Re: [IAC#RG] [New post] AMBEDKAR NEVER PARTICIPATED IN FREEDOM STRUGGLE FOR COUNTRY

Dear Sir
After 65 yrs there is no point talking about Shri Ambedkar who was the
chairman of the Drafting committee , we conveniently forgot the
chairman of the constituent assembly Dr Rajendra Prasad who was the
main force that created a bias free Constitution of India. Well still
it is felt that the certain aspects of the constitution oppose each
other thereby creating a situation for interpretation by the authority
and that is where the preamble is forgotten.Many of the politicians
who take oath to abide by the constitution defy it the moment they are
in power because of a) interpretation b) no one challenges it.
Vijoy Ambasta

On 11/05/2014, Vishwanath Mada <vishmada@hotmail.com> wrote:
> To ALL READERS OF THIS MAIL
> In 2014 we are talking of a person is PEDIGREED MEMBER of a community. To
> day we after so many years of INDEPENDENCE. We should talk of the proud
> nation and boast to the world we have conquered the country of poverty and
> cast and creed disparities.
> TODAY WE SHOULD TALK OF EVERY CITIZEN FULL RIGHT OF EQUALITY IN THE EYE OF
> THE LAW AND ABOVE ALL IN THE EYE OF EVERY CITIZEN AS EQUAL AND PROVIDE
> EDUCATION, DECENT LIVING STANDARD TO EVERY CITIZEN. Please donot talk of
> LOWER CAST, DALIT OR ADIVASI.
> Let us be proud Indian first, and Last. Welfare of the people without any
> cast bias is the prime goal should be of every INDIAN.
> FORGET what who did. Find out our SHORT COMINGS after INDEPENDENCE. Make
> sure we do not repeat the same mistakes once again and every time.
> Vishwanath Mada
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> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 22:25:18 +0530ltcolttkishore@gmail.com
> To: comment+ci865o1ign4i26ijzns0w8gn@comment.wordpress.com
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] [New post] AMBEDKAR NEVER PARTICIPATED IN FREEDOM
> STRUGGLE FOR COUNTRY
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> What's the purpose of this write up?Nobody can discount the personality of
> BabaSaheb.( I a pedigreed member of Brahmin Casteam in total awe of the
> great person who overcame great challenges and consider him an AVATAR /
> Siddhapurush in the mold of rishis and gnanis). His shortcomings are
> minuscule as compared to Gandhi/ Nehrus/ Jinnah.
> A rough estimate puts Lower Castes( Sudras) , Dalits and Adivasis constitute
> a whopping 70% of BharatVasis.So is' nt it a travesty of natural justice to
> perpetuate backwardness of majority. Meritocracy is good but welfare of
> majority is the crying need .
> Please spare me and like minded people of this vitriol.Veteran TTKishore
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> The recent furore following the desecration of Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar's
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> 'There is not one instance, not one
> single, solitary instance in which Ambedkar participated in any activity
> connected with that struggle to free the country'
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> The recent furore following the desecration of Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar's
> statue in Bombay has largely been interpreted as the resurgence of the dalit
> movement in India. A phenomenon which first saw its genesis in the
> philosophy and personality of Dr B R Ambedkar 50 years ago.
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> In his latest book, Worshipping False Gods, Arun Shourie challenges Dr
> Ambedkar's contribution to Indian Independence. The book has already run
> into controversy and several dalit organisations in Maharashtra want it
> banned.
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> Ambedkar's public life begins in a sense from a public meeting held at the
> Damodar Hall in Bombay on March 9, 1924. The struggle for freeing the
> country from the British was by then in full swing. Swami Vivekananda's
> work, Sri Aurobindo's work, the Lokmanya's work had already stirred the
> country. Lokmanya Tilak had passed away in 1920. The leadership of the
> National Movement had fallen on Gandhiji. He had already led the country in
> the Champaran satyagraha, the Khilafat movement, in the satyagraha against
> the Rowlatt Act, against the killings in Jallianwala Bagh and the merciless
> repression in Punjab. This National Movement culminated in the country's
> Independence in 1947.
