Thursday, March 1, 2012

[HumJanenge] VICTORY: Lame excuses wont wash in RTI : P&H HC

CHANDIGARH: Punjab and Haryana high court has made it clear that
excuses like "shortage of staff", "extra work" cannot be accepted as
grounds for declining information under RTI Act.

While pronouncing the order, Justice Augustine George Masih observed,
"If such excuses are accepted, the RTI Act would become redundant and
ineffective, and would frustrate the objective for which it has been
enacted. Such internal administrative reasons cannot be treated as a
defense for not supplying information."

The ruling has come in the wake of a writ petition filed against an
order passed by the state information commission (SIC), Punjab, on
June 14, 2010. SIC had imposed a penalty of Rs 25,000 against the
state public information officer of Ludhiana Improvement Trust, Lal
Singh Tiwana, for a delay of more than five months in supplying
information to RTI applicant Gurwinderjeet Singh from Ludhiana.

Justice Masih rejected all reasons put forth by Tiwana and concurred
with those given by SIC for imposing a penalty on the information
officer for delay in information to the complainant.

In his petition filed against the SIC orders, Tiwana had stated that
Ludhiana Improvement Trust was functioning with only 40% of sanctioned
staff strength and there was a heavy rush of public for registration
of plots on the basis of original price under a scheme which was
expiring. He had argued that additional work of census was being done
by the staff, which resulted into delay in supplying information to
the complainant.

Justice Masih, however, accepted the petitioner's contention, that
although the RTI application was received in January 2010, the
petitioner-information officer had joined the trust on transfer on May
11, 2010, and therefore, was not responsible for the delay on the part
of his predecessor. Accordingly, Justice Masih held that the
petitioner-information officer has to be imposed a penalty at the rate
of Rs 250 per day for a period of 75 days, amounting to Rs 18,750.

[HumJanenge] Space department denies information to Nair

Bangalore
Space department denies information to Nair

The Department of Space (DoS) has declined to provide key documents
sought by former Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman G
Madhavan Nair to know the basis on which the government debarred him
and three other retired space scientists in January from holding
official
posts.


"Taking shelter under a specific clause of the Right to Information
(RTI) Act, the DoS withheld vital information on the reports of the
two committees that probed the Antrix-Devas deal and resulted in
action against me and three other colleagues," a disappointed Nair
said.

A week after the government blacklisted the four noted scientists,
Nair filed an application under the RTI Act, 2005 with the DoS and
ISRO, seeking details of the high level team that recommended action
against him and three other technocrats.

"Though it is mandatory under the RTI Act to furnish documents I have
asked for within 30 days of my application, I received a reply from
DoS' RTI officer Tuesday repeating all that is already in the public
domain but not the specific information, including documents and
notings pertaining to the recommendation for action against us," Nair
asserted.

The three other blacklisted scientists are former scientific secretary
A Bhaskarnarayana, ISRO's former satellite centre director KN Shankara
and former Antrix Corporation executive director KR Sridharamurthi.

Expressing inability to share the specific information, the official
wrote to Nair that as per the rule 8(1)(H) of the RTI Act, he could
not furnish the relevant documents as they pertain to investigation
and prosecution of the offenders.

"It is unfortunate that I have been denied my legitimate right to know
what offence I had committed for such an action. Instead of responding
to my specific queries on the probe reports and reasons for annulling
the Devas contract, I have been given the terms of reference under
which the two committees investigated the deal and that their reports
were on the official websites for reference," Nair pointed out.

Without naming the DoS secretary (K. Radhakrishnan), who is also
chairman of the state-run ISRO and secretary of the Space Commission,
Nair said under the guise of a particular clause and section, the
department was making mockery of the RTI Act as its response showed
someone was hiding facts, which would otherwise expose him.

