Re: [HumJanenge] IMPORTANT MAIL: Group moderating policy for February 2011

Good...
I think we are living in democratic world not autocratic. I firmly believe only mail related to RTI should be posted here but even if moderator want to reject any postings, that should be reviewed and in proper appropriate language should be refused.

When all member whoever posted mail in response of Mr. Roy's posting condemned the language, their voice shouldn't be left unheard.


Regards
Govind

On 1 February 2011 08:18, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Col

You have nothing to worry about as yet. Keep posting.
This is a new procedure we are trying out. Instead of
moderating individual message posts which are placed in
moderation queque by the spam filters, we are going to
allow "trusted"members to post directly bypassing filters.

A trusted member is one who can be trusted to consistently
post messages in accordance with group regulations.

Sarbajit

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Moderator,

With so many directins, I am little confuced. Kindly let me know my
position please

On 31/01/2011, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:
> To all dear H-J members,
>
> In past 1 month the moderators are focussed on maintaining 300 email limit
> to this group. In January 2011 about 564 emails were posted to group and 296
> emails have been circulated / allowed so far.
>
> To ensure that nobody complains that dissenting emails are not censor, only
> crticising emails were allowed. This has given wrong impression that 1
> senior moderator has no supporters.
>
> We are also seeing that HJ-GG is #1 RTI e-group. RTI4EMPOWERMENT-GG is #2
> e-group in terms of messages posted. So from next month (1, FEBRUARY 2011)
> there will be some new procedures to ensure that there is full and balanced
> discussion.
>
> *1) ONLY THOSE MEMBERS WHO CONSISTENTLY CONTRIBUTE POSITIVE OR IMPORTANT
> MESSAGE POSTS ON RTI WILL BE RETAINED ON THIS GROUP.
>
> 2) MEMBERS WHO CROSSPOST SHALL BE EXPELLED WITHOUT NOTICE.
> *
> S.D. Sharma
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:31 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>>
>>  U R talking about the support, now members do not want to waste their
>> time
>> on this as it is useless.
>>
>
>
>> God knows who are Ssarkara Saints and who r govt. stooges.  Wrong
>> statement
>> that 250 members have supported the proposed statement. S R has
>> recommended
>> to limit words to even 150 words rather 250.  I suggest to recommend '0'
>> word, except address and applicant contact details.  What is your opinion,
>> Roy Sahib.?
>>
>> I demand to change the name of this grp as Tantrums of S Roy.  It seems
>> that Mr. Wajahat Habibullah rightly call him a great entertainer.
>>
>> Stop yourselves from giving or reacting to his suggestion to save time
>> otherwise v may become mad.
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 30/1/11, Govind... Hoping for better
>> <hopegovind@gmail.com>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to
>> Mumbai(500km.)
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 11:36 PM
>>
>>
>> Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act
>> and behaviour
>>
>> On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy

>> <sroy.mb@gmail.com<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sroy.mb@gmail.com>

>> > wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, is the language "abusive" ?
>>
>> Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how
>> these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting
>> the boot" meant.
>>
>> Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against
>> one's inferiors.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta

>> <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>

>> > wrote:
>>
>>   Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be
>> used by a gentleman.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ______________________________
>> *"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
>> But because of the silence of good people!"
>>
>> --Napoleon*
>>
>> *Govind*- 9960704146
>> URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
>> Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>

--
______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"

--Napoleon

Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

[HumJanenge] stabbed but not dead

Dear Friends, I would like to confirm that although i have received a lot of death treats relating to RTI, this incident has nothing to do with with RTI, it was a Paranoid Physopranic neighbour who did it, i did not know he was carrying a knife.   Love  Leslie Almeida

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I thank every one who stood by me in the hour of need and their prayers although stabbed 7 times, 5 back 1 chest, 1 eye, I survived, Its a miracle, my eye too is OK although lost over 3 lters of Blood did not need blood transfusion,   i thank Dr Christopher D'souza , Dr Vernon Sequira, Dr Dastoor,Dr Jadwani, nurses and staff  of Holy Family hospital for giving me timely quality treatment, I am back home , but still need to recoup, Doctors said i survived because i was fat, so friends see the the advantage of being Fat.  God is great,   Love Leslie Almeida

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I thank every one who stood by me in the hour of need and their prayers although stabbed 7 times, 5 back 1 chest, 1 eye, I survived, Its a miracle, my eye too is OK although lost over 3 lters of Blood did not need blood transfusion,   i thank Dr Christopher D'souza , Dr Vernon Sequira, Dr Dastoor,Dr Jadwani, nurses and staff  of Holy Family hospital for giving me timely quality treatment, I am back home , but still need to recoup, Doctors said i survived because i was fat, so friends see the the advantage of being Fat.  God is great,   Love Leslie Almeida

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Re: [HumJanenge] IMPORTANT MAIL: Group moderating policy for February 2011

Dear Col

You have nothing to worry about as yet. Keep posting.
This is a new procedure we are trying out. Instead of
moderating individual message posts which are placed in
moderation queque by the spam filters, we are going to
allow "trusted"members to post directly bypassing filters.

