Thanks, Dr. Sandeep ji, for these good decisions. I understand that u r an advocate, kindly inform. . --- On Wed, 29/6/11, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
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Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Re: [HumJanenge] good judgements on applicability of rti act to private bodies
Re: [HumJanenge] What clinched the Govt's decision to exempt CBI under Sec 24 ?
As I mentioned before, I do not have a copy of the WP.
RTIwanted
From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] What clinched the Govt's decision to exempt CBI under Sec 24 ?
| . . I request Shri C J Karira to provide a copy of the same to Mr Parikh and the pros and cons for filing such petitin at Delhi HC should be considered.. |
[HumJanenge] RTI ASSISTANCE
Dear Friends,
In response to an RTI query for a copy of Law Ministry's report on the status of IFCI Ltd., Ministry of Finance has replied as "legal opinion has been obtained from Law Ministry on status of IFCI. However, as the issue is under examination of Committee on privileges of Parliament, hence information cannot be shared at this stage in terms of section 8 (c) of RTI Act, 2005" I may mention that report on the status is different issue and the issue before the Privileges Committee is a complaint of one of the Members of Parliament against alleged mis-behaviour of an executive of IFCI.
Have any of you received a copy of Government communication relating to 2G when the case is pending before PAC and JPC. If so, kindly favour with with a copy thereof or atleast advice me the letter no., date, subject matter and the department/ministry from who the same has been received so that I can substantiae my case in the first appeal. Copy of the communication can be mailed after scanning
Your early response will help me to finalise my first appeal well within time.
with regards
n k handa
09868338030
Re: [HumJanenge] How to send notice under Consumer Protection act in the event of non receipt of information from PIO/AA
What does one do after sending this notice?
On 29-Jun-2011, at 8:30 AM, sandeep kumar wrote:
> <notice under CPA.doc>
[HumJanenge] Re: [scw] Re: [aryasamajonline] Please do not spam this group - need to focus on objective n how to achieve them
Dear all
HERE IS ONE VIEW OF ANTI CORRUPTION MOVEMENT .
regards
chauhan
----- Original Message -----From: ramans shrimanCc: stop-corruption-worldwide@googlegroups.com ; humjanenge@googlegroups.com ; vhpmedia2@gmail.com ; Bjp Itcell ; Shiv Sena ; Hindu media monitoring Chennai ; hindujagrutiSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: [scw] Re: [aryasamajonline] Please do not spam this group - need to focus on objective n how to achieve them--in which world do u live ravindra thakur ji ? the option has been discussed on this column few times already. It is not just the question of removing this govt. that also is not possible w/o a bigger unity. What to do after removing this govt.? is another question.
how to bring a nationalist govt. back in power? That is also connected with unity . how to make stringent law. That is also connected to unity . therefore bigger unity is pre –requisite to any action . the best peaceful option is to bring the hindufaction dharma gurus on one platform in the forefront . some nationalists hv to convince them to do so. coz at their own they are not thinking so. but by convincing they will. they can bring maximum Hindus aryas at one platform. They can ask some borderline nationalist parties to divorce this desh drohi government and topple it. Then bring a full nationalist govt. in power which can declare it as Hindu or arya rashtra, change constitution , change laws, force foreign govts to return the black money, close loop holes in the laws n procedures to stop swindle taxpayers money, re-define secularism , minority , rights of foreign religions in india based on global n local norms and so on…………….. the problem is not antonia meno alias sonia, or john paul alias rahul or mery robert alias priyanka or muslims or christians or foreign interference , problem is the hindu disunity n fragmentation. if this is overcome then the other problems or problem makers will go with the wind.
From: "devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com" <devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com>
To: ramans shriman <msb931@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 9:55:39 AM
Subject: Re: [aryasamajonline] Please do not spam this group - need to focus on objective n how to achieve them
The present government has about three more years to go before the next elections are held. The present government can go if it resigns and calls new elections or if it looses a no confidence vote in Parliament. There is another alternative and that is to create too much chaos and civil unrest so as to make the country ungovernable.Which option do you have in mindThe other question is who do you think will replace this government and what guarantee is there that the replacement administration would be totally honest or even less corrupt?
From: ramans shriman <msb931@yahoo.com>
To: hindujagruti <hindu.jagruti@gmail.com>; stop-corruption-worldwide@googlegroups.com; desiyatra@googlegroups.com; humjanenge@googlegroups.com; Arya Samaj Online <aryasamajonline@yahoogroups.com>; drtogadia@gmail.com
Cc: Hindu media monitoring Chennai <hindumediamonitoringchennai@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June, 2011 6:18:19
Subject: [aryasamajonline] Please do not spam this group - need to focus on objective n how to achieve them
From: bhagavaandaas tyaagi <bhagavaandaas@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 8:06:23 AM
Subject: Fw: [scw] Please do not spam this group - need to have constructive discussion
"At this stage we need only one focus to stop corruption and the present Government must go. We all know the reasons, history, who is corrupt, what reasons, etc. Let us concentrate on one focus. Stop writing Blogs, explanations, logic etc now. Let us achieve the Goal and then we will have enough time to present the articles, thoughts, etc."----- I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS IDEA 100 % ----- WE ALL SHOULD WORK ON THIS ONLY AT PRESENT ----- " to i- bring back national wealth ii-punish desh drohis iii-stop corruption for future and iv-the present Government must go"
From: Ramesh Shah <ramesh@ekalvidya.org>
To: Nitin Naresh <nitin@nitinnaresh.com>
Cc: Save India From Corruption <contact@saveindiafromcorruption.org>; stop-corruption-worldwide@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 7:51:01 PM
Subject: Re: [scw] Please do not spam this group - need to have constructive discussion
Dear All,Namskar.At this stage we need only one focus to stop corruption and the present Government must go. We all know the reasons, history, who is corrupt, what reasons, etc. Let us concentrate on one focus. Stop writing Blogs, explanations, logic etc now. Let us achieve the Goal and then we will have enough time to present the articles, thoughts, etc.I respect this group very much but honestly delete most of the emails.Namaste.Ramesh shah--
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Nitin Naresh <nitin@nitinnaresh.com> wrote:
Dear Group Members
I am a member of your group since last one week and I really like the idea and concept of this group. But are we only sharing the articles or also taking the actions against it.
