Sunday, November 27, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD

The Governor of Reserve Bank of India promised to pay the amount. He will keep the promise. He will pay  you the amount by crediting your bank account with equal amount once you deposit the note in bank.



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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD
 

Dear Sarbajit

 

I am very much surprised to receive your above letter written to Governor and other persons, whereby you told that amount should be paid to you, as RBI has promised to pay you, its right so they can exchange your note from new notes, which are valid currency, however you have mentioned that you don't want to show/ provide your identity, which has doubt about your intension,

 

Whether you wish to support the persons, who are having black money, why you are raising such issue that you will not provide your identification ? r u afraid or you are having black money ?

 

When you are doing great work through various issues, however we not agree with you in this move, why you wish to raise such issue, that will give strength to the persons, who are having black money ? I am surprised that you are writing such letters ( now we are suspicious about your intentions) towards Indian Fight Corruption   campaign

 

Why are you afraid to give your identity, when it is genuine and you earned it though genuine means.

 

Hope you will circulate this mail to everyone.

 

Thanks with Best Regards

 

CA Chitranjan Bharadia

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Subject: [IAC#RG] Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD

 

To:

1) The Governor, Reserve Bank of India

 

2) The Secretary, Department of Financial Services (GOI),

3) Chief Minister of Delhi

 

Dear Sirs

Sub: Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD

 

I am informed that the Govt of India on 8 November 2016 has notified that OHD notes of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1,000 are withdrawn and shall not be legal tender w.e.f midnight between 08.11.2016 and 09.11.2016.

The term "legal tender" essentially means "coins or banknotes that must be accepted if offered in payment of a debt"

However, each of the withdrawn note carries the assurance of the Reserve Bank of India, through its Governors, that "I promise to pay the bearer the sum of Five Hundred Rupees". or "I promise to pay the bearer the sum of One Thousand Rupees".

I am holding some OHD note of Rs. 500 and also some OHD notes of Rs. 1000.

I wish to be immediately paid in sum against these notes since I no longer have faith in currency notes issued by RBI and I am also not at all prepared to accept in exchange the new promissory notes being issued by RBI which are presently worthless to me and which contain an unacceptable political slogan.

Furthermore, since these OHD notes with me are genuine bearer notes issued by Governor RBI and withdrawn from ATMs / counters of PSU Banks, I am not prepared to provide / show any identification to exchange them since these are bearer notes.


Accordingly, kindly inform me when, where and how I can immediately exchange my aforesaid OHD notes for their sum.

NB: This communication is sent in larger public interest of persons who insist on financial inclusion in banking system

 

sincerely



Er. Sarbajit Roy

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Re: [IAC#RG] Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000OHD

Mr Rangarajan, Please don't try to use the same trick which every BJP persons are trying to seal those airing views such as that of Mr Sarbajith as antinational. Mr Sarbajith has brought out issues so clearly but no body is in a position to establish that he is wrong and only way to save the face seams to be calling him as anti national. 
After reading different views I'm able to understand that people who are talking the language of the government are those who are likely to having lot of black money. BJP is mostly of businessmen and highly placed people who normally has lot of Black money. They are probably afraid that if they speak against government they may be raided or corruption /black money cases will be framed against them. This is not fair if such people go Scot free. Khejriwal and Mamtha and for that matter Mr Sarbajit are bold and must be because they don't have any thing to hide. See all others they keep their stand fluid always. I'm not coming to any conclusion but it is a point to be pondered on seriously. Mr Rangarajan let us discuss logically.


On Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:47 PM, Rangarajan Mathre <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


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Dear Sarbajit Roy,
If you say you have no faith in the currency issued by Govt of India, which means you have no allegiance to Constitution of India and so unfit to be an Indian citizen - It is better you migrate out of India where you have faith in the currency of that country.
warm regards / rangarajan 


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Subject: [IAC#RG] Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD

To:
1) The Governor, Reserve Bank of India

2) The Secretary, Department of Financial Services (GOI),

3) Chief Minister of Delhi

Dear Sirs

Sub: Public Query on Demonetisation of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1000 OHD

I am informed that the Govt of India on 8 November 2016 has notified that OHD notes of Rs. 500 and Rs. 1,000 are withdrawn and shall not be legal tender w.e.f midnight between 08.11.2016 and 09.11.2016.

The term "legal tender" essentially means "coins or banknotes that must be accepted if offered in payment of a debt"

However, each of the withdrawn note carries the assurance of the Reserve Bank of India, through its Governors, that "I promise to pay the bearer the sum of Five Hundred Rupees". or "I promise to pay the bearer the sum of One Thousand Rupees".

I am holding some OHD note of Rs. 500 and also some OHD notes of Rs. 1000.