A trusted member is one who can be trusted to consistently
post messages in accordance with group regulations.

Sarbajit

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Moderator,

With so many directins, I am little confuced. Kindly let me know my
position please

On 31/01/2011, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:
> To all dear H-J members,
>
> In past 1 month the moderators are focussed on maintaining 300 email limit
> to this group. In January 2011 about 564 emails were posted to group and 296
> emails have been circulated / allowed so far.
>
> To ensure that nobody complains that dissenting emails are not censor, only
> crticising emails were allowed. This has given wrong impression that 1
> senior moderator has no supporters.
>
> We are also seeing that HJ-GG is #1 RTI e-group. RTI4EMPOWERMENT-GG is #2
> e-group in terms of messages posted. So from next month (1, FEBRUARY 2011)
> there will be some new procedures to ensure that there is full and balanced
> discussion.
>
> *1) ONLY THOSE MEMBERS WHO CONSISTENTLY CONTRIBUTE POSITIVE OR IMPORTANT
> MESSAGE POSTS ON RTI WILL BE RETAINED ON THIS GROUP.
>
> 2) MEMBERS WHO CROSSPOST SHALL BE EXPELLED WITHOUT NOTICE.
> *
> S.D. Sharma
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:31 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>>
>>  U R talking about the support, now members do not want to waste their
>> time
>> on this as it is useless.
>>
>
>
>> God knows who are Ssarkara Saints and who r govt. stooges.  Wrong
>> statement
>> that 250 members have supported the proposed statement. S R has
>> recommended
>> to limit words to even 150 words rather 250.  I suggest to recommend '0'
>> word, except address and applicant contact details.  What is your opinion,
>> Roy Sahib.?
>>
>> I demand to change the name of this grp as Tantrums of S Roy.  It seems
>> that Mr. Wajahat Habibullah rightly call him a great entertainer.
>>
>> Stop yourselves from giving or reacting to his suggestion to save time
>> otherwise v may become mad.
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 30/1/11, Govind... Hoping for better
>> <hopegovind@gmail.com>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to
>> Mumbai(500km.)
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 11:36 PM
>>
>>
>> Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act
>> and behaviour
>>
>> On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy

>> <sroy.mb@gmail.com<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sroy.mb@gmail.com>

>> > wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, is the language "abusive" ?
>>
>> Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how
>> these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting
>> the boot" meant.
>>
>> Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against
>> one's inferiors.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta

>> <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>

>> > wrote:
>>
>>   Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be
>> used by a gentleman.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ______________________________
>> *"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
>> But because of the silence of good people!"
>>
>> --Napoleon*
>>
>> *Govind*- 9960704146
>> URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
>> Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

Retention of public records  falls under the Public Records Act. There is a records officer who decides the retention policy for documents.

Some issues:

1) RTI Act allows for citizens to apply for records after 20 years, and the SHALL be provided.

2) If somebody demands a certified copy, then he has the right to compare it to the original. If the original is destroyed then the digital fascmile has no evidentiary value
and a certifed copy cannot be given (must check out the Information Technology Act again for this).

3) The documents in the files are Intellectual property of the parties.

4) Under the Public Records Act, only "ephemeral" documents can be weeded out.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Manoj Pai <manojpai@yahoo.com> wrote:

If one goes through the same minutes, note that " In all cases digitized version would be retained." So the Commission is  on the safe side. However, as the Commission is a quasi judicial body, they will have to follow the procedure as adopted by other tribunals. CAT preserves them for nearly 20 years. The tribal issue a circular, asking advocates and all those interested, to come and inspect the files before they are destroyed. The files are later shredded and then recycled through the Min of Environment. Manoj --- On Mon, 1/31/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC? Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?   There seems to be all round confusion.   Hari Goyal   31.01.2011

Re: [HumJanenge] IMPORTANT MAIL: Group moderating policy for February 2011

Dear Moderator,

With so many directins, I am little confuced. Kindly let me know my
position please

