Saturday, April 20, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

Mr Deepak Verma

If you do not see corruption in not enacting a Uniform Civil Code, a sine qua non for a society truly ruled by law, then you can definitely opt out of any discussion on corruption. It is my opinion that all rules must be neutral-gender, religion, community, region etc wise. The specifics in any case will have to be considered by courts which should have judges of impeccable integrity, competent, transparent in their dealings and accountable.

regards

ravi


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deepak Verma <deepakmohan.verma@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't get this discussion on Defination of Hindu. Our main motive is
to fight against CORRUPTION and we are arguing in definations and
reading something like number of children per family. and we called it
a IDEOLOGY of IAC, I mean just cut the crap please. If I am not wrong
then Our main agenda is to fight against curruption not just finding
same defination which ,might, create some religion differences in
society.

OR If any one can please justify that where is the Corruption thing is
coming in this discussion then it would be better to understand.


On 3/28/13, Varun Khajuria <khajuria.v@gmail.com> wrote:
> For god sake dont term "Bharat" Ram hanuman shiva as mythological if u want
> to use these terms for sanatan dharm then use these terms for other beliefs
> also dont be a hypocrate
>
> Thanks
>
> Varun
> On Mar 24, 2013 2:29 PM, "Navnith Krishnan" <navkris@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sarbajit,
>>
>>
>> You will agree with me that the word Hindu and India are both derived
>> from
>> the word Sindhu.The Persians  used to broadly refer to those living
>> around the River Sindhu as Hindus.Since the river Sindhu or Indus is in
>> Pakistan,by your theory is it not a fallacy to call our country as India?
>> Ofcourse,Bharath is based on the mythological figure,Bharatha,who was a
>> great Emperor.But this name is recognized by the Constitution of
>> India,perhaps to highlight our great cultural heritage.We have enough
>> issues already,so why waste time splitting our hairs about India and
>> Bharath.Let both unite us.
>>
>> With regards to number of children,it is not a question of two children
>> per man or per woman. Why Muslims are allowed to have a separate personal
>> law in a so called cecular democracy..Why should they be allowed to
>> practice poligamy.Rajiv Gandhi did the biggwest blunder by getting the
>> constitution amended to deny a poor Muslim woman alimony.Her rights as an
>> Indian citizen was thus denied.Perhaps BJP is the only party demanding
>> common civil code.******
>>
>> *navnith*
>>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:18:54 +0530
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>>
>> Dear Navnith
>>
>> IAC is extremely focussed on 3 and only 3 words which are "India",
>> "Against", and "Corruption".
>>
>> The BJP and Aam Aadmi Party etc is not at all concerned about "India"
>> they
>> are only concerrnd about some mythical and non-existent "Bharat". The
>> only
>> party which makes mention of India is the 'Indian" National Congress (and
>> we all know how Indian that party is. So please rest assured that IAC
>> will
>> eventually define "India" in a UNIFYING way which truly makes every one
>> who
>> shall remain in our movement very happy and proud..
>>
>> Once everyone in IAC becomes an "Indian" (as agreed and accepted) , we
>> shall unleash the power of  AGAINST. because that needs hardly any
>> definition.
>>
>> On population control, a simple question you can assist IAC on:-
>>
>> If a monogamist Hindu family is ever limited to 2 children by law, should
>> the family of a polygamist Muslim with 4 wives be limited to 2 children
>> or
>> 8 children ?
>> ,
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Navnith Krishnan
>> <navkris@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarbajit,
>> Good, you are in the process of defining and clarifying IAC's ideological
>> issues.Perhaps it may make IAC more focussed rather than making it a
>> platform for members to comment on every issue under the sun.
>> But do you think 'black money' and 'population control' are divisive
>> issues which should be frozen?.Do you think corruption is a 'meaningless'
>> issue?It looks more like Congress 'ideology'.
>>
>>
>> *navnith*
>>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:02:57 +0530
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>>
>> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>>
>> Dear Major Sarwara etc.
>>
>> IAC is now is the process of defining and clarifying certain ideological
>> issues, and to see thereby which organisations can work with IAC and vice
>> versa.
>>
>> This is not the old IAC where "all good people"  came together on the
>> simplistic (and meaningless) issue of corruption, and which old IAC
>> collapsed under the weight of its own ideological and egoistical
>> contradictions.
>>
>> This IAC's platform and agenda  is going to be clear, and its stand on
>> various issues , including *religion which is a fountainhead of
>> corruption in India and is deeply embedded in our political and economic
>> culture*, will be consistent.
>>
>> IAC is determined to get as many of the troublesome and divisive issues
>> frozen before we move forward with our campaign.  Religion is only one of
>> them, "black money" is another, "population control" is a third etc etc.
>>
>> We are also encouraging everyone to leave IAC who is not prepared to
>> endure this painful learning process, or who has sympathy for the ways of
>> the old IAC and its past leaders.
>>
>>  I'm sorry to be so blunt, but its better to be disillusioned now than to
>> be disillusioned later.
>>
>> It is also a mark of how seriously HRA takes this process that I am
>> personally tasked for answering all queries so that there is as little
>> deviation as is possible, and since the time with us is so very short.
>>
>> Since our public list is open, vario0us outside entities are "pinging"
>> apolitical IAC through the maliing list to see what we now are and where
>> we
>> stand and where we are going.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <vartika.journalist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Everybody please pay attention to what Major D S Sarvana Very rightly
>> said
>> ..
>> Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:12:52
>> To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> Reply-To: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>>
>> Uf!what crap going on in IAC,every one is trying to show their knowledge
>> to others on matters not concerned with IAC platform.Useless sub being
>> discussed except corruption.Is deviation planned by   vested
>> interests?......Major D S Sarwara
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from !DEA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:11:46
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