RE: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

Dear all,

Can't we think out of the box. Can't we handle technological challenges?

If we are to gloat over our 5,000 years culture, why are so many people unethical and barbaric ? How come there is civic discipline in Singapore. MBD is the answer. We can talk of eliminating corruption. But unless we take concrete action on the ground nothing much will come out of it. We have seen corruption grow in geometric proportions over the last 67 years. Why we could not have initiated ethical living from day one of our democracy. I was invited by Mr. Nitish Kumar to Bihar to pave the way for anti corruption initiatives.

To answer Sarabjit, do you wish to further enhance corruption levels by printing rs 5000 and rs 10000 currency notes. We will truly become a banana republic.

To correct him, I wish to clarify, I've nothing to sell nor any vested interest. I'm just an Evangelist for good governance. I've been around the globe on business and know what I'm saying is in the common man's interest. Nothing more. Nothing less. It's up to each one to agree or disagree or ignore.

Best,

Kris Dev.

-----Original Message-----
From: rb purohit
Sent: 01/12/2012 11:44:49 am
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

Good Advice in absence of total financial Inclusion and Rising out of
proportion Inflation. How about elimination of all currency Notes coins
below Re 10. COINS FOR 10 50, 100 AND 1000.
On 01-Dec-2012 11:34 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

> @KrisDev
> 1) Many people prefer to keep their assets in tangible form
> 2) E-currency is not implemented anywhere in the world.
> 3) Bio-metrics ? first amend the Constitution
> 4) With inflation being what is is we need a 10,000 rupee note and fast.
> 5) Do you know how many hundreds of complaints are logged daily
> about securities frauds in Demat accounts?
> 6) You have a typical babu attitude that a techno solution will make
> all problems go away. Sorry, you have a vested interest in promoting
> this technology.
> 7) Think like a hacker.
> 8) Is it a crime to possess a 1,000 rupee note ?
> 9) Have you thought through the Constitutional implications of being
> a "socialist" state with what you propose.
> 10) Is it a crime to be "rich" ?
> 11) Do you trust all your money with US corporations like VISA and
> MASTERCARD
> and with the Indian FinNet yet to be fully tested ?
> 12) Have you ever thought how it would be to be the victim of a cyber
> crime and find all traces of your savings evaporated into cyber space
> with no trace.
>
> Sarbajit
> .
> On 12/1/12, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sounds brilliant, but how "hack-proof" is the tech? Till we can vouch
> > for its being solid - you are replacing NATIONAL CURRENCY with it, I
> > don't support. ATMs get spammed, there are vulnerabilities exposed in
> > online bank transfers. There exist criminals who make careers hacking
> > things like this (and most of the best ones are outside the country,
> > including hotspot China - with whom we have differences of opinion and
> > they have state sponsored hacking). This may mean to people's life's
> > earnings being vulnerable to vanishing.
> >
> > Additionally, security measures may result in horrendous losses of
> privacy.
> >
> > The idea itself has merit, without doubt, but the application will be
> > fraught with challenge, and till we can say with reasonable certainty
> > that such a system can be secured and can be free from corruption
> > (Ambani can afford to pay hackers if need be, for example), we will
> > not be doing a responsible thing.
> >
> > My view.
> >
> > Vidyut
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Kris Dev <krisdev@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I have been communicating with IAC in the past. I asked them to advocate
> >> banning of currency circulation in stages, first removing Rs. 1000 and
> Rs
> >> 500 from circulation to weed out black money and fake currency. The
> >> genuine
> >> currency with citizens can be deposited in banks and their bank account
> >> updated. Next rs 100 and rs 50 currency notes can be removed from
> >> circulation and so on.
> >>
> >> Instead of liquid cash, Biometric Smart Card can be the medium of
> >> transaction. This would leave an indelible audit trail. Most scams can
> be
> >> eradicated. Elections can be made transparent. Are the anti-corruption
> >> advocating NGOs for total transparency and accountability?
> >>
> >> What do others in this forum think?
> >>
> >> Kris Dev
> >> Independent Anti-corruption Activist
> >> Chennai
> >>
> >> --
> >> "He/she should not do that which he/she knows to be wrong, and suffer
> the
> >> consequence whatever it may be, this is the key to the use of
> >> soul-force."
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1 December 2012 09:56, M Baig <raaz.baig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Reddy
> >>>
> >>> Not everybody is now so convinced about honesty of Arvind Kejriwal and
> >>> Manish Sisodia as you are.
> >>>
> >>> Not everybody in IAC is convinced about the decision to form a
> political
> >>> party - AAP.
> >>>
> >>> Not everybody is satisfied with non-transparent and vague accounts
> which
> >>> Arvind and Manish have given about funds collected in name of IAC
> >>>
> >>> Not everybody is convinced about how India Against Corruption
> >>> "initiative"
> >>> came about, called on Prime Minister and then some IAC "organisation"
> >>> began
> >>> corresponding with Delhi Police and MCD to book Jantar Mantar and Ram
> >>> Lila
> >>> grounds for Anna Hazare's fasts. These actions have caused great
> >>> CRIMINAL
> >>> LIABILITY for IAC which those persons cannot now run away from. Will
> Dr.
> >>> Kiran Bedi former IPS take responsibility for these actions ?
> >>>
> >>> Haven't you been seeing the photos in Arvind ki Junngle mein Mangal
> >>> series
> >>> on "RealAamAadmiParty" blog . How can you still say that they are
> honest
> >>> and
> >>> sober people ? IAC does not want such persons.
> >>>
> >>> example
> >>> https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/iac/2012-11/msg00232.html
> >>>
> >>> Mohd Ali Baig
> >>> Dist Coordinator IAC
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, MVReddy wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort
> >>>> against
> >>>> Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all
> >>>> these
> >>>> people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
> >>>> Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/
> >>>> Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of
> AAP.
> >>>> But
> >>>> people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind
> >>>> Kesariwal.
> >>>> Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is
> >>>> really
> >>>> sad that people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and
> yesterday
> >>>> by
> >>>> Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public
> >>>> this
> >>>> way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam
> >>>> associated
> >>>> people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild
> >>>> allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to
> have
> >>>> synergistic effect.
> >>>> Hope sense will prevail in these people.
> >>>> Writing with anguish.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vidyut Kale
> > 9869060575
> > aamjanata.com
> >
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