On 31/01/2011, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:
> To all dear H-J members,
>
> In past 1 month the moderators are focussed on maintaining 300 email limit
> to this group. In January 2011 about 564 emails were posted to group and 296
> emails have been circulated / allowed so far.
>
> To ensure that nobody complains that dissenting emails are not censor, only
> crticising emails were allowed. This has given wrong impression that 1
> senior moderator has no supporters.
>
> We are also seeing that HJ-GG is #1 RTI e-group. RTI4EMPOWERMENT-GG is #2
> e-group in terms of messages posted. So from next month (1, FEBRUARY 2011)
> there will be some new procedures to ensure that there is full and balanced
> discussion.
>
> *1) ONLY THOSE MEMBERS WHO CONSISTENTLY CONTRIBUTE POSITIVE OR IMPORTANT
> MESSAGE POSTS ON RTI WILL BE RETAINED ON THIS GROUP.
>
> 2) MEMBERS WHO CROSSPOST SHALL BE EXPELLED WITHOUT NOTICE.
> *
> S.D. Sharma
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:31 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>>
>> U R talking about the support, now members do not want to waste their
>> time
>> on this as it is useless.
>>
>
>
>> God knows who are Ssarkara Saints and who r govt. stooges. Wrong
>> statement
>> that 250 members have supported the proposed statement. S R has
>> recommended
>> to limit words to even 150 words rather 250. I suggest to recommend '0'
>> word, except address and applicant contact details. What is your opinion,
>> Roy Sahib.?
>>
>> I demand to change the name of this grp as Tantrums of S Roy. It seems
>> that Mr. Wajahat Habibullah rightly call him a great entertainer.
>>
>> Stop yourselves from giving or reacting to his suggestion to save time
>> otherwise v may become mad.
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 30/1/11, Govind... Hoping for better
>> <hopegovind@gmail.com>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to
>> Mumbai(500km.)
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 11:36 PM
>>
>>
>> Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act
>> and behaviour
>>
>> On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy
>> <sroy.mb@gmail.com<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, is the language "abusive" ?
>>
>> Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how
>> these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting
>> the boot" meant.
>>
>> Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against
>> one's inferiors.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta
>> <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in<http://in.mc946.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be
>> used by a gentleman.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ______________________________
>> *"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
>> But because of the silence of good people!"
>>
>> --Napoleon*
>>
>> *Govind*- 9960704146
>> URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
>> Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

If one goes through the same minutes, note that " In all cases digitized version would be retained." So the Commission is  on the safe side. However, as the Commission is a quasi judicial body, they will have to follow the procedure as adopted by other tribunals. CAT preserves them for nearly 20 years. The tribal issue a circular, asking advocates and all those interested, to come and inspect the files before they are destroyed. The files are later shredded and then recycled through the Min of Environment. Manoj --- On Mon, 1/31/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC? Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?   There seems to be all round confusion.   Hari Goyal   31.01.2011

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Bettiah, West Champaran, Bihar

Satish Prasad is a contact of mine in Motihari . He can be contacted at 09470234097.

 

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Older content at http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org

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From: afroz sahil <afroz.alam.sahil@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 11:57:44 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Bettiah, West Champaran, Bihar

Hi all,

       Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Bettiah, West Champaran, Bihar with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.

Thanks...
--

AFROZ ALAM 'SAHIL'
(Sr. Correspondent & RTI Desk Incharge)
UNI Television, Rafi Marg, New Delhi-01.
Mobile:-+91-9891322178

Blog: http://suchnaexpress.blogspot.com

About me:-  http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/the-unstoppable-rti-maverick

 

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Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC?

---

From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

Dear Mr. Roy,
 
Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?
 
I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me information within 10 days
but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also.
The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr. Wajahat Habibullah and his successor
Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order of 31st March, 2009?
 
Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing has been fixed. There is no hope for next
2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?  

There seems to be all round confusion.
 
Hari Goyal  
31.01.2011
 
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months
> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be destroyed.
>
> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).
>
> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.
>
> Sarbajit

RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

Dear Mr. Roy,
 
Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the satisfaction of the appellant?
 
I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me information within 10 days
but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also.
The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr. Wajahat Habibullah and his successor
Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order of 31st March, 2009?
 
Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing has been fixed. There is no hope for next
2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?  

There seems to be all round confusion.
 
Hari Goyal  
31.01.2011
 
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months
> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be destroyed.
>
> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).
>
> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.
>
> Sarbajit

[HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be destroyed.

(Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).

Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.

Sarbajit

[HumJanenge] IMPORTANT MAIL: Group moderating policy for February 2011

To all dear H-J members,

In past 1 month the moderators are focussed on maintaining 300 email limit to this group. In January 2011 about 564 emails were posted to group and 296 emails have been circulated / allowed so far.

To ensure that nobody complains that dissenting emails are not censor, only crticising emails were allowed. This has given wrong impression that 1 senior moderator has no supporters.

We are also seeing that HJ-GG is #1 RTI e-group. RTI4EMPOWERMENT-GG is #2 e-group in terms of messages posted. So from next month (1, FEBRUARY 2011) there will be some new procedures to ensure that there is full and balanced discussion.

