Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Good response I expected it,"ulta chor kotwal ko dante" ap sab paki pakai khana chahte hain. First go to villages n do some good work n than come back to discuss party formation otherwise u know what kind of replies u r getting on this blog which is very true. On 1st dec there is a rally of ex-servicemen movement n let us meet there to know how many men are supporting u. I m a very active member of IAC n what I said is only the fact of the present time n the movement , to win a battle u must know ur own weaknesses.
From: rs chhikara <chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.
 

I do not know the background of this Jai Prakash Narain. But I do understand  from his response that h has been completely defeated by life or else he is completely sold out to some interest who want India to remain hopeless.

Good luck to him . He wants to do nothing and dos not want any one else to do anything. How negative can one be?

Chhikara

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Today I attended a meeting of Mr Devender yadav a associate of Mr kejeriwal to promote their political ambitions n ideology. It was basically a philosophical speech about their future party n its ideology to a limited extent only n with no substance, but he was very clear in his mind that they may not get even a single seat in their first election n knowing the psych of the Indian people he seems to be right. If u go to the villages n talk to the people there u may find the same thing n may even realize that they are enjoying the corruption part. Can any of u go to  the villages where 70%  of our population live n convince them on ur anticorruption ideology I doubt. Gen V K is trying to find a foot hold in some party n proved himself a weak person in fighting for his DOB a very minor issue. U make ur own party n your own E S M may not vote for u. So what the alternative, pl go to ur villages n live with them n try to improve upon their way of life as done by Anna may be u get some following n than move forward. Living in air-conditioned houses in Gurgaon, Noida or Mumbai may not help u in forming a new party. What ever crowd pulling is done by Anna or Kejeriwal is all from the city n that's why he is trying his luck first in Delhi but would not able to convert them into votes, since their ideology is totally based on communism which has already rejected by the people in this country, This whole exercise is nothing but another political stunt to gain power through a very old issue of corruption n I have not much hope from them, since they have failed to get even 100 honest people in the country. Pl think over it n than proceed n in a more systematic n planned manner. Good luck to u all.
From: Col Thakur Singh mailto:thakursinghk@gmail.%20com
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in; israel@jayakaran.com  
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.
  

Dear Col jayakaran and All,

Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and unite the ESM who are already associated  with other  Pol Parties (corrupt) .

I attended  a pgm conducted by Sw. Ram Dev at Haridwar, where he is forming the village /District committees which I found a very difficult task.

Therefore I also feel , that Infact we need to tie up with the suggested honest leaders so that the ESM particularly participate in the forthcoming Gen Elections by showing our solidarity . 

while forming village committees , I tried to persuade people to support and  file nominations in HP  for VS / MLA Elections on behalf of, " Jansangh Party"** but for paucity of time as also the people having been aligned with BJP / CONGRESS , most of them declined support to a new org, hence I had no choice but to  drop the idea.

But need NOW - to strengthen ESM and others for GEN  ELECTIONS.

Kindly give your comments and authorise some one on behalf of the ESM ASSOCIATIONS  to liaison with Sw. Ram dev, Anna &Gen VK Singh / Kejariwal.

** Pol Party already Registered  with election commission of india, in 2009 by Wing Cdr Jai Sing,   is called "Jansangh Party" it has its branches in Gujrat & Andhra AND IN HP I am  creating it 

Wing Cdr JaI Singh's contact No:  Mob No is --919161754456

Warm Regards

Col Thakur Singh
9873379995


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brig Chhikara has given an excellent suggestion. We need to try out this new political and democratic set up under a new leader. Like the rest of the country, the ESM community can strengthen the hands of the established, capable, proven, very strong and selfless leader.

Jai Hind

Col Mahesh Khera

From: rs chhikara <chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Dear Jayakaran and friends

Our nation has lacked a strong and nationalistic leader . A leader who can inspire the nation and fix he crooks.
I feel that Narendra Modi is the only such leader in India today. Tried and tested.  Negative publicity spear headed by the Congress not withstanding. There are people within the BJP and part of RSS who also oppose his leadership because of their personal bloated  interests. Kejriwal, Anna or Ramdev will find it difficult to control the newly elected parliamentarians in the absence pf political experience .

There will be other communal interests which will try to work on the Muslim vote bank to corner their votes. 

