Fw: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit.

First they gave birth to Naxals by gross injustices to them. Then we got Anna movement against corruption. Now, one hopes against hope that those in whose power it is to rectify such a poor state of affairs of THE MAIN PILLAR of democracy will wake up. Some the immediate steps required are: 1. CCTV coverage and recording of all courtroom proceedings; 2. Say, 10%- random evaluation of such proceedings and orders; 3. An ombudsman to immediately look into and act on complaints of misconduct and corruption by panel of retired senior judges; 4. Three or five-fold increase in number of judges-courts; 5. All-India judicial service (with culling every 1, 3, 7, 15, 30 years of service). No automatic promotions. 6. Etc. On a different level: 1. Lokpal & Lokayukt bills with 32 functional teeth; 2. Electrol reforms to keep criminal types out of public life; 3. Judicial reforms; 4. Administrative reforms; 5. Overhaul of CPC, CrPC, Evidence Act, etc. I wonder if the powers know at all that today's India is at the cross-roads of anarchy, and its fate hangs by the slender string of hope, even though going by the record of past 65 years, one is pessimistic,  Regards --- On Wed, 8/29/12, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 8:48 PM dear cooper, a lawyer even if he is ones son/father/friend will charge money to start talking.  individual cases have to be fought individually or similarly placed/effected persons can join hands. i think Luck and/or  Money  is more important for our courts then the Law. rgds. beniwal   --- On Wed, 29/8/12, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, 29 August, 2012, 12:12 AM I know what you mean. I am facing a similar serious problem with our "independent judiciary" and "vibrant democracy". Just this morning, I filed an application for disallowing further adjournments to Opposite Party as being against the letter and spirit of Consumer Protection Act, as out of the 5 years delay in settling case, 3.5 years could be attributed to unlawful adjournments. The "judge" gave another adjournment!!!! Now, after if I still fail after one more try, am planning an international media campaign / or a dharna outside the court. I will probably be arrested for contempt or some such thing, but there has to be some limit to nonsense. Could some lawyer friends in this group provide some guidance on the matter please? Would you or any other aggrieved reader friends care to team up? --- On Mon, 8/27/12, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 10:29 PM what could a petitioner ( particularly if in person) do, when his SLP is dismissed with out hearing his oral argument(standing in court and told not to speak) against the (false/misleading) one line oral submission made by the govt. panel ordinary advocate, and then order comes out after few days saying the ASG made the statement and quotes a paragraph.  please note-Neither the ASG was present in the court nor the paragraph quoted in the order was stated in the court. there was no discussion of the contended rules under which relief was requested.   now that judgement and order being cited to deprive the other similarly placed petitioner. such petitioners do not know how the collusive order was obtained by the govt.  this is how some judges work and govt. obtains orders.  by the way that judge got higher position in reward. this is the real meaning of "independence of judiciary".       --- On Mon, 27/8/12, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, 27 August, 2012, 8:45 AM Dear Friend: Right away, I should inform you that I am not a lawyer, and am going from the experience of court battles. Therefore: You should consult good lawyer, You could consider filing a perjury case (it will probably be a separate case under criminal jurisprudence), But you should keep in mind that such an option at this stage will probably slow down your original complaint, So, (my preference), do a clever written cross-examination of opponent to bring out the perjuries, Wait till your case is heard and finally disposed off, and then proceed with perjury complaint. (I should warn you that India's laws are plentyful, but their implementation is horrendously flawed. This is so mostly on account of "judges" that give adjournment after adjournment at the drop of a hat -or even without the drop of any hat at all, and matters that could/should be disposed off in months will often take many years; they will come up with judgments you never argued, they will ignore precedents set by even SC, after a 10 year battle will "allow" a princely 5,000 as costs - whereas in matters relating to certain types of litigants, they will give costs of 10 or 30 lacs!, etc., etc. Under these conditions, one should not be surprised that many would question the integrity and competence of judges.) --- On Sun, 8/26/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - If the Opp Party is found to have given false notarised affidavit. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 7:21 PM If it is tendered on affidavit (as evidence in chief), you have the right to disprove it by way of cross-examination or counter-affidavit. On 8/27/12, C R Mohan Raj <crmohanraj@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear Sir, > In my case the Opposite Party has given a false affidavit [Notarised]. > Kindly advice as to how I proceed? > Thanks > Mohan Raj > > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - ADDITION OF GROUND IN THE PETITION AT > CONSUMER FORUM > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, 26 August, 2012, 10:25 PM > > You should make out an application for amendment of complaint.In that > amendment application, you should set out the changes / additions / > deletions you want made to your original complaint, alongwith evidence if > any.After the same is allowed by court, you should compile all the evidence, > notarise same, and put it up in an affidavit as Evidence Affidavit.Hope this > helps. > > --- On Sun, 8/26/12, prasad vaidya <prasadbvaidya@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: prasad vaidya <prasadbvaidya@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - ADDITION OF GROUND IN THE PETITION AT > CONSUMER FORUM > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, August 26, 2012, 6:18 AM > > to you can file application to amend your complaint filled with the District > consumer forum. You can even add additional parties as complainant . > > viadya > > --- On Sun, 26/8/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > > From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> > Subject: [HumJanenge] PL. ADVICE - ADDITION OF GROUND IN THE PETITION AT > CONSUMER FORUM > To: "RTI Act 2005 Hum Janenge Forum People's Right to Information" > <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> > Date: Sunday, 26 August, 2012, 11:00 AM > > I >  filed a case against >  a builder (Vatika > Land Base, Gurgaon) in the Consumer Forum, Gurgaon and which has been > admitted. > After this, another consumer told me about some other instances of > misrepresentation of facts and cheating which came to his knowledge from the > reply of Jaipur Development Board on an RTI > filed by him. > > > > Now, what is the procedure to add these > such facts in the petition?  Please > enlighten me.