Dear Mr Kounteya Sinha,
What people in power are doing is nothing but acting whimsically, secretly and undemocratically, refusing peoples' participation and still refusing to learn from the past experience.
The so called computerised system & of not informing in advance the Inspection teams of the colleges to be inspected is nothing but an eye-wash.
Oil PSUs have tried this method in the past unsuccessfully for conducting interviews for selecting Petrol Pump Dealers and LPG Distributors by forming a team of three Officers - selected randomly from different areas of professional discipline & different locations of India - & then giving them the ticket, booked in advance by Administration in respective names, at eleventh hour.
As a Team Member for conducting such interviews myself while working for Indian Oil, my own experience shows the system is not fool-proof with local vested interest aware of the things and trying their best to manipulate the working.
What is needed for improving the infrastructure at Medical Colleges is making the system transparent. The Format for inspection be made public. The past inspection reports be made public. Concerns citizens - knowledgeable, experienced, desirous, hard working, analytical - be invited for such inspections to bring out the factual position, on regular basis, for due corrective actions in time.
It is proven fact of life that the secrecy in working breeds corruption, has made our country the world famous Corrupt Country and unless the Govt thinks & works in transparent manner with participation by the citizens, wasting public money on Delhi based institutes like Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology to create a special software would serve no useful purpose.
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http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/7745821.cms
20 Mar, 2011 0130hrs IST TNN
[ Kounteya Sinha ]
[ Kounteya Sinha ]NEW DELHI: The days of unscrupulous assessment of medical colleges by inspectors of the Medical Council of India could soon be over.
For the first time, members of the MCI or its inspectors would not know before hand which colleges they are to assess on a particular day till the morning of the inspection.
In order to put an end to the practice of fake medical colleges being tipped off before inspection so that they can put in place fake faculty, false patients and hired infrastructure like libraries, the six-member governing body of the MCI has tied up with the Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology to create a special software that will randomly choo- se which colleges will be inspected on a particular day and who the inspectors would be.
The procedure was given the go ahead by Union health minister Ghulam Nabi Azad a week ago and 8-10 medical colleges have already been inspected this way. Under the new procedure, the inspectors are given a sealed envelope on the morning of the inspection, while on the way to the airport or station which contains information on which college they have to inspect and which state it is in.
This way, medical colleges don't have time in advance to prepare for the inspection and the MCI team gets the real picture of how the college is being run and whether it should be given registration or be allowed to increase undergraduate and postgraduate seats on the basis of faculty, infrastructure and patients available.
MCI govening body member Dr Ranjit Roychoudhury told TOI that 130 more inspections will be done this way. "False patients and faculty members are at present brought in hordes in buses on the morning of the inspection by event managers for those who run the colleges to show the inspection team that they have the required faculty, manpower and infrastructure to run a medical college."
For the first time, members of the MCI or its inspectors would not know before hand which colleges they are to assess on a particular day till the morning of the inspection.
In order to put an end to the practice of fake medical colleges being tipped off before inspection so that they can put in place fake faculty, false patients and hired infrastructure like libraries, the six-member governing body of the MCI has tied up with the Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology to create a special software that will randomly choo- se which colleges will be inspected on a particular day and who the inspectors would be.
The procedure was given the go ahead by Union health minister Ghulam Nabi Azad a week ago and 8-10 medical colleges have already been inspected this way. Under the new procedure, the inspectors are given a sealed envelope on the morning of the inspection, while on the way to the airport or station which contains information on which college they have to inspect and which state it is in.
This way, medical colleges don't have time in advance to prepare for the inspection and the MCI team gets the real picture of how the college is being run and whether it should be given registration or be allowed to increase undergraduate and postgraduate seats on the basis of faculty, infrastructure and patients available.
MCI govening body member Dr Ranjit Roychoudhury told TOI that 130 more inspections will be done this way. "False patients and faculty members are at present brought in hordes in buses on the morning of the inspection by event managers for those who run the colleges to show the inspection team that they have the required faculty, manpower and infrastructure to run a medical college."
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From: Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Subject: Pretty good joke, I would say reading media news "Ethics to be taught in MBBS curriculum" - What sort of Ethics Dr Manmohan Singh & Smt Pratibha Patil exhibit?
