Dear Ajay
I am delighted that you have frankly revealed your thoughts. Every sensible and patriotic citizen of India feels as you do. But I would like to share this with you.
1) Democracy is not "supported" by pillars. These so-called pillars are the mental bars which serve to cage free roaming Tigers. If your mind recognises and accepts these bars then you have been caged / tamed.
2) If you are a Karmayogi, you will follow Vivekananda'
(NB: unfortunately the terms "Kriyayogi" and "Karmayogi" is widely distorted and misunderstood among common people.)
3) It is defeatist to say that 1 "ordinary" person can achieve nothing. Our whole existence is based on laws of (what we call) quantum physics, Our best scientific brains are willing to devote their lives, energies, moneys to searching for that 1 elusive God Particle which emerges when common particles are smashed together. Karmayogis are the conformist particles - Kriyayogis the independent God Particles which emerge out of chaos.
4) All humans are corrupt, their institutions more so. Today you say Congress is corrupt, yesterday we said BJP is corrupt, we all know that the jokers of 3rd front are the most inept at being corrupt. By accepting these institutions - Govt, Courts, parties etc you are voluntarily surrendering your individuality and becoming Karmayogi.
5) The examples you have given about Govt being responsible for disasters like Bhopal, Nuclear Plant, Jaipur etc are irrelevant - most of them are not caused by Govt. Just as crimes are not caused by Police. The job of Govt is to SUBSEQUENTLY pull the curtain over these little irritants so that good little Karmayogic citizens forget all about it in a few days and continue with daily life. Karmayogis are the sheep, chickens, stalks of wheat which are consumed daily (in huge quantities) by the impersonal (Rakshas) State.
6) If the PM is holidaying abroad - let him go there. He doesn't run this Govt. First of all we must all, all of us understand why we are so interested in Govt. Suppose one fine day Ajay Marathe wakes up and says I will have hardly anything to do with Govt, I wont pay my taxes (legally), I have no use/need for your corrupt Police, your dishonest courts, your dirty hospitals, your pathetic schools, your potholed roads etc. Then he will say, I wont read your propaganda newspapers or view your mind-numbing TV channels. After that he will say I wont contribute the information I get in RTI to anyone untrustworthy especially the media.
Once you reach this level - you will know how to use RTI very effectively to save your world and the environment.
Sarbajit
--- In rti_india@yahoogrou
>
> Sarabjit ji,
>
> 1)The letter by the Indian Ambassador to US is dated May 12, 2009. But if the info is available in private channels, we will not know abt it.
>
> 2) I feel all the four pillars of our democracy are corroded / rusted & crumbling & an ordinary citizen like me, cannot do much. In my view, the ruling party has become extremely arrogant & opposition almost not existing, they do not at all care about ordinary citizens, environment, animals of our country. They are leading the country towards man made disasters ( in terms of financial, food, environmental etc.)
>
> (Pl. take into account the following :-
> Environmental accidents:
>
> Jaipur Fire how much CO / Co2 was emitted in short span of about a week
>
> Bhopal Gas Leak- Victims still suffering, soil/ water still contaminated
>
> Nuclear leak in drinking water our Oxford UK educated PM calls it a minor incident.
>
> Oil spill at Paradeep Media keeping very very quite about it
>
> Others
>
> Our PM is preferring foreign tours( US , Caribbean & Russia, Copenhagen) to facing the winter session in parliament.
>
> Satyam, Sh. Madhu Koda, NTPC scandal, Reddy brothers mining activity in AP all show an pot of control country.
>
> Huge pending cases in our courts- As per Justice Bilal Nazki CJ Orrisa HC- Criminals since 1988 are still pending in the Bombay high court as no judge is interested in reading the case.
>
> SC judges unanimously deciding to challenge the decision of the high court of Delhai regarding their assets )
>
> A lot of people I have been talking to are having a feeling we are living under a kind of foreign rule , utterly insensitive to the needs of ordinary people. They are already talking about having alternate government in the current legal framework!
>
>
> Unfortunately it is not in my nature to give up.
>
> My further course of action is to pass on this info to as many people as I can, who know some of these American & Indian companies( in fact already done that.) These people are planning to put RTI queries to Indian railways, Mahrashtra Electricity board, Indian Raliways to see if they can get the names of the individuals involved. One of my friends is trying to get the issue of Maharashtra Electricity Board raised in the current winter session of Maharashtra vidhan parishad/ write to CVC about it. Also planning to pass it on to my friends in US to see if they can get more info about the same using local laws(FOI?).
>
> I am waiting for a complete reply to my RTI application , ie similar feedback/ letters recd by Indian officials being bribed by foreign firms, countries, written and / or forwarded by Indian Embassy officials in other countries. This part of my application has been forwarded to Ministry of external affairs by the PMO.
>
> Once I get that I will decide my further course of action.
>
> 3) If Infosys is doing it , it is wrong on their part. This will not work on a long term basis. We have population we are not able to sustain & all of us will have to suffer the consequences for it.
>
>
> --- In rti_india@yahoogrou
> >
> > Dear Ajay
> >
> > 1) This is a very old matter. People who track FCPA have been privy to all this for more than 2 years. R&AW knew about this as far back as 2006 when some cases were first filed before SEC.
> >
> > 2) Now having got this info, what do you plan to do with it? Or rather what CAN you do with it !
> >
> > 3) Let me put it to you another way. There is a big Indian Company (say Infosys) which executes contracts overseas. Many thousands of jobs are dependent back in India on their securing foreign Govt contracts. These contracts can only be got by bribing foreigners. What would Mr Narayan Murthy (the great God of RTI touts) do ? Do you now realise why they finance silly little RTI activists to keep their mouth shut and ensure that we don't have laws like FCPA in India.
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> > --- In rti_india@yahoogrou
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Subject: Letter to Prime Minister's Office by Ambassador of India in
> > > US:--Illegal Payments made by US companies to officials in India to
> > > further their interests in India.
> > >
> > > You must have read about the subject in press. I am attaching the
> > > scanned copy of the two page letter( summary) for yr info. ( I have
> > > obtained the entire letter with attachments using RTI)
> > >
> > > The Companies involved are
> > >
> > > Dow Chemicals US ---- India's Central Insecticides Board / De-Nocil
> > > Crop protection
> > >
> > > Control Companies INC USA ---- Maharashtra State Electricity Board
> > >
> > > York International Corp ---- Indian Navy
> > >
> > > Westinghouse Air Brake Technologies Corp --- Indian railways
> > >
> > > The file is uploaded at my Google pages on the link below
> > >
> > > http://sites.
> > >
> > >
> > > The detailed report is of 9 pages.
> > >
> > > If anybody is interested in having the same, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Ajay Marathe
> > >
> > > Vashi, Navi Mumbai, Maharashtra
> >
>
The Right to Information Act 2005, is the biggest fraud inflicted upon on the citizens since the Nehru-Gandhi family.
Monday, December 14, 2009
[rti_india] Re: Fwd: Letter to Prime Ministers Office by Ambassador of India in US:--Illega
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