Re: [IAC#RG] Need for Electoral Reforms -- Fundamental Deficiency

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From: "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 9:46:28 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Need for Electoral Reforms -- Fundamental Deficiency


Dear Raj

I would like to know how you assessed my knowledge of PR systems. I use the term PR "Proportional Representation" instead of PE you use as IAC doesn't restrict itself to "Electoral"s.

I can assure you that my knowledge is as deep as yours should you care to test it out - in which case I would prefer it is done publicly.

IAC policy is very ancient (over 80 years) on this issue being derived from HRA's.

The ideal of course is "Direct Democracy" but it is presently impractical. IAC opposes the present Parliamentary democracy as a fraud on citizens an unrepresentative till there is a practical and efficient "right to recall" representatives.

As I presume you have some expertise, I am taking care to specify that IAC has a holistic position on "representative democracy" similar to Adolf Gasser's.

" Society has to be built up from bottom to top. As a consequence, society is built up by people, which are free and have the power to defend themselves with weapons. "

We have no objection, as yet, to "lottocracy" :-)

Sarbajit


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM, M C Raj < mcraj.reds@gmail.com > wrote:


Sarabjit


What a half baked knowledge of Proportional Electoral System and you have taken a stand on it with this half baked knowledge. This is the sorry state of India.


Raj




On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Kumar Arun < kumar2786@hotmail.com > wrote:




Dear Sarbjit,


Would you please elaborate #6?


Thanks.


Dr. Kumar Arun



Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 22:08:11 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Need for Electoral Reforms -- Fundamental Deficiency

Dear Pavan

I thought the gist of IAC's stand on Electoral Reforms is pretty clear and is based on the extensive mathematical research conducted since 1920's by HRA (IAC's predecessor).

As you know IAC's policies on electoral reforms have been constantly circulated, discussed and improved among our subscribers. Your email is yet another step in that direction.

The present position is essentially:-

1) IAC firmly believes in representative democracy for the Republic .

2) IAC firmly believes in minimal government except for essentials such as security, foreign affairs, law and order etc.

3) IAC opposes the current flawed system of "1 man 1 vote" as being undemocratic.

4) IAC opposes proportional representation as it usually leads to minority / weak governments and unhealthy coalition politics thereby breeding all round corruption.

5) IAC believes in accountability through elections This includes negative voting whereby a voter can exercise a negative vote AGAINST a particular candidate (especially sitting candidates/parties) on the ballot.

6) IAC believes that "first past the post system" is wrong. No candidate must be declared elected who does not secure a majority of votes of the registered voters (irrespective of how many votes are actually cast) for that "constituency".

7) IAC opposes all Electronic Voting Machines till they are verifiably accurate and tamper proof/evident. At today's technology level the US Army has proved it is impossible for any EV system to be uncorrupted.

8) IAC believes that the present EVMs are rigged and the Election Commission of India is an active participant in this rigging with the CECs being the ringmasters in this dishonest electoral circus.

9) IAC denounces all scoundrels who are mischievously propagating "49-0" type voting, as "negative voting". It is not, and 49-0 is meaningless except to mathematically benefit existing large parties.

and so on,

Sarbajit


National Convenor
India Against Corruption

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM, pavan nair < pavannair1@gmail.com > wrote:


I entirely agree with this view. I think it is high time that the IAC declares its stand on electoral reforms. Pavan Nair





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