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> In a word, a quarter century of Ambedkar's public career overlapped with
> this struggle of the country to free itself from British rule. There is not
> one instance, not one single, solitary instance in which Ambedkar
> participated in any activity connected with that struggle to free the
> country. Quite the contrary--at every possible turn he opposed the campaigns
> of the National Movement, at every setback to the Movement he was among
> those cheering the failure.
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> Thus, while the years culminated in the country's Independence, in
> Ambedkar's case they culminated in his becoming a member of the Viceroy's
> Council, that is -- to use the current terms -- a Minister in the British
> Cabinet in India.
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> The writings of Ambedkar following the same pattern. The Maharashtra
> government has by now published 14 volumes of the speeches and writings of
> Ambedkar. These cover 9,996 pages. Volumes up to the 12th contain his
> speeches and writing up to 1946. These extend to 7,371 pages. You would be
> hard put to find one article, one speech, one passage in which Ambedkar can
> be seen even by inference to be arguing for India's Independence. Quite the
> contrary.
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> Pause for a minute and read the following:
> All me to say that the British have a moral responsibility towards the
> scheduled castes. They may have moral responsibilities towards all
> minorities. But it can never transcend the moral responsibility which rests
> on them in respect of the untouchables. It is a pity how few Britishers are
> aware of it and how fewer are prepared to discharge it. British rule in
> India owes its very existence to the help rendered by the untouchables. Many
> Britishers think that India was conquered by the Clives, Hastings, Coots and
> so on. Nothing can be a greater mistake. India was conquered by an army of
> Indians and the Indians who formed the army were all untouchables. British
> rule in India would have been impossible if the untouchables had not helped
> the British to conquer India. Take the Battle of Plassey which laid the
> beginning of British rule or the battle of Kirkee which completed the
> conquest of India. In both these fateful battles the soldiers who fought for
> the British were all untouchables...
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> Who is pleading thus to whom? It is B R Ambedkar writing on 14 May 1946 to a
> member of the (British) Cabinet Mission, A V Alexander.
> Nor was this a one-of slip, an arrangement crafted just for the occasion.
> Indeed, so long as the British were ruling over India, far from trying to
> hide such views, Ambedkar would lose no opportunity to advertise them, and
> to advertise what he had been doing to ensure that they came to prevail in
> practice. Among the faithful his book What Congress and Gandhi Have Done to
> the Untouchables is among the most admired and emulated of his writings. It
> was published in 1945, that is just two years or so before India became
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> As we shall see when we turn to Ambedkar's views on how harijans may be
> raised, it is an out and out regurgitation of the things that the British
> rulers and the missionaries wanted to be said, of the allegations and worse
> that they had been hurling at our civilisation and people. The book has been
> published officially by the education department of the government of
> Maharashtra, and is sold at a subsidised price! It constitutes Volume IX of
> the set Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar, Writings and Speeches. It reproduces the
> speech Ambedkar made at the Round Table Conference -- a speech which served
> the designs of the British rulers to the dot, and for which, as we shall
> soon see, they were ever so grateful to Ambedkar for it became one of the
> principal devices for thwarting Gandhiji.
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> In the speech Ambedkar addresses the prime minister and says, "Prime
> minister, permit me to make one thing clear. The depressed classes are not
> anxious, they are not clamorous, they have not started any movement for
> claiming that there shall be an immediate transfer of power from the British
> to the Indian people.... Their position, to put it plainly, is that we are
> not anxious for transfer of power from the British to the Indian people....
> Their position, to put it plainly, is that we are not anxious for transfer
> of political power...." But if the British were no longer strong enough to
> resist the forces which were clamouring for such transfer, Ambedkar
> declared, then his demand was that they make certain arrangements--
> arrangements which we shall encounter repeatedly in his speeches and
> writings, the essential point about which was to tie down the new government
> of Independent India.
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> Excerpted from Worshipping False Gods by Arun Shourie
> source:http://www.rediff.com/freedom/29ambed.htm
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