1) ONLY THOSE MEMBERS WHO CONSISTENTLY CONTRIBUTE POSITIVE OR IMPORTANT MESSAGE POSTS ON RTI WILL BE RETAINED ON THIS GROUP.

2) MEMBERS WHO CROSSPOST SHALL BE EXPELLED WITHOUT NOTICE.

S.D. Sharma

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:31 AM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

U R talking about the support, now members do not want to waste their time on this as it is useless.

 

God knows who are Ssarkara Saints and who r govt. stooges.  Wrong statement that 250 members have supported the proposed statement. S R has recommended to limit words to even 150 words rather 250.  I suggest to recommend '0' word, except address and applicant contact details.  What is your opinion, Roy Sahib.?    I demand to change the name of this grp as Tantrums of S Roy.  It seems that Mr. Wajahat Habibullah rightly call him a great entertainer.   Stop yourselves from giving or reacting to his suggestion to save time otherwise v may become mad.    --- On Sun, 30/1/11, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote: From: Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.) To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 11:36 PM Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act and behaviour On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Firstly, is the language "abusive" ? Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting the boot" meant. Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against one's inferiors. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.  -- ______________________________ "The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people!" --Napoleon Govind- 9960704146 URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

[HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Bettiah, West Champaran, Bihar

Hi all,

       Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Bettiah, West Champaran, Bihar with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.

Thanks...
--

AFROZ ALAM 'SAHIL'
(Sr. Correspondent & RTI Desk Incharge)
UNI Television, Rafi Marg, New Delhi-01.
Mobile:-+91-9891322178

Blog: http://suchnaexpress.blogspot.com

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[HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

hi,   some points to be made  in SHORT   1 all over the world, there are people/countries  visibly expressing resentment of LEADERS exploiting them-  cairo, arab world, swiss banks, wikileads, etc 2. even here there are sporadic outbursts of resentment of leaders including the groups headed by I AM HONEST but DONT ASK ME ABOUT MY ASSOCIATES impotent men. 3. we have the villains holding out agitation WE OPPPOSE CORRUPTION in the parliament and assemblies. 4. we had a demonstration last in Bangalore AGAINST CORRUPTION.   Now we the GANDHIGIRIS should start a OPEN BUNDH, where we will ask everybody, all establlishments, offices, business houses to NOT CLOSE but OPEN on a PRESC RIBED HOLIDAY. 5. on this day every person who is PROTESTING CORRUPTION AND PUNISHMENT TO THE CORRUPT come out with a expression of banner, arm band,, hand bill any thing THEY CAN THINK OF.   6. Let us NOT DISRUPT the country, but ERUPT the SPIRIT OF SILENT PROTEST- in a GANDHI WAy,  GANDHI SPIRIT.   To finalise THIS can we have some voices. to arrange a meeting. where we forget OUR EGOS, and be one amonst all.   You have the right to be silent.   GANDHIGIRI

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

U R talking about the support, now members do not want to waste their time on this as it is useless. God knows who are Ssarkara Saints and who r govt. stooges.  Wrong statement that 250 members have supported the proposed statement. S R has recommended to limit words to even 150 words rather 250.  I suggest to recommend '0' word, except address and applicant contact details.  What is your opinion, Roy Sahib.?    I demand to change the name of this grp as Tantrums of S Roy.  It seems that Mr. Wajahat Habibullah rightly call him a great entertainer.   Stop yourselves from giving or reacting to his suggestion to save time otherwise v may become mad.    --- On Sun, 30/1/11, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote: From: Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.) To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 30 January, 2011, 11:36 PM Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act and behaviour On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Firstly, is the language "abusive" ? Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting the boot" meant. Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against one's inferiors. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.  -- ______________________________ "The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people, But because of the silence of good people!" --Napoleon Govind- 9960704146 URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata

Dear Ashokjee,

Here are the contact details: 

Shri Amitabhjee - 09433707624 

Please give reference of Shri somnath Pyne.

In case of any problem contact

RTI helpline - 09924085000 (11 to 6 pm, Mon to Sat)

RTI Helpline Gujarat Team

2011/1/29 Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com>

Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
Thanks,
Ashok
 

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Re: [HumJanenge] Proposed change in RTI Act

Yes, we all know about this by now. This is contained in the DoPT's comments to some half baked comments which Ms Aruna Roy and her gang of incompetent foreign financed sarkari stooges sent from the NAC.