"The DoS has refused to divulge information on the issues pertaining
to the Devas agreement, approval cycles and correspondence that took
place among the concerned. It's an act of cowardice on the part of the
department to suppress facts and deny justice to a former official who
also held the same post and worked in the organisation for over four
decades," Nair observed.

Asked on his next move to seek justice, Nair said he would consult
legal experts before approaching the chief information commissioner
for evidence, including specific documents, file notings and names of
those who took arbitrary decisions to cancel the Devas deal and accuse
them of wrong doing.

"Though I have better things to do, I will spare time to take the
matter to logical conclusion as we have been held guilty without being
heard to defend or explain our role in the spectrum deal," Nair added.

The 68-year rocket scientist is away at Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala
till Sunday and plans to take up the legal battle on return to the
city on Monday.

[HumJanenge] IESM's RTI "tent pegs" "C-I-C's retirement home stolen from war widows

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_presidents-4498-sq-ft-retirement-home-is-spread-over-2-lakh-sq-ft_1657085

C-I-C == Commander In Chief

President's 4,498 sq ft retirement home is spread over 2 lakh sq ft

Although the former president of India is entitled to live in a house
admeasuring not more than 4,498 sq ft, land admeasuring 2,61,000 sq ft
has been allotted for the post-retirement accommodation in Khadki of
president Pratibha Patil.

Justice for Jawans (JFJ) Right to Information (RTI) activist Anup
Awasthi and Indian Ex-servicemen Movement (IESM) found the facts
through an RTI query.

According to the reply to the RTI requisition sent to the President of
India Office, the President's Emoluments and Pension Act, 1951, and
the rules framed there under President's Pension Rule, 1962, govern
these matters.

As per the rules, "A place where Government owned accommodation is
allotted to a retired President, the size of the residence shall be
comparable to a residence allotted to a Minister in the Union Council
of Ministers and if the highest type of Government residence available
at a particular place is less in size than a residence allotted to a
Minister in the Union Council of Ministers, the highest type of
accommodation available at that place shall be allotted to the ex-
President. At present, a minister is entitled to a plinth area of the
bungalow as 4498 sq ft."

The RTI reply further states, "where suitable Government residence is
not available for allotment to a retired President, the size of the
residence to be taken on lease to be provided to a retired President
shall have a living area not exceeding 2,000 sq ft."

Col (retd) Suresh Patil of JFJ had earlier written a letter on
September 14 to the president inquiring about the possession of the
property in Khadki to which the reply received was that the land is on
lease and will remain the property of Defence Estates.

According to the reply sent by the president's secretariat, "The old
grant property is a defence land given on lease and the lease has
expired. It was resumed by the defence estate officer after following
the due procedure for use of residential premises for the president on
her retirement as per the entitlement of a former president of India."

Patil and his associates objected to even the ongoing construction on
the land. "Why are new constructions carried out in the land when
there is adequate government accommodation already available in the
cantonments? These constructions are illegal which has also resulted
to the felling of trees in the area without the permission of the
forest department," Awasthi said.

IESM, Maharashtra convenor Ravindra Pathak said that this land should
have been allotted to the war widows and to build an old age home.

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Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Please be away from pseudo secularists and work with what your consciousness demands.
Humanity should get preference over all religious instructions Some people are valued more for such deeds..

With kind regards



A.K.BHATTACHARYYA

F.I.StructE (UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT
H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127

--- On Sun, 2/26/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 11:43 PM

Dear Col Singh

I freely admit that you have raised important issues, which is why
your messages are allowed. It is equally true that we may not be on
the same frequency as presently I am also experiencing rajasik gunas..
My family is heavily from Army background (although to be fair my
marriage was conducted by an Admiral and my wife was selected by an
AVM) with very strong roots to Hindutva tradition. In fact the term
"Hindutva" was originated / coined by persons from my family.
Particularly I would direct you to read the work by Raj Narain Bose
(Grand father of Indian Nationalism) titled as "Superiority of
Hinduism over all other religions" which was based on views of one of
my ancestors. Incidentally, Mr Bose was maternal grandfather of Sri
Aurobindo.. I am enclosing a PDF summary dated 1882 for your
reference..

