RTI for citizens Right to Information: [rti_india] Re: Another example of why Habibullah is a puppet for special interests.

Small correction
You are the 2nd Petitioner in the lift PIL.
Sarbajit

--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, "sarbajitr" <sroy1947@...> wrote:
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> Dear Sunil
>
> You may refer to my previous post to Bhaskar. Once again both of you have failed to appreciate the scheme of the RTI Act in its totality, and are only seeing what you want to see.
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> I have only put forth 2 small paras, which I repeat below. You too may reply to me parawise. I am sure that you already know what parawise rejoinder means seeing as how you are the 2nd Respondent in Mohd Afzal's "lift" PIL in Mumbai High Court. BTW what happened in court on that one ?
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> "1) Section 4(1)(a) does not make it obligatory for P/As to computerise the records. It enables them to do so if they are so inclined.
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> 2) You can "request" information in form of diskettes only when it is
> stored on a computer or other device - not because the information is
> voluminous and would pinch your pocket."
>
> Sarbajit
>
> --- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, Sunil Ahya <sunilahya@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sarbajit,
> >
> > 1. Quote:
> >
> > 4. (1) Every public authority *shall*—
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> > a) maintain all its records duly catalogued and indexed in a manner and the
> > form which facilitates the right to information under this Act and ensure that
> > *all records that are appropriate to be computerised are, within a
> > reasonable time and subject to availability of resources, computerised and
> > connected through a network all over the country* on different systems so
> > that access to such records is facilitated;
> >
> > Unquote
> >
> > 2. Section 4(1) begins with the use of word SHALL which makes the it
> > mandatory on the Public Authorities to follow it's sub-sections, subject to
> > the conditions laid therein.
> >
> > The relevant conditions required to be met to *ensure *computerization of
> > records, and thereby facilitate the access to such records in the desired
> > form (i.e. Compact Disc) are:
> >
> > a) Records that are appropriate to be computerized;
> > b) Reasonable time;
> > c) Availability of resources.
> >
> > 3. If all the above conditions are in the affirmative ( i.e. if there are
> > appropriate records to be computerized, reasonable time has elapsed and
> > necessary resources available), then implementing computerization of records
> > under section 4(1)(a) is obligatory on every PA.
> >
> > 4. Once the records are computerized in compliance with the said section,
> > there should not be a difficulty in providing the requested information in a
> > CD form, and in fact it will be easy, convenient and mutually beneficial for
> > both the PA and the information seeker.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Sunil.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, sarbajitr <sroy1947@> wrote:
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> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Bhaskar
> > >
> > > 1) Section 4(1)(a) does not make it obligatory for P/As to computerise the
> > > records. It enables them to do so if they are so inclined.
> > >
> > > 2) You can "request" information in form of diskettes only when it is
> > > stored on a computer or other device - not because the information is
> > > voluminous and would pinch your pocket.
> > >
> > > Sarbajit
> > >
> > > --- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, Bhaskar
> > > Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Sarbajit,
> > > > I donot think Mr. Shekar Singh is unjust in asking in CD. In Section4(1)a
> > > it
> > > > is obligatory for them to computarise the records, we also demand records
> > > in
> > > > CD if it voluminous.
> > > > Bhaskar
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen -
> > Aristotle
> >
>