Well just based on your group and few other groups in this league, me and my friends have started a website www.inquilaab.org which is a networking portal for exchange of ideas along with forums, your personal blogs of activist, article sections where you can post your articles and can really be viewed when ever you want without any repetitions in the mailing list.
I am sure you will enjoy the website, you are heartedly invited to join us on the website at www.inquilaab.org
with warm regards
Nitin Naresh--
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Save India From Corruption <contact@saveindiafromcorruption.org> wrote:
Kindly do not spam this group with hundreds of emails and articles, many times those that are already circulated. If you need to send several articles, please put them in one email with an index and send.Many people are expressing concern the direction this group is going. While nationalist discussions are encouraged, do NOT make this into a religious discussion. Corruption affects all Indians and there are good and bad elements in all groups or religions. There are truly nationalists from all religions. Dr. Quraishi, the present Election Commissioner is one of the brightest examples today. Let us not get carried away and fall prey into the games of the ethically and morally bankrupt people who rule India today.--From now onwards, if we receive same email id sending several articles spamming the group, we have no choice than to remove them.Save India From Corruption
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Re: [HumJanenge] What clinched the Govt's decision to exempt CBI under Sec 24 ?
From Economic Times, 29.6.2011, Edit Page. Face Off Should the CBI Come Under the Purview of RTI  JOGINDER SINGH FORMER DIRECTOR CBI Keeping it Outside RTI is the Right Move The Madras High Court has issued a notice,to the Union government on a public interest litigation seeking to declare a recent notification exempting Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) from the purview of Right to Information Act as ultra vires.The position is,that CBI is not only an investigating agency,but also collects information about the corrupt practices and other violations.Some say that it is a retrograde step and the CBI should not be out of the purview of Right to Information Act.It is due to a mistaken impression,as the Right to Information is not an act to combat corruption and malpractices either in the government or in the society.Each law passed by Parliament has a specific purpose.It would be interesting for the agitators,to find out as to how many cases have been registered against corruption and other laws after getting information under RTI.Investigation of cases is done,as per the procedure laid down in the Criminal Procedure Code,within the parameters prescribed by the Indian Evidence Act.Investigation is never done,in the purview of the pubic or media glare.During investigation,CBI checks and cross-checks the facts stated by the witnesses or the alleged accused,before coming to any conclusion about his guilt or otherwise.It can also involve tests like DNA or referring the matter to Forensic Science Laboratory.Not only during the investigation a full picture of any crime is to be constructed,but also credible evidence gathered to prove that a crime has been committed.The so-called activists confuse between a moral wrong and a legal violation of law.In any case,CBI files a charge-sheet,within normally 60 to 90 days.Once the case goes to the court,each charged person is given a complete set of evidence,including the statement of witnesses,scientific evidence,if any,and other complete papers.So all papers of investigation come under the public domain and anybody can get papers from the court.If any new facts are brought out by the so-called activists,a reinvestigation can always be done.The decision taken to save the CBI from busy-bodies who have nothing to do but seek publicity is a right one.  NIKHIL DEY RTI ACTIVIST Decision to Keep it Out is Unjustified The decision to exempt the CBI from the provisions of the RTI Act are completely unjustified.The decision will harm the CBI as well as the RTI Act.In fact,all institutions in the country should be under the purview of the RTI Act.In any case,the exemption for intelligence and security agencies contained under section 24 of the Act cannot apply to an investigating agency.The CBI might carry out some work that requires gathering of intelligence,and it may well investigate many sensitive cases related to security of the state.However,the RTI Act contains adequate safeguards that can protect it from divulging sensitive information.Section 8 of the RTI Act exempts the disclosure of information that would prejudicially affect the security of the state,friendly relations with foreign countries,law and order,safety of an informer,investigation of a crime,etc.There is a fundamental difference between exempting certain classes of information and providing a blanket exemption to the whole agency.By exempting the agency,it is being freed from the standards of transparency and accountability borne out of scrutiny from the citizen.There are many cases the CBI investigates where it needs to work with ordinary citizens in an atmosphere of openness and mutual trust.The CBI enquiry ordered by the Supreme Court of India into corruption in six districts in Orissa is a case in point.In a scenario of poor credibility of investigating agencies,the CBI is still the first one called to investigate matters of grand corruption.As the former director of the CBI who worked under the RTI regime,Vijay Shankar,has said,the RTI will help the CBI perform better and with more credibility.At a time when the government is struggling to show that it can create an effective anti-corruption agency,this move will irreparably damage its own credibility.Finally,this misinterpretation of an intelligence and security agency could open the floodgates to a spate of departments wanting to claim exemption from the RTI.It will be the end of the capacity of the RTI Act to enforce transparency and ensure that accountability is to the people of the country.The government must revoke this decision. --- On Tue, 28/6/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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Tuesday, June 28, 2011
[HumJanenge] good judgements on applicability of rti act to private bodies
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