Actually I propose that the term "Hindutva" (as it OUGHT to be
understood but isn't) is substituted for "secularism" in the Indian
Constitution.

Sarbajit

On 2/26/12, Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr sarbajit,
>
> I respect all  the good  values/ vitues; of whichever religion,
> country/village/ people these may be !  immaterial.
> I am beyond religion ie; follow spiritualism .
>
> Vivekananda said ; ' It is not in our hands to be born out of religion,
> but  we must die out of religion , meaning thereby  -go beyond  religion
>
> come along i will take u the land of God and not the mullahs;  - Mr
>  dictator/mderator sahab - it is in your hands to delete my post but not
> creation /getting me  united  in this group - learn to be tolerate enough
> and keep your communication channels open , dont shut it down that being
> easy and any body can do it having  inflated  ego .
>
> you have not been able to catch what i have said  above or what i meant ,
> we not being at the same frequency, if yes tell me what it is   OK?
>
> Regards
>
> col thakur singh
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Col Singh
>>
>> As a moderator of this list I was considering deleting your post.
>> However, you have raised very important (NON-RTI) issues.
>>
>> India is a secular state. If you dont like the term "secular" please
>> go and live in Pakistan / Iran where they have all the Sanskar you
>> need based on values and traditions of MULLAHS / MAULVIS /
>> AYATOLLAHS.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, Col Thakur Singh <thakursin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > *Dear All,*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular'
>> > state, wherein  we should be able to re-establish our ethos
>> > ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS'  ,GURUS'
>> > upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to
>> > have SATVIK  and meaningful LIFE.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having
>> > respect for our values in society.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *What is the particular term  , a substitute for the term  ,'SECULAR '
>> > in
>> > our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to
>> follow
>> > our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of
>> > the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means
>> > etc.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Your comments please,.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *regards *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Col thakur Singh*
>> > *9873379995*
>

Re: [HumJanenge] No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.

RTI is toothless act and it is strange what you expect from it. Best thing is to approach court.

Regards,
Rajeev Yadav,
National President,
(B.Sc., M.B.A., L.L.B., P.G.D. Human Rights),
Adhikaar the rights path,
+919811242471.
www.adhikaar.in
.

--- On Mon, 27/2/12, Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 27 February, 2012, 4:52 AM

I had filed a complaint in august 2010 related to no reply from
petroleum ministry related to information demanded on section 4. when
i filed rti as to ask the action taken, it was decided on feb 15 with
issuance of notice. many of the cases filed by in may 2011 (IC-SS) are
yet to be heard.
i had filed many cases in feb 2011 related to bsnl (MLS). all except
one are yet to be heard.
I had filed many cases related to income tax department, CBDT in
november 2011. all are yet to be heard.
even there is no mention on the cic website about cases filed against
bsnl, income tax

On 2/26/12, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear members
>
> I have just had a PRIVATE chat with some people authorised to speak on
> behalf of CIC (I am fighting them in a case before SC)
>
> 1) The actual outstanding pendency in the CIC is only around 2,700
> cases (data wef Jan/Feb 2012)
>
> 2) The biggest culprit in terms of cases stuck is IC(Shailesh Gandhi)
> who has around 800-900 cases stuck with him, some from as far back as
> July 2011. In comparison CIC(SM) is up to date with a a pendency of
> around 40-50 days.
>
> 3) No. 2 in terms of delay is IC(AD).
>
> 4) Whereas the CIC website reflects that around 27,000 cases are
> pending, there is some computer glitch and the figure has been
> multiplied by 10 due to file movement and poor dak records..
>
> I have no comments on these statements. My dear readers are encouraged
> to  share their views.to the list.
>
> Sarbajit


--
Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
1778, Sector 14, Hisar-125001, INDIA
Phone: 91-99929-31181

Re: [HumJanenge] FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Dear Sir

Unfortunately MODERN SCIENTIFIC METHODS do not bear out hypothesis
like "Aryan Invasion Theory" etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_Archaeogenetics_of_South_Asia
I direct your attention to the last statement therein

"The genetic affinities of both the ancestry components are
incompatible with substantial gene flow into the region during Max
Mueller's purported Indo-Aryan invasion 3,500 years ago"

It is foreigners like him who have diluted our history, religion and
culture with their pseudo-knowledge of India's "sacred verses".