To: kounteya.sinha@timesgroup.com
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Ethics to be taught in MBBS curriculum[ Kounteya Sinha ]
From: Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Subject: Pretty good joke, I would say reading media news "Ethics to be taught in MBBS curriculum" - What sort of Ethics Dr Manmohan Singh & Smt Pratibha Patil exhibit?
To: kounteya.sinha@timesgroup.com
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Dear Mr Kounteya Sinha,
I read your article -
Ethics to be taught in MBBS curriculum.
I just wonder whether ethics can ever be taught in a classroom or is it to be practised in daily life?
While leaving apart that moot question, incidental question is whether ethics needs to be taught first to the Medical Professors or to the Medical Students who are most likely to learn what is being practised and not what is being preached to them?
In relation to the constitution of the present MCI Board, what sort of Ethics do you think Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh exhibit by appointing "Hand-Picked" Half-a-Dozen Doctors secretly and in a great hurry, without inviting applications by issuing Public Notice and without giving opportunity to the eligible & desirous persons, violating fundamental right & tramping Constitution of India?
And, what sort of Ethics do you think Smt Pratibha Patil President of India exhibit approving those arbitrarily and hence illegally selected Doctors to manage affairs of the MCI affecting the health & the lives of 120 Crore citizens?
Is there anyone in this country to Suo Moto take cognizance of their discretionary & unethical acts?
What is the Institutional Integrity of Medical Council of India whether during tenure of Dr Ketan Desai as its Head or now?
What is the Institutional Integrity of PMO?
What is the Institutional Integrity of President of India Secretariat?
Does ethics flow from top?
With warm regards,
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Ethics to be taught in MBBS curriculum
16 Mar, 2011 0641hrs IST TNN[ Kounteya Sinha ] NEW DELHI: Medical Council of India (MCI) has decided to incorporate "medical professionalism" under the revised MBBS curriculum as ethics is increasingly coming under scrutiny.
As per an MCI note, "medical ethics and professionalism forms the basis of contact between doctors and society and so it is imperative that professionalism and ethical issues in practice should be incorporated into medical curriculum."
MCI's undergraduate education working group, headed by Professor George Mathew, principal of Christian Medical College in Vellore, has strongly recommended its introduction.
Professor Mathew told TOI, "the details are still being finalized. We will formally introduce medical ethics in the curriculum."
Professor Sandeep Guleria, professor of surgery, AIIMS, who is member of the working group, added, "There is a huge problem of ethics in medical profession. Since ethics is a very important part of medicine, we will introduce lectures formally."
As per an MCI note, "medical ethics and professionalism forms the basis of contact between doctors and society and so it is imperative that professionalism and ethical issues in practice should be incorporated into medical curriculum."
MCI's undergraduate education working group, headed by Professor George Mathew, principal of Christian Medical College in Vellore, has strongly recommended its introduction.
Professor Mathew told TOI, "the details are still being finalized. We will formally introduce medical ethics in the curriculum."
Professor Sandeep Guleria, professor of surgery, AIIMS, who is member of the working group, added, "There is a huge problem of ethics in medical profession. Since ethics is a very important part of medicine, we will introduce lectures formally."
http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/7715516.cms
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From: Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Subject: Prime Minister - "Doctors must pass 'skills test' to practice" is a welcome move but has to be taken with a pinch of salt since abundant criminal irregularities in Medical Examinations reported...
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Dear Sir,
From: Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Subject: Prime Minister - "Doctors must pass 'skills test' to practice" is a welcome move but has to be taken with a pinch of salt since abundant criminal irregularities in Medical Examinations reported...
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Prime Minister,
GOI, New Delhi
"Doctors must pass 'skills test' to practice" is a welcome move.
However, it must be taken with a pinch of salt since abundant serious and criminal irregularities in Medical Examinations have been reported by media in conducting the tests including the Examiner Doctors making indecent proposals to girl to-be-Doctors with discretionary powers to give marks.
The viva test being too subjective and the assessment of the disease / cause / remedy also being subjective, there are very strong possibilities of discrimination and the exploitation while conducting the test for the to-be-Doctors. It can be on various grounds and, with our deep rooted societal biases, it can play havoc with the non-influential / disadvantaged sections of the society while influential section persons getting undue / unjustified favours.
That is what the investigation in the matter of corrupt crook of the highest order Dr (sic) Ketan Desai, MCI Chief for two decades have clearly brought out in open with CBI getting tremendous feedback through email & phone call etc in this investigation. And, the newly constituted by arbitrarily selected "Hand-Picked" half a dozen Delhi / Chandigarh based Doctors ruling MCI also show that they MCI is working with utmost secrecy, carrying out Medical Colleges in irregular manner and not putting MCI inspections in public domain.