Yet if he takes up he leadership challenge and is fully supported by Anna, Kejriwal, VK Singh, Ramdev and all of us he can save India from  our own band of  4000 thieves. I believe Anna and VK etc will agree. Providing him with candidates from among ESM and others is a good idea. There are others in the present lot of parliamentarians also who can join him regardless of their present affiliations. P A Sangma and Rajiv Chandra Shekhar are only two examples.

Will Modi rise to the Challenge ? It may be worth trying. Personally , I think he will. He can even purge the BJP just as Indira Gandhi did to the Congress in 1969. 

 Kindly consider this for what ever you think it is worth.

Regards

Brig R S Chhikara



From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 8:44 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Randhir,
 
        I have said so many times and I am repeating it here.  A. Hazare's mission of eradicating corruption through Lok Pal bill will not work at  all.  Our politicians are  experts at finding loopholes in any  law and make the law non-operational. If there are no loop holes,  they could also create a couple and completely kill the bill putting the country back in square one..
 
            I feel in ther  present scenario, the only way to clean up the dirty stables is to win the elections  with a thumping majority and run the land with a clean administration and  with clean people.  More Defence service oficers and others need to join politics.
 
        If Anna and Gen V.K.Singh and their team,  travel the length and breadth of the country promising the voters a selfless government,  a completely selfless one, people will believe them because Anna has a halo round his head. .  The current atmosphere is such that people are fed up both with the Congress and BJP.  They are looking for an altenative. But where is it? Anna, I believe, is that alternative.  He could be a father figure and need not enter politis himself.
 
      Will some 100 odd Defence people get together and persuade Anna to form a party - I have suggested the name HONEST PEOPLE'S PARTY and fight the 2013 elections.  My forecast is that HPP could easily win 500 odd seats.  Then Anna's party  could run the country according to its policies. Will you please think it over and take the initiative in this regard.  I am too old (86 yrs) to take any active part in this mission. However, I could provide the think tank.   
 
      Do respond to this mail.
 
      Regards,
 
                             Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals, veteran, Chennai.  (1947 batch)
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

the idea is laudable
 
let us create a team /representatives of like minded people , to start with, all those who have given their views , and make a determined effort to convince Anna and Arvind to forget the differences, bond and take the lead and extricate the nation from the muck we are in today 
 
bubbles 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems and appears that each one is a "pithoo" of some other, in the political field and out to protect his/her one flank or the other.

What and how much can we protect ourselves from the murky leadership all over corrupt or UN-corrupt?!
dev chopra
***


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Israel.,
This is a wonderful method. However, Anna has cocooned himself. I had written similarly many times to IAC for Anna to come out and field his candidates before its too late. People are looking for alternatives. Kejriwal will corner some seats but thats not enough. Further, he's silent about Sharad Pawar, which gives signal that perhaps he is being financed by him. We must find a very reliable person to go to his address and council him for a week. Then see what he says. Same with Baba Ramdev. he's a willing horse.
Bregs.
Joy.
 

From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: aswal.ps@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012 4:53 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

Dear friends,
 
          Will the method adopted by Kejriwal work? How many corrupt politicians is he going to expose?  Won't it take him decades to deal with thousands of thieves.What would be the result anyway. Exposure inpublic will bring about nothing. Will they get punished?  Who will punish them?.  True, their image will be tarnished.  But they couldn't care less about it.  They need money and they have it.
 
          The present method followed by IAC will not put an end to corruption.Never.  IAC is only barking at a dry tree.  I feel the only method is for Anna Hazaare to enter politics, fight the next 2014 election with him as the chair person., capture power  all by himself and clean the stable.  He can deal with the corrupt according to his way then.
 
            I am sure he can corner around 500 Lok Sabha seats if he travels the length and breadth of the counry in the next two years or so promising the people a clean and corruption free  administration  and make the quality of life of every citizen to a top order.An Indian will enjoy his rights as a citizen.  No one could rob it from him. Thisis what he needs to promise in his political speech all over theland. There are more and will be revealed later. Every Indian will feel proud then.  Today, we as Indians are a nobody.  We cannot excercise any right; for that matter we don't even know what our rights are. This should be assured to the people.  People will believe him because he has a halo round his head.
 