Sarbajit


On 2/29/12, mmp kala <mmp_kala@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> I disagree that Rig Veda states that Hindus came from Persia; the book
> contains no history but is a collection of RICHAs (verses) composed by
> various sages and passed on to the next generation through word of mouth
> (SHRUTIs) of their disciples and followers (there was possibly no script and
> the Richas had to be pronounced exactly in the same manner as that
> prescribed by the composer else one was to be consigned to hell after
> death). It was Ved Vyas and his disciples who compiled and wrote down the
> Vedas.
>
> The historians believe that the first immigration to India was from Central
> Asia and Afghanistan. The Aryans came via the Khaibar Pass and settled down
> in Indo-Gangetic plains.. Subsequently the Sumerians (Aryans in Persia)
> came via the Bolan Pass and settled in Baluchistan, Sind, Rajasthan and
> Central India. The natives were few and could not fight the new comers who
> had horse, bow and arrows and a well organized social structure. They would
> therefore resort to attack by night and were called nishachar. In Sanskrit,
> Dasyu is other word for the enemy, and those of them who were defeated and
> captured were called Daas or slaves. The Aryans ushered education and
> knowledge,; their way of life was soon accepted in South India also.
>
> Yes, Hinduism encompasses the various ways of life system in vogue amongst
> the Aryans who initially worshiped all that was super natural. It was a way
> of life of the Aryans which was called Hinduism much later; initially there
> were the Aryas and the Anaryas in India.
>
> Col MMP Kala.
>
> --- On Tue, 28/2/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE
> To: "Surendera M. Bhanot" <bhanot1952@gmail.com>, "humjanenge"
> <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012, 11:02 PM
>
> Dear Surendra,
>
> The Sanskrit term Sindhu refers to the river Indus (pronounced "In-doos")
>
> The people from Persia (which includes Iran) referred to people on the
> other side of the river as Hindoos, just as some Maharashtrians living
> on one side of a certain mountain range refer to those on the other
> side as "ghatis".
>
> In any case for 1000's of years now it is quite clear who the Hindoos
> are ... ARYANS who came running across the Indus river after being
> defeated by the PERSIANS. The native people of India are NOT Hindus,
> but have had "Hinduism" IMPOSED on them. All this is clearly explained
> in the Rig Veda (which is the only authentic Veda - the rest either
> having being considerably corrupted over time or considerably
> fabricated). In fact the losing Aryans call their "Gods" as "Devas"
> and their Devils as "Asura". Whereas the victorious Persians call
> their God as "Ahura" and their devils as "DEVils". (BTW, I am not
> saying all this or making it up, it is published by the
> Ethnographer-General of the Govt of India in 1912.)
>
> So it is immaterial if Hinduism is tainted or not, or the language is
> tainted or not. IT is what is accepted by the majority people of this
> country,if you dont like it REFORM IT or emigrate to Pakistan.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 2/28/12, Surendera M. Bhanot <bhanot1952@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> Hindu is a tainted name came from the Sindhu, meaning people living in the
>> Sidhu Ghati. This name was invented by the aranians. So there is no
>> mythological history of the name Hindu. Its like the naming a new-born.
>> Nobody names himself. Its the others who mane you to recognise you.
>> Sarabjit is not the name you gave to yourself. It was bestowed on you by
>> your nears and dears.
>