filing PIL for judicial direction to Govt for
centralised, democratic, non-arbitrary, selection criteria based
transparent selection and appointment of HC Judges. Regards,
--
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C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur, Ahmedabad - 380051
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Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] Supreme Court Collegium
If IAC is really serious on curbing corruption then IAC should seek legal recourse for appointment of HC Judges by Parliament in democratic and transparent manner.
------------------------------
On Wed 27 Feb, 2013 11:42 PM IST Vidyut Kale wrote:
>Agree that selection processes need to be better everywhere, judiciary
>included. Transparency and standardized protocols cannot be stressed
>enough.
>
>That said, who will bell the cat, the authority to dismiss demands for
>change with many and has great power, while no one really has the authority
>to make these declarations.
>
>Vidyut
------------------------------
On Wed 27 Feb, 2013 11:42 PM IST Vidyut Kale wrote:
>Agree that selection processes need to be better everywhere, judiciary
>included. Transparency and standardized protocols cannot be stressed
>enough.
>
>That said, who will bell the cat, the authority to dismiss demands for
>change with many and has great power, while no one really has the authority
>to make these declarations.
>
>Vidyut
Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: HAPPY NEWS FOR RTI ACTIVISTS
Dear Maniram ji:
So when the lawyers and judges will resort to illegal practices where will be the legal system of our nation stand?
The sad news of Rishabdev few days ago when two police officers abused a 14 year old daughter of their colleague lady police officer reveals the sad state of our law enforcement. "Jab Baad hi khet ko khaa jaayegi to us khet ko kon bachaayagaa." Aren't Our own people our enemies? Don't you need the youth of this country and educated citizens of this nation to speak up and fixed these problems??
With best wishes for your health and happiness, and regards, Sincerely, DS
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: HAPPY NEWS FOR RTI ACTIVISTS
Govt gives only a nominal commission to vendors on stamp papers. Likewise the ration dealers are given a limited commission. Public Prosecutors in DJ/ADJ Court are given a monthly salary of Rs.7000/=. The esteemed govts are well aware that one can't survive on the strength of this meager amount and he will have to resort to some illegal/corrupt Practices. More over the stamp vendors have to pay also commission to Treasury Staff for issuance of stamps. Delhi is a costly city where per capita income as well as cost of living is as high as 3 times of National average. Nothing is going to improve from the said complaint. The Police, which is also corrupt, will milch the vendor and the matter will be tranquilized.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM, anand gupta <akgupta2005@yahoo.com> wrote:27th February 2013Dear Friend,Let me share my experience with you.After experiencing the same problem as you, I lodged a complaint with the Police Commissioner.There was prompt registration of complaint, and assurance of action, as may be seen from the following excerpts.Somehow, I'm not aware of the progress thereafter, and have failed to chase it so far.But, you may like to lodge a similar complaint, and then follow it up, more efficiently than me.---
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Re: [IAC#RG] HAPPY NEWS FOR RTI ACTIVISTS
I agree with Mr gupta and disagree with Mr mani ram ji. I have never bought stamp papers at price above what has been written on them. The problem is that we don't want to waste time in making complaints. We must also follow up the matter.
On Thursday, February 28, 2013, Mani Ram Sharma <maniramsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
> Govt gives only a nominal commission to vendors on stamp papers. Likewise the ration dealers are given a limited commission. Public Prosecutors in DJ/ADJ Court are given a monthly salary of Rs.7000/=. The esteemed govts are well aware that one can't survive on the strength of this meager amount and he will have to resort to some illegal/corrupt Practices. More over the stamp vendors have to pay also commission to Treasury Staff for issuance of stamps. Delhi is a costly city where per capita income as well as cost of living is as high as 3 times of National average. Nothing is going to improve from the said complaint. The Police, which is also corrupt, will milch the vendor and the matter will be tranquilized.
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM, anand gupta <akgupta2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> 27th February 2013
>> Dear Friend,
>> Let me share my experience with you.
>> After experiencing the same problem as you, I lodged a complaint with the Police Commissioner.
>> There was prompt registration of complaint, and assurance of action, as may be seen from the following excerpts.
>> Somehow, I'm not aware of the progress thereafter, and have failed to chase it so far.