This is a welcome development. The members of this group have supported this overwhelmingly and over 250 HJ members had sent emails to DoPT supporting the proposal to limit word count to 250 words etc. In fact we had demanded that it be reduced to 150 words after citing the legal basis.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Sumit Jha <sumitjha5@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Members,

I came to know that the Ministry of Personnel & Training, GoI, which oversees the implementation of RTI Act is proposing a change in the format of RTI Application. As per information, the application should only be given in 250 words excluding addresses of PIO and Applicant. If there is more words than 250, the first 250 words would be considered by the PIO for reply.

This is for information and discussion.

Thanks & Regards

Sumit Jha

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

Nobody has come in your support in entire group..you must analyse your act and behaviour

On 30 January 2011 23:21, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Firstly, is the language "abusive" ?

Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting the boot" meant.

Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against one's inferiors.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.

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______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"

--Napoleon

Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

[HumJanenge] Proposed change in RTI Act

Dear Members,

I came to know that the Ministry of Personnel & Training, GoI, which oversees the implementation of RTI Act is proposing a change in the format of RTI Application. As per information, the application should only be given in 250 words excluding addresses of PIO and Applicant. If there is more words than 250, the first 250 words would be considered by the PIO for reply.

This is for information and discussion.

Thanks & Regards

Sumit Jha

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

Firstly, is the language "abusive" ?

Secondly, although I prefer to use the term "booted off", seeing as how these were 'bhookey nangey log", some of them would not know what "getting the boot" meant.

Thirdly, it is the mark of a gentleman to use offensive language against one's inferiors.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

This is your defend

You cannot deny the fact that then and now your language is most inappropriate. Anyway, this forum you should not use to defend yourself or to threat RTI activist and every single citizen using RTI for public cause is an RTI activist, at least citizen with fundamental rights guaranteed by our constitution

On 30 January 2011 23:16, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Gobind

You are completely misinformed about the facts of the HumJanenge groups. I can assure you that Mr Shailesh Gandhi was never an owner / moderator of HJ (unlike me). It is also incorrect to say that I was kicked off the group. In fact I am still a member of the HJ-YG group, and it was mutually agreed between me and PMK that I would stop posting to that group using my then public ID (which was then sroy1947@yahoo.c..).

The RTI_India Yahoo group was also begun with the full knowledge and participation of PMK (he was a moderator too), so that many people on HJ who were not from Maharashtra or did not subscribe to the blinkered view of RTI being agitated by persons like Shailesh Gandhi or Shahid Burney etc could evolve their own interpretations of the Act.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Roy,

If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?

About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.

Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.

This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.


Regards
Govind

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______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"

--Napoleon

Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

Dear Gobind

You are completely misinformed about the facts of the HumJanenge groups. I can assure you that Mr Shailesh Gandhi was never an owner / moderator of HJ (unlike me). It is also incorrect to say that I was kicked off the group. In fact I am still a member of the HJ-YG group, and it was mutually agreed between me and PMK that I would stop posting to that group using my then public ID (which was then sroy1947@yahoo.c..).

The RTI_India Yahoo group was also begun with the full knowledge and participation of PMK (he was a moderator too), so that many people on HJ who were not from Maharashtra or did not subscribe to the blinkered view of RTI being agitated by persons like Shailesh Gandhi or Shahid Burney etc could evolve their own interpretations of the Act.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Roy,

If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?

About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.

Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.

This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.


Regards
Govind

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata

Mr. Sarabjit,

No need to be Government Spokesperson. Everybody knows the proposed amendment is to make RTI Act weak so people must not be able to seek transparency.

If somebody has fear, can ask people from other state to help

On 30 January 2011 23:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

What is this nonsense about "risk" ? If you are scared then please don't file RTIs.

How can you ask someone else to take risk on your behalf ? Finally, it is
precisely because of such "risky" RTIs that the Govt plans to dilute the RTI Act
or its Rules to the detriment of genuine information seekers, and is defaming
us by calling us blackmailers and vexatious 'activists".

You are also advised to read the regulations of this group. Particularly about
fostering brotherly feelings between RTI users and organising collective action
through emails.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

Friends, Will it be more risk free and will it be more meaningful, if a directory of RTI Activists, throughtout India is compiled by some one and each active RTI organisation of each state have a copy of this information.   Any application which is risky and needs co-operation, each associations in each State can also apply to the same informatin which is being pursued by the peson under risk so that his risk is totally reduced if not avoided.   The suggestion can be considered properly and without bindings. Regafrds, dwarakanathdm,nbca

2011/1/29 Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com>

Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
Thanks,
Ashok
 

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______________________________
"The world suffers a lot. Not because of the violence of bad people,
But because of the silence of good people!"

--Napoleon

Govind- 9960704146
URL: http://www.wix.com/hopegovind/homepage
Blog: http://simplygovind.blogspot.com

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata

What is this nonsense about "risk" ? If you are scared then please don't file RTIs.