I wish to be immediately paid in sum against these notes since I no longer have faith in currency notes issued by RBI and I am also not at all prepared to accept in exchange the new promissory notes being issued by RBI which are presently worthless to me and which contain an unacceptable political slogan.

Furthermore, since these OHD notes with me are genuine bearer notes issued by Governor RBI and withdrawn from ATMs / counters of PSU Banks, I am not prepared to provide / show any identification to exchange them since these are bearer notes.

Accordingly, kindly inform me when, where and how I can immediately exchange my aforesaid OHD notes for their sum.

NB: This communication is sent in larger public interest of persons who insist on financial inclusion in banking system

sincerely




Er. Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
INDIA FIGHTS CORRUPTION
Convenor
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Re: [IAC#RG] Two major demonetisation reports today in The Citizen

Has anyone looked into the possibility of #demonetisation being used as a decoy for a bank bailout ?.  The timing, haste and total lack of planning makes it look like they had to get the banks recapitalized within the shortest possible time or else risk a systematic failure.  

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com> wrote:

Renowned economist Prabhat Patnaik, in his latest article on #demonetisation, explains why "demonetization, far from being an attack on the "black economy", would in effect turn out to be an attack on the vulnerable "informal" segment of the "white economy.""






How has the world responded to India's #demonetisation measure?


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Re: [IAC#RG] Two major demonetisation reports today in The Citizen

I fully agree with you. Further the informal economy in India is only 13% as against 30% in China.

On 27 Nov 2016 14:27, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:

The informal economy is termed as ' black economy' and is attacked in the process. The people planning it are well paid through cheque by GOI. They do not understand the relevance and importance of this informal economy. As a typical bureaucratic mindset, they just want everything under their control. Aadhar card scheme is also result of such mindset.
The west was perplexed in 2008 when they found that India was immune to economic depression the world was going through. .
This resilience in our economy was due to vast presence of informal economy.
The West  badly wanted India to formalize entire economy as it would, then, come under international control.


On Nov 24, 2016 10:34 PM, "Anand Gangoli" <anandgangoli22@gmail.com> wrote:
I think those who oppose demonetization have an axe to grind​. Demonetization has hit those  with black money the hardest, and also terrorists and separatists. There is no stone throwing in Srinagar after demonetization. Just shows- they were throwing stones for money, not because they thought they were oppressed. Otherwise they would still have been throwing stones.And sadly, they were bring paid mostly in counterfeits.
 
To find reasons to support black economy one needs extremely convoluted reasoning, which is well beyond me.
Jai Hind 
 
Anand S Gangoli

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com> wrote:

Renowned economist Prabhat Patnaik, in his latest article on #demonetisation, explains why "demonetization, far from being an attack on the “black economy”, would in effect turn out to be an attack on the vulnerable “informal” segment of the “white economy.""

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/9263/Demonetisation-The-Lies-The-Government-Weaves-As-It-Abandons-Reason





How has the world responded to India's #demonetisation measure?

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/9260/Worst-Mistake-of-PM-Modis-Career-World-Media-and-Economists-Decry-Demonetisation-Havoc-in-India

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Re: [IAC#RG] My Open Letter to Aam AAdmi Party: Show the Donations or Face Satyagraha

Thnx to all who keep us politically aware and alert.
Regards.


On 27 Nov 2016 10:15, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Munish

All of you were very clearly warned in 2012 against joining AAP. However, for your own collective opportunism you people went along with Arvind knowing his secretive / authoritarian style (which he bases on Indira Gandhi at the height of the Emergency), his habitual mode of playing fast and loose with the truth etc.

For instance, you knew very well that in 2012 he was a puppet in hands of Congress and fully dependent on people like Ashish Talwar who are fully steeped in Congress culture.

So it is better to stop shedding these crocodile tears over AAP. The better option for you and your friends is to join Yogendra Yadav's group who are saying much the same thing  - but who won't go very far in politics.

Lastly, why are you appealing to that reprobate Anna Hazare ? Do you really think he is honest and clean given his extensive history of accepting massive payments from scamsters and foreigners for promoting dubious causes ? Anna Hazare is quite obviously a 'bhaade ka tattu' (pony for hire) and his own trusts account books are in a much worse state than Arvind Kejriwal's and unpublished on website since 2010. For instance where is the account of the 1 crore SMS cards (priced at Rs. 25 each) which Anna's close aide Datta Awari ordered (through Kiran Bedi) from Netcore in 2012 and which used IAC's name and logos without permission to cheat the ordinary people and encash our goodwill ?