>> But, you may like to lodge a similar complaint, and then follow it up, more efficiently than me.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
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On Thursday, February 28, 2013, Mani Ram Sharma <maniramsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
> Govt gives only a nominal commission to vendors on stamp papers. Likewise the ration dealers are given a limited commission. Public Prosecutors in DJ/ADJ Court are given a monthly salary of Rs.7000/=. The esteemed govts are well aware that one can't survive on the strength of this meager amount and he will have to resort to some illegal/corrupt Practices. More over the stamp vendors have to pay also commission to Treasury Staff for issuance of stamps. Delhi is a costly city where per capita income as well as cost of living is as high as 3 times of National average. Nothing is going to improve from the said complaint. The Police, which is also corrupt, will milch the vendor and the matter will be tranquilized.
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM, anand gupta <akgupta2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> 27th February 2013
>> Dear Friend,
>> Let me share my experience with you.
>> After experiencing the same problem as you, I lodged a complaint with the Police Commissioner.
>> There was prompt registration of complaint, and assurance of action, as may be seen from the following excerpts.
>> Somehow, I'm not aware of the progress thereafter, and have failed to chase it so far.
>> But, you may like to lodge a similar complaint, and then follow it up, more efficiently than me.
>>
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Re: [HumJanenge] M L SHARMA, CENTRAL INFO COMMISSIONER PREFERS COMPENSATION OVER PENALTY
Dear vikram ji,
Please provide complete details of 10787-10788 so that all can benefit.
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Try contempt of Court in respect of Orders in WP 10787-10788 in SC of India
>
> N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
>
> --- On Mon, 25/2/13, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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> Subject: [HumJanenge] M L SHARMA, CENTRAL INFO COMMISSIONER PREFERS COMPENSATION OVER PENALTY
> To: "RTI Act 2005 Hum Janenge Forum People's Right to Information" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, 25 February, 2013, 4:09 PM
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> PIO, Delhi Cantt. Board has not given any information to the applicant for over 100 days till date, even not attended the hearing at CIC pleading illness. FAA reportedly took on action on first appeal. Central Information Commissioner Shri M L Sharma just imposed compensation of Rs. 2000/- payable to the applicant though it was a fit case for imposition of penalty. In the past, the PIO has not replied to RTIs of other applicants.
> Penalty is deducted from the pay of the PIO while the compensation goes from govt. exchequer. Why such lienency on the erring PIOs by the CIC?
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> In such cases, what is the suitable course of action.
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Please provide complete details of 10787-10788 so that all can benefit.
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Try contempt of Court in respect of Orders in WP 10787-10788 in SC of India
>
> N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
>
> --- On Mon, 25/2/13, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] M L SHARMA, CENTRAL INFO COMMISSIONER PREFERS COMPENSATION OVER PENALTY
> To: "RTI Act 2005 Hum Janenge Forum People's Right to Information" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Monday, 25 February, 2013, 4:09 PM
>
> PIO, Delhi Cantt. Board has not given any information to the applicant for over 100 days till date, even not attended the hearing at CIC pleading illness. FAA reportedly took on action on first appeal. Central Information Commissioner Shri M L Sharma just imposed compensation of Rs. 2000/- payable to the applicant though it was a fit case for imposition of penalty. In the past, the PIO has not replied to RTIs of other applicants.
> Penalty is deducted from the pay of the PIO while the compensation goes from govt. exchequer. Why such lienency on the erring PIOs by the CIC?
>
> In such cases, what is the suitable course of action.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
Dear All
Perhapsy Dinesh Vermaji has not understood the situation.
The question is one of transparency in appointment to all positions funded by the citizen of India (or Public Exchequer). . The constitution of India does not confer any right on any one to appoint his own candidate in an arbitrary manner according to his whims and fancies. Transparently declared Processes, procedures and norms have to be followed. In this respect there is no distinction between the appointment to judiciary or civil service. Procedures may vary, but transparency is a must.
N.Natarajan
From: Dinesh Verma <dcverma06@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Vacancy of 300 HC Judges
Dear All,
Appointment as H.C./S.C.Judge is not to a Govt.post.It is an appointment to a constitutional post.This post can not filled like any other Govt.post by giving public notice.
D.C.Verma
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All, In terms of Supreme Court Judgment in Orissa Govt Vs Mamata
Mohanty case, recruitment done without inviting applications through
Public Notive giving due opportunity to all desirous / eligible is
illegal. The person so 'hand-pick manner' selected and appointed by
Govt is not even entitled to salary. That being the clear judicial
order by SC, I have requested Prime Minister to issue Public Notice
for inviting applications for recruiting High Court Judges. I am
awaiting response. A simple RTI can push the matter. Further, this is
a good material for filing PIL for judicial direction to Govt for
centralised, democratic, non-arbitrary, selection criteria based
transparent selection and appointment of HC Judges. Regards,
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