How can you ask someone else to take risk on your behalf ? Finally, it is
precisely because of such "risky" RTIs that the Govt plans to dilute the RTI Act
or its Rules to the detriment of genuine information seekers, and is defaming
us by calling us blackmailers and vexatious 'activists".

You are also advised to read the regulations of this group. Particularly about
fostering brotherly feelings between RTI users and organising collective action
through emails.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:

Friends, Will it be more risk free and will it be more meaningful, if a directory of RTI Activists, throughtout India is compiled by some one and each active RTI organisation of each state have a copy of this information.   Any application which is risky and needs co-operation, each associations in each State can also apply to the same informatin which is being pursued by the peson under risk so that his risk is totally reduced if not avoided.   The suggestion can be considered properly and without bindings. Regafrds, dwarakanathdm,nbca

2011/1/29 Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com>

Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
Thanks,
Ashok
 

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Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata

Friends, Will it be more risk free and will it be more meaningful, if a directory of RTI Activists, throughtout India is compiled by some one and each active RTI organisation of each state have a copy of this information.   Any application which is risky and needs co-operation, each associations in each State can also apply to the same informatin which is being pursued by the peson under risk so that his risk is totally reduced if not avoided.   The suggestion can be considered properly and without bindings. Regafrds, dwarakanathdm,nbca

2011/1/29 Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com>

Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
Thanks,
Ashok
 

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Re: [RTI INDIA] Role of RCS in Cooperative Group Housing Societies

Hello

If u have complaint against society then give complaint against such society. then ask to registrar in RTI what happen and which papers you collected in such complaint .

Adv.Abhay Patil
Pachora.424201.
mob-9423161993

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From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
To: gargighosh@yahoo.co.in
Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; RTI India <rti_india@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 12:36:55 PM
Subject: [RTI INDIA] Role of RCS in Cooperative Group Housing Societies

Dear RTI Activists,
 
In continuation of my request for information, in reply to my RTI application ID no. 10393 dated 30.12.2010, to RCS, GNCTD, I havge received a reply as follows:
 
"You have requested to provide photocopies of affidavits submitted by 79 members of the Society to the President of the Society who in turn submitted
 to RCS before final drw of lots of flats.  The infomation pertains to Society record. The Society is not a public authority, hence your application
cannot be forwarded to society to provide you the information."
 
MY question is:
 
1. Is Registrar of Cooperative Societies, Govt. of NCT of De3lhi is not a public Authority? If it is, I have asked for information
which is with this Public Authority?   I have never said that you forward my RTI application to the Society.   
 
2. Is RCS office has no role to play as regards monitoring the activities of the Societies and seek RCS  permission by se3nding relevant documents including 
    members' affidavits for final darw of lots?
 
3.  I was the 80th member who was not allotted the flat. No reason is given by the RCS or the President of the Society
 
4.  If RCS has no role, why 27 Coop. Group housing Socieites of Dwarka which held  the draw themselves as RCS is not ready to send its representative 
    for the draw, should be given any notice for legal action against them? RCS is not ready to send its nominee for the draw despite Delhi High Court
    Orders and instructions of the Cheif Minister of Delhi.
 
On hearing from RTI activists, I shall give immense material of corrupt practices to the Movement of RTI as well as Fight against Corruption or
India Against Corruption the subject of todays' RALLIES all over India. 
 
JAI HIND
 
Hari Goyal
former Professor of Economics, LBS National
Academy of Administration, Mussaoorie (U.P.)
011- 2508 2239  

[RTI INDIA] Role of RCS in Cooperative Group Housing Societies

Dear RTI Activists,
 
In continuation of my request for information, in reply to my RTI application ID no. 10393 dated 30.12.2010, to RCS, GNCTD, I havge received a reply as follows:
 
"You have requested to provide photocopies of affidavits submitted by 79 members of the Society to the President of the Society who in turn submitted
 to RCS before final drw of lots of flats.  The infomation pertains to Society record. The Society is not a public authority, hence your application
cannot be forwarded to society to provide you the information."
 
MY question is:
 
1. Is Registrar of Cooperative Societies, Govt. of NCT of De3lhi is not a public Authority? If it is, I have asked for information
which is with this Public Authority?   I have never said that you forward my RTI application to the Society.   
 
2. Is RCS office has no role to play as regards monitoring the activities of the Societies and seek RCS  permission by se3nding relevant documents including 
    members' affidavits for final darw of lots?
 
3.  I was the 80th member who was not allotted the flat. No reason is given by the RCS or the President of the Society
 
4.  If RCS has no role, why 27 Coop. Group housing Socieites of Dwarka which held  the draw themselves as RCS is not ready to send its representative 
    for the draw, should be given any notice for legal action against them? RCS is not ready to send its nominee for the draw despite Delhi High Court
    Orders and instructions of the Cheif Minister of Delhi.
 
