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Sunday, February 26, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Dear Mr sarbajit,

I respect all the good values/ vitues; of whichever religion, country/village/ people these may be ! immaterial.

I am beyond religion ie; follow spiritualism .

Vivekananda said ; ' It is not in our hands to be born out of religion,

but we must die out of religion , meaning thereby -go beyond religion

come along i will take u the land of God and not the mullahs; - Mr dictator/mderator sahab - it is in your hands to delete my post but not creation /getting me united in this group - learn to be tolerate enough and keep your communication channels open , dont shut it down that being easy and any body can do it having inflated ego .

you have not been able to catch what i have said above or what i meant , we not being at the same frequency, if yes tell me what it is OK?

Regards

col thakur singh

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Col Singh

As a moderator of this list I was considering deleting your post.
However, you have raised very important (NON-RTI) issues.

India is a secular state. If you dont like the term "secular" please
go and live in Pakistan / Iran where they have all the Sanskar you
need based on values and traditions of MULLAHS / MAULVIS /
AYATOLLAHS.

Sarbajit

On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, Col Thakur Singh <thakursin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Dear All,*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular'

> state, wherein we should be able to re-establish our ethos
> ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS' ,GURUS'
> upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to

> have SATVIK and meaningful LIFE.*
> *
> *
> *To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having
> respect for our values in society.*
> *
> *
> *What is the particular term , a substitute for the term ,'SECULAR ' in

> our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to follow
> our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of
> the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means

> etc.*
> *
> *
> *Your comments please,.*
> *
> *
> *regards *
> *
> *
> *Col thakur Singh*
> *9873379995*

[HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Dear Col Singh

As a moderator of this list I was considering deleting your post.
However, you have raised very important (NON-RTI) issues.

India is a secular state. If you dont like the term "secular" please
go and live in Pakistan / Iran where they have all the Sanskar you
need based on values and traditions of MULLAHS / MAULVIS /
AYATOLLAHS.

Sarbajit

On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, Col Thakur Singh <thakursin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Dear All,*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular'
> state, wherein we should be able to re-establish our ethos
> ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS' ,GURUS'
> upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to
> have SATVIK and meaningful LIFE.*
> *
> *
> *To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having
> respect for our values in society.*
> *
> *
> *What is the particular term , a substitute for the term ,'SECULAR ' in
> our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to follow
> our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of
> the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means
> etc.*
> *
> *
> *Your comments please,.*
> *
> *
> *regards *
> *
> *
> *Col thakur Singh*
> *9873379995*

Re: [HumJanenge] No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.

my appeal against company registrar mumbai which is filled in october 2011 is pending till date

viadya

--- On Sun, 26/2/12, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.
To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 26 February, 2012, 10:21 PM

Dear members

I have just had a PRIVATE chat with some people authorised to speak on
behalf of CIC (I am fighting them in a case before SC)

1) The actual outstanding pendency in the CIC is only around 2,700
cases (data wef Jan/Feb 2012)

2) The biggest culprit in terms of cases stuck is IC(Shailesh Gandhi)
who has around 800-900 cases stuck with him, some from as far back as
July 2011. In comparison CIC(SM) is up to date with a a pendency of
around 40-50 days.

3) No. 2 in terms of delay is IC(AD).

4) Whereas the CIC website reflects that around 27,000 cases are
pending, there is some computer glitch and the figure has been
multiplied by 10 due to file movement and poor dak records..

I have no comments on these statements. My dear readers are encouraged
to share their views.to the list.

Sarbajit

[HumJanenge] No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.

Dear members

I have just had a PRIVATE chat with some people authorised to speak on
behalf of CIC (I am fighting them in a case before SC)

1) The actual outstanding pendency in the CIC is only around 2,700
cases (data wef Jan/Feb 2012)

2) The biggest culprit in terms of cases stuck is IC(Shailesh Gandhi)
who has around 800-900 cases stuck with him, some from as far back as
July 2011. In comparison CIC(SM) is up to date with a a pendency of
around 40-50 days.

3) No. 2 in terms of delay is IC(AD).

4) Whereas the CIC website reflects that around 27,000 cases are
pending, there is some computer glitch and the figure has been
multiplied by 10 due to file movement and poor dak records..

I have no comments on these statements. My dear readers are encouraged
to share their views.to the list.