It is, therefore, high time that in-built robust grievance redressal system for these to-be-Doctors is put in place before implementing the unilateral undemocratic decision of few Doctors of MCI.
Let Govt not be in unduly tearing hurry to implement such autocratic decisions but must do it in consultation with the citizens as it is their health and their lives that is going to be seriously at stake and also take experience / openion of the medical students / professors.
References:
Girl failing exam asked to sleep with professor -
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Girl examinees accuse professor of sexual misconduct
Bharat Yagnik,TNN,Aug 1, 2010, 03.46am IST
AHMEDABAD: Seven girl students of Jamnagar Dental College have written to state health minister Jaynarayan Vyas and dean of the college alleging physical harassment and sexual misbehaviour at the hands of a senior professor who had come from Ahmedabad to conduct the viva for their first-year final exams.
"Do you know what is a sperm? What are hormones? If you do not know such basic things, how will you fertilise?" the professor is alleged to have asked the dental students.
The girls said that the viva exam by the professor was quite threatening as he slid his feet up their legs underneath the table while asking the questions.
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[ Kounteya Sinha ]
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M - 94276 08632
http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
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Doctors must pass 'skills test' to practice
12 Mar, 2011 0349hrs IST TNN[ Kounteya Sinha ]NEW DELHI: What an undergraduate medical student learns in one-year compulsory internship after appearing for MBBS examination will now decide whether he or she gets permanent registration to practice.
Medical Council of India (MCI) is making it mandatory for medical students to appear for a new "skills test" after their internship programme. It will test their "skills to analyze patients and diagnose conditions".
At present, students get their provisional MBBS degree after appearing for the examination at the end of four-and-a-half years. Permanent registration is given after internship.
"Medical education is not about theory but practice. The new curriculum and post-internship test will prepare new doctors to deal with real patients and diseases," chief of MCI's governing body Dr S K Sarin told TOI.
Governing body member Dr Sita Naik added, "Now, no tests are in place to see if they take this year-long internship programme seriously. Most of the students use this time to prepare for their post-graduate examination. Since PG is a multiple answer theory paper, they think this clinical experience from internship is a sheer waste of time."
Dr Naik explained that "new skill tests will make an assessment of their clinical acumen. If they fail to pass this, they will be denied their permanent registration to practice".
Governing body member professor Ranjit Roychoudhury said the crucial meeting to finalise the UG and PG curriculum will be held on March 29. Union health secretary K Chandramouli will chair the meeting, which will be attended by top academicians and vice-chancellors.
"We intend to announce the new curriculum on March 29," Professor Roychoudhury said. According to Prof Roychoudhury, the new curriculum will focus on hands-on teaching. "Passing the MBBS exam will not be enough. They have to pass the skills test, and show that they are ready to take on the real world of medicine and patients," he said.
Medical Council of India (MCI) is making it mandatory for medical students to appear for a new "skills test" after their internship programme. It will test their "skills to analyze patients and diagnose conditions".
At present, students get their provisional MBBS degree after appearing for the examination at the end of four-and-a-half years. Permanent registration is given after internship.
"Medical education is not about theory but practice. The new curriculum and post-internship test will prepare new doctors to deal with real patients and diseases," chief of MCI's governing body Dr S K Sarin told TOI.
Governing body member Dr Sita Naik added, "Now, no tests are in place to see if they take this year-long internship programme seriously. Most of the students use this time to prepare for their post-graduate examination. Since PG is a multiple answer theory paper, they think this clinical experience from internship is a sheer waste of time."
Dr Naik explained that "new skill tests will make an assessment of their clinical acumen. If they fail to pass this, they will be denied their permanent registration to practice".
Governing body member professor Ranjit Roychoudhury said the crucial meeting to finalise the UG and PG curriculum will be held on March 29. Union health secretary K Chandramouli will chair the meeting, which will be attended by top academicians and vice-chancellors.
"We intend to announce the new curriculum on March 29," Professor Roychoudhury said. According to Prof Roychoudhury, the new curriculum will focus on hands-on teaching. "Passing the MBBS exam will not be enough. They have to pass the skills test, and show that they are ready to take on the real world of medicine and patients," he said.
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