On hearing from RTI activists, I shall give immense material of corrupt practices to the Movement of RTI as well as Fight against Corruption or
India Against Corruption the subject of todays' RALLIES all over India. 
 
JAI HIND
 
Hari Goyal
former Professor of Economics, LBS National
Academy of Administration, Mussaoorie (U.P.)
011- 2508 2239  

Re:: [HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge

Thanks to all activitis and wish their best performances
S D Banerjee

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:31 IST RTI UNITY wrote:

>Dear members
>
>Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days
>on the Google platform.
>During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and
>widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.
>Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project
>
>PMK1504
>Veeresh
>Sarbajit
>Ashish
>Sharmaji
>Raminder
>"Col X"
>and so many others

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Activists in Kolkata

There is Mrs. Gargi Ghosh, West Bengal Administrative Training
Institute, Kolkatta, she can tell who else are actively working int
RTI. Her email is
gargighosh1@yahoo.co.in .

Pralhad Kachare

On 29/01/2011, Ashok R. Mansata <ashokaol@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,Can someone please suggest the name of any RTI expert in Kolkata with
> whom I can discuss some RTI related issues.
> Thanks,
> Ashok
>
>
>
>
>

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Director, Center for Public Policy,
YASHADA, Rajbhavan Complex,Baner Road, Pune-411007.02025608146, 9422750464

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

I am pleased with your effort and mission. Please let me know to join you at that point because I will have to come from Gurgaon.   Regards, H.R. Bangia, Hony. Secretary, IIPA Haryana Regional Branch, And Consumer Affairs Activist, B-71A GF, Platinum Independent Floors, Ardee City, Gurgaon-122011 Mob.09811326670 --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Pratibha Shinde <loksamanway@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pratibha Shinde <loksamanway@gmail.com> Subject: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.) To: aartiware@gmail.com, aasara.india@yahoo.com, acesndt@gmail.com, adm@sadhana-village.org, ajit_bansode001@yahoo.co.in, aksharvidya@gmail.com, alka_smile@rediffmail.com, amodkatdare@gmail.com, amol_namjoshi@rediffmail.com, andolan.napm@gmail.com, "Anil Bornare" <anilbornare@gmail.com>, anildabke50@gmail.com, aniljadhav.95@rediffmail.com, anilkadam7711@yahoo.co.in, anilsingh2005@rediffmail.com, anjalimaydeo@gmail.com, "Anjela Taneja" <anjela_taneja@yahoo.com>, Anjor30@gmail.com, ansari.fauziya@gmail.com, anthra.pune@gmail.com, aparna.chaudhari08@gmail.com, aptesangharsh@yahoo.com, arcpune09@gmail.com, arogyasathi@gmail.com, arogyasathi@rediffmail.com, arunasandeep@yahoo.com, arunlohakare@yahoo.co.in, "arvind vaidya" <arvindvaidya0303@gmail.com>, aseng_p2br@hotmail.com, asha.deshpande@gmail.com, ashish.shelar@yahoo.com, ashpen6@gmail.com, "Asim Sarode" <asim.human@gmail.com>, asmaeindia@asmae.fr, asmaemh@asmae.fr, "asmita huddar" <asmitahuddar1@yahoo.com>, asmitarr@gmail.com, asvssindia@gmail.com, "Aswini Kulkarni" <pragati.abhiyan@gmail.com>, atreaditi@gmail.com, "Atul Kulkarni" <kkatul@gmail.com>, avehiabacus@gmail.com, avinash.madhale@ceeindia.org, awmh@rediffmail.com, ayazsangrar@hotmail.com, balbhavan@snehalaya.org, balkalyansanstha@gmail.com, balprafulta@gmail.com, balprafulta@hotmail.com, bhagwan.k@yuvaindia.org, bhagyashree.kavthekar@gmail.com, "Bhagyashri Kulthe" <b_kulthe@rediffmail.com>, bhuwan.ribhu@gmail.com, "Bimla Chandrasekar" <mdu_ekta@rediffmail.com>, bshashi446@yahoo.co.in, caashima@gmail.com, cehat@vsnl.com, chairman@msbshse.ac.in, "Chandrahas Deshpande" <dchandrahas@gmail.com> Cc: "Manisha Gupte" <manishagupte@gmail.com>, "Anwar Rajan" <rajanaaa@gmail.com>, "Lata Jadhav" <latajadhav47@gmail.com>, "MILIND CHAVAN" <milindc70@rediffmail.com>, "Suhasini Mulay" <suhasini.mulay@gmail.com>, "Neera Adarkar" <adarkars@gmail.com>, "Vijaya Chauhan" <vijaya.chauhan@gmail.com>, "Varsha" <varsharb@gmail.com>, "Vijayan MJ" <vijayanmj@gmail.com>, "Jatin Desai" <jatindesai123@gmail.com>, "Lollyramu Ramdas" <lramdas@gmail.com>, "sanjeevani kher" <sanjeevanikher@yahoo.co.in>, "Varsha V. V." <dostitrust@yahoo.co.in>, "asad binsaif" <in_face2001@yahoo.co.in>, "Ernest Deenadayalan Deenadayalan" <ddaaron@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 8:48 AM   Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai (500km) for the Right to Jal, Jungle, Jamin & Natural Resources     Dear Friend, Zindabad !!   Tribal on North Maharastra has decided to make their protest at Mumbay in the front of assembly seeking relief and the fast implementation of Forest rights act, 2006 under the banner of Lok Sangharsh Morcha. About  5 thousand tribal men and women along with their children will be marching from Nandurbar to Mumbai by walk (Padyatra) with the distance of 500km from 1st March,2011. Padyatra will reach Mumbai on 15th of March,20011. Hundreds of public meetings will be planned on the way during the Yatra at several places to get endorsement of public/ civil society. Volunteers and a team of Doctors are also accompanied with the Yatra. Different mass organizations, political leaders, intellectuals and social activists will join them during the Yatra. We are highly obliged if you make your valuable support to the struggle by joining us, by sending volunteers/ cultural teams, through publication materials, vehicles or in any other form you can consider better. Pl. see the attachment.   Thanks, Regards, Pratibha Shinde Lok Sangharsh Morcha