Sarbajit

[HumJanenge] FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Dear All,

could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular' state, wherein we should be able to re-establish our ethos ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS' ,GURUS' upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to have SATVIK and meaningful LIFE.

To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having respect for our values in society.

What is the particular term , a substitute for the term ,'SECULAR ' in our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to follow our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means etc.

Your comments please,.

regards

Col thakur Singh

9873379995

Re: [HumJanenge] Government, judiciary not interested in RTI disclosures

Dear Activists,

I can give many cases against Delhi Development Authority where no paper moves from one desk to another till money is not paid. Secondly, DDA does not implement CIC decisions for years together (since 31.03.2009). No help is there from Secretary, DDA, Joint REGISTRAR in this matter. CIC and Vice-Chairman present one and the earlier one
have been found helpless.

I shall give full details on hearing from any activist who is ready to take up this case during Budget session.

Hari Goyal
rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in

--- On Sat, 25/2/12, Manoj Kamra <manojkamra@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Manoj Kamra <manojkamra@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Government, judiciary not interested in RTI disclosures
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 25 February, 2012, 10:51 PM

Dear Sarbajit Roy ji,

       AICTE ---forget about 4.1.b , this notorous body of Mr.Kapil sibal is adamant to ignore applications.A little part of 4.1.b exposing major corruption for AICTE are------------------

                    (a) list of engg colleges recognised by AICTE------- since last five/ten years -------yearwise

                    (b) staff strength of AICTE regional/head office in last five/ten years (as same staff is handling 10-times work (10-times earning))

                    (c) last two inspection reports of engg colleges of rajasthan(or any state) --------as per its RTI reply, AICTE declared to have destroyed and retaining only last inspection report whereas as per AICTE Act, inspection is to be carried out at least once in every two years.



              Such suo-motu information especially, list of engg colleges is not being made available.



, Highcourts-------- Even CIC decisions are not being complied. How can we expect 4.1.b information.

with regards

manoj k.kamra

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members

VERY URGENT - please respond.

One of our members, who is very high up with a leading
newspaper/publishing group has kindly offered to file "at least" 1,000
RTI requests to PIOs of various CENTRAL public authorities asking for
their suo-moto disclosure of section 4(1)(b).

The most shocking cases of non-implementation will then highlighted as
a daily series spanning over 2 weeks.

I would therefore request our members to email me (or to the group)
working EMAIL IDs of each and every CPIO of those CENTRAL public
authorities they are interested in exposing.

As I know that many of our members are otherwise quite lazy arm-chair
RTI warriors, I shall regularly be posting this appeal to stimulate
them into action.

Sarbajit

[RTI INDIA] Re: [HumJanenge] Government, judiciary not interested in RTI disclosures

From: Manoj Kamra <manojkamra@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Government, judiciary not interested in RTI disclosures
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 25 February, 2012, 10:51 PM

Dear Sarbajit Roy ji,

       AICTE ---forget about 4.1.b , this notorous body of Mr.Kapil sibal is adamant to ignore applications.A little part of 4.1.b exposing major corruption for AICTE are------------------

                    (a) list of engg colleges recognised by AICTE------- since last five/ten years -------yearwise

                    (b) staff strength of AICTE regional/head office in last five/ten years (as same staff is handling 10-times work (10-times earning))

                    (c) last two inspection reports of engg colleges of rajasthan(or any state) --------as per its RTI reply, AICTE declared to have destroyed and retaining only last inspection report whereas as per AICTE Act, inspection is to be carried out at least once in every two years.



              Such suo-motu information especially, list of engg colleges is not being made available.



, Highcourts-------- Even CIC decisions are not being complied. How can we expect 4.1.b information.

with regards

manoj k.kamra

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members

VERY URGENT - please respond.

One of our members, who is very high up with a leading
newspaper/publishing group has kindly offered to file "at least" 1,000
RTI requests to PIOs of various CENTRAL public authorities asking for
their suo-moto disclosure of section 4(1)(b).

The most shocking cases of non-implementation will then highlighted as
a daily series spanning over 2 weeks.

I would therefore request our members to email me (or to the group)
working EMAIL IDs of each and every CPIO of those CENTRAL public
authorities they are interested in exposing.

As I know that many of our members are otherwise quite lazy arm-chair
RTI warriors, I shall regularly be posting this appeal to stimulate
them into action.

Sarbajit