RTI for citizens Right to Information: [rti_india] Re: unique Identity number

1) The Indian State is not a Police state (as yet). I think we have all forgotten Emergency days inflicted on India by Gandhi parivaar.

2) the UID is not a PAN number, it does not track "transactions". It is an "optional" number. You cannot be compelled (as yet) to take a UID. What it does will do is enable the State to "identify" and "profile" RESIDENTS of India - with the aim of squishing the "troublesome" (incl. RTI activists) ones.

3) The UID scheme as it exists is violative of the Indian Constitution provisions and some judgements of the Supreme Court on privacy. Which is why the Govt is touting UID as a "voluntary" scheme. However, in practice you will need to volunteer for UID to get a bank account, passport etc. There is no LEGAL BASIS for UID (as yet). To circumvent this the GoI is implementing UID through another equally dubious body - the Planning Commission - which is a den of corruption packed with some of the biggest touts of India.

4) The GoI has selected Nandan Nilekani (don't be fooled by his ghost written book) acrefully. This man has evolved far beyond the Sam Pitroda slimeball model - in fact he openly consorts with touts and fixers in delhi's hot spots. All these people (Manmohan Singh, NN, Pitroda, Montek Singh) are puppets of foreign Intelligence agencies who want to maintain / profile Indian Citizens like they do their own. The entire UID is being indirectly financed with "war against terror" funds from US.

5) Unfortunately most Indians are easily fooled by the carrots (check black money / illegal Bangladeshis / corruption etc) our netas dangle before them. Don't swallow such garbage. UID is a tool to identify YOU !!!

6) Mr Sajjan Kumar, Jagdish Tytler and many others have been identified positively in the 1984 Sikh riots. Has any action been taken against them for 25 years ? UID will not help you to punish them, it will help them to punish you. The Police is in the pocket of the neta class - the Police will get hand-held devices to read / search / profile UID information.

7) As Ram has said, Indians dont trust the State to preserve our privacy. Any Mafia hacker running botnets can access so called India's databases. When the Govt of India is so incompetent that they cannot even draft and notify the security procedures for "secure online transactions" (previously reqd by IT Act) it is farcical to expect that a private UID database operator like UID/Nilkekani will be any better.

Sarbajit

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, satish kumar goyal <ndskgoyal@...> wrote:
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>Dear Mr Sarbajit
> I am sorry for putting my personal details on email but it was not intentional as it was already saved as my signature.
>You have said that UID will turn the state into police state--Is it not so now?
>Can the data of only good citizens be maintained which can be used to trace them.?
>Can there be no data of the criminals, corrupt,black marketers and others exploiting the poor,uneducated and underpriveleged? If it is there,can it not be used to trace them.?
>If someone from my or anyother community/religion provokes godra type incident, he should definitely be traced and punished immediately.
>If all the transactions are posted in UID card, Will it not check black money,how will any body conceal it and how will he use it?It will definitely check corruption.
>Moreover when we seek transparency in govt working,What is the problem if our details are there?
>There is a need of serious thought on it.
>Regards S K GOYAL