Re: [HumJanenge] 111 days of HumJanenge

it is very much needed as miscreatns have started shooting at( Lucknow).

At the same time I suggest that we must forms groups on soil at every subdivision of the country so that we can express a interstate solidarity.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:08:46 +0530 wrote
>Dear members



Today, 29.Jan.2011 the HumJanenge group celebrates auspicious 111 days

on the Google platform.

During this brief period "HJ" has become India's most outspoken and

widely read RTI group with a broad and eclectic membership.

Thanks and blessings go out to everyone involved in the RTI Unity project



PMK1504

Veeresh

Sarbajit

Ashish

Sharmaji

Raminder

"Col X"

and so many others

Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.)

Mr M K Gupta .

 

perhaps you do not know that sarbajit roy is not a gentlman .. secondly Sarabjit always uses his mother tongue to write his emails . so plz do not try to stp him from using words like "Haramis" and Sixers etc.

After all he has full rights to use his mother tongue.

 

Sarbajit plz do not worry . I love you so much .

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Roy,

If you kick me off..nothing wrong will happen to me. I don't want any self publicity and I never intend to do so either. The language you have used is offensive. About Humjanenge group, you have to also accept that you have created this group for self publicity as original HumJanenge Group was on Yahoo and Started by late Shri Prakash Kardlay and Shri Shailesh Gandhi and many other prominent RTI activisit and citizen were there. If you remember you were "kicked off" from that group.
About other details, my contact no. and everything is part of my mail signature and why should I change it for you?

About purpose of the group, if you are really intend to discuss only decision of SIC/CIC you should have kept the messaging option in such a way that only after your approval mail posting would have been possible. You are self not adhering to group policy.

Whether it is lady or gentlemen you should not use such language which is not appropriate at all.

This is really sad to see such attitude from you. You must apologize for using such language to the lady. If she and her NGO think 500 KMs is long march there is nothing wrong. Mao itself has never defined the long march distances. For poor Adivasis for their rights, it might be long march.


Regards
Govind

On 29 January 2011 14:23, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Do u think "Bakwaas Email" and "kick you off" type language should be used by a gentleman.  --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Chalo Assembly- Long March from Nandurbar to Mumbai(500km.) To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 2:05 PM Dear Govind I am now a moderator of this group. I am responsible for seeing that rules are adhered to and enforced. When people disregard our rules, I use language appropriate to their offence. The only reason I was not firmer with Ms. Pratiha was because she is a lady. Incidentally, you are also hereby cautioned that self-publicity is against this group's regulations. Kindly modify your signature while posting to this list. Warmly Sarbajit On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Govind... Hoping for better <hopegovind@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sarabjit, I don't think the language you have used is appropriate On 29 January 2011 10:02, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Pratibha When you describe your 500 km procession as a "Long March" you insult the memory of a great leader and his brave comrades during their long retreat. It is precisely because of such bakwaas emails (which incidentally has nothing to do with RTI) from NGOs promoting their programs that our members request to leave this group (see email from saikatd). Hence we have decided to kick you off this group for insulting the memory of a great leader and military strategist. Sarbajit Moderator

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