Sarbajit


On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Dr. Munish Raizada <pedia333@gmail.com> wrote:
Today on November 26- the Foundation Day of Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) - I urge all to ask a question: Was transparent Online Donations Not the BIGGEST reason that AAP was the mascot of Clean Politics?
Please spare a minute and read my OPEN LETTER to Aam Aadmi Party, to restore the same transparency:

http://munishraizada.in/open-letter-to-kejriwal-satyagraha-if-donation-list-party-funding-details-not-made-public-by-december-3-2016/


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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Bharat Bandh on 28th will please black money holders

Interesting discussion.
Wonder if, as suggested the successful private companies as listed in the abv post are nationalized..they will be redundant in no time.

So, solution lies in wealth creation and thus productivity.
As long as they are paying their taxes this grudge against the wealthy is not justified.

Though this doesn't hve a direct link, read in paper that Sh Fidel Castro is no more.Passing away of an era in world history.
Ofcourse economists here would know more abt how markets regather momentum.
Personally, one thinks an occasional cleansing of eco is a good idea.
May all work and prosper.
Regards.


On 27 Nov 2016 12:34, "Raminder Singh" <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
Venkatraman

Your information is also incorrect, only some irrelevant opposition parties like Left had called for bandh. There is no opposition bandh called on 28 Nov.

Now millions of Indians are wasting time in bank cues without getting their money.  Where has all their money gone ?

And are you speaking for the deprived or for the 1% capitalists like Mukesh Ambani who own / control 50% of India's wealth in clear violation of constitutional principles against 'The State working to prevent concentration of wealth and means of production in a few hands, and try to ensure that ownership and control of the material resources is distributed to best serve the common good'.

These 1% people (mostly banias) have achieved their wealth only through crony capitalism, systematic rigging of state institutions like public sector banks, stock and commodity exchanges, and organised manipulation/corruption of state regulatory agencies. The governments have always been in the control of such people.

What prevents the bania Modi from nationalising all companies owned by his 1% close bania friends like Ambanis, Adanis,Mittals, Jindals, Ruias etc. and redistributing their ill-gotten wealth to the poor of India they had cheated ?

Why IAC is allowing such BJP propaganda to be spread on their mailing list ?

R.S. Pabbi

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

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                                             Bharat Bandh on 28th will please black money holders

Bharat bandh called by the opposition political parties on 28th November to protest against demonetisation steps of Modi government will certainly please the black money holders and corrupt persons in the country.
1% of the Indian population hold 58% of the wealth in the country. Most of these people amassed huge black money by evasion of tax and adopting unethical business practices. Most of the private educational institutions and hospitals hold huge black money apart from other agencies like real estate builders. Demonetisation is hitting them hard.

All these people are scared that unstoppable Modi government will expose them and make them behave and seize the black money kept in various forms.

These black money holders and opposition political parties want Modi to be defeated and not black money to be wiped out.

People in the lower income group realise the objective of the demonetisation and are willing to wait for the positive results  and put up with the temporary difficulties. Unfortunately, their views are not highlighted in the media.

But, the opposition political parties do not care that common man including those in the lower income group who are the daily wage earners will suffer due to bharat bandh.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Two major demonetisation reports today in The Citizen

The informal economy is termed as ' black economy' and is attacked in the process. The people planning it are well paid through cheque by GOI. They do not understand the relevance and importance of this informal economy. As a typical bureaucratic mindset, they just want everything under their control. Aadhar card scheme is also result of such mindset.
The west was perplexed in 2008 when they found that India was immune to economic depression the world was going through. .
This resilience in our economy was due to vast presence of informal economy.
The West  badly wanted India to formalize entire economy as it would, then, come under international control.


On Nov 24, 2016 10:34 PM, "Anand Gangoli" <anandgangoli22@gmail.com> wrote:
I think those who oppose demonetization have an axe to grind​. Demonetization has hit those  with black money the hardest, and also terrorists and separatists. There is no stone throwing in Srinagar after demonetization. Just shows- they were throwing stones for money, not because they thought they were oppressed. Otherwise they would still have been throwing stones.And sadly, they were bring paid mostly in counterfeits.
 
To find reasons to support black economy one needs extremely convoluted reasoning, which is well beyond me.
Jai Hind 
 
Anand S Gangoli

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com> wrote:

Renowned economist Prabhat Patnaik, in his latest article on #demonetisation, explains why "demonetization, far from being an attack on the "black economy", would in effect turn out to be an attack on the vulnerable "informal" segment of the "white economy.""

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/9263/Demonetisation-The-Lies-The-Government-Weaves-As-It-Abandons-Reason





How has the world responded to India's #demonetisation measure?

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/9260/Worst-Mistake-of-PM-Modis-Career-World-Media-and-Economists-Decry-Demonetisation-Havoc-in-India

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