           He is worried about the finance.  I had suggested that anyone wanting to join his party, which may be called HONEST PEOPLE's party(HPP) would have to become a member by paying Rs. 50 per year. He must start on a recruitment drive and it won't be difficult to muster around 10 lakh members to start with;  the servicemen and exservicemen would be the prime members and his backbone as well.  The service personnel will gladly join.  His first round of collection may go up to Rs. 10 crore which is enough for his team to travel round. Remember, this is how NT Ramarao overthrew the giant congress in AP and  came to  power with absolute  majority some 30 years back. Why can't such a revolutionary wave take place on an all India basis?  The voters are fed up both with ther  Congress and BJP.  They are looking around for an alternative.  Where is that alternative?  HPP would be that party.
 
         I had made this suggestion to Anna but I wonder if his team had  put up my mail to him.  Certainly not. Would you please try and persuade him to lend his name for a political upheaval. He needs to be the father of the party and not head it as a future prime minister.
 
        Let us goad Anna to come out of his shell and form the party.  This is a better tool to fight corruption ad eliminate it than the one being followed now. 
 
        If you agree with my suggestion, please go ahead and set the ball rolling. You are welcome to exchange notes with me.
 
                              Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals,  Veteran, Chennai. 
 















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Re: [HumJanenge] Babus in black robes

Dear Sirs, FYI.
Competition commission of India ad for Appointment of One member as published in ToI dated 29.10.12. notable is " Every member shall be paid a consolidated monthly salary of Rupees Three Lakh twelve thousand five hundred only. They shall not be entitle to house and car." 
sir, it simply  means loot lo janta ko  by officially getting three times more post retirement  than the present day highest scale of pay.   thats the reason every day one/two/three commission or tribunal are  created for and by  the judges and babus.   rgds. beniwal 

From: Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.comoi
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Babus in black robes

Dear Mr Sarbajit,

Indeed an excellent analysis of the whole dismal uncontrolled scenario of sticking to greed even after retirement by both babus and judges and the nation can go to dogs. Seeing the rat race among retiring babus and increasingly judges now, others too want to make hay while the sun shines.

Your suggestion at the end is very laudable but who is going to even think of it, leave aside implementing it. Yes, if judges can set a fine personal example and PIL is filed, SC comes out with a judgement for the government that no retiring government servant will be inducted into any organization funded by the government and it is mandatory for every organization to create necessary infrastructure to deal with cases pertaining to their domains. May be there is/are better solution(s) and the serving persons can play a huge selfless role in bringing out these reforms. We need to quickly rid the government of unnecessary baggage. 
 
With warm regards,

Col Mahesh Khera

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:19 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Babus in black robes

Babus in black robes
The Supreme Court once again asserts judges' place in tribunals
M J Antony / New Delhi Oct 31, 2012, 00:31 IST

http://business-standard.com/india/news/m-j-antony-babus-in-black-robes/491154/

The angst over the imagined collapse of Right to Information (RTI)
commissions following the recent Supreme Court judgment is still
persisting. The government has filed a petition to review that
judgment in the case, Namit Sharma vs Union of India. The fear is that
a seat for judges in the RTI commissions will erode the independence
of these panels.

On the contrary, the Supreme Court thinks that judges' presence is
necessary for the sake of independence of judiciary. In a judgment
delivered earlier this month, the Supreme Court has asserted once
again the judges' role in tribunals, in the case, State of Gujarat vs
Gujarat Revenue Tribunal Bar Association.
Despite a series of well-reasoned judgments over the years, it seems
every quasi-judicial tribunal is destined to undergo teething troubles
with the same symptoms. The nagging issue in every law setting up
tribunals is the weight given to retired civil servants by draftsmen
in the ministries, elbowing out judges. Since tribunalisation is the
current trend – there are some 60 such panels – this has become a
recurring issue.

Civil servants argue that these tribunals, set up under Chapter XIV-A
of the Constitution, deal with technical subjects like electricity and
telecommunications and require expert knowledge not found in the
judicial fraternity. The answer given by judges several times over is
that deciding disputes is an adjudicatory function for which they are
more competent than bureaucrats. Judges claim a pedigree of deciding
highly specialised disputes involving patents (the Supreme Court has
been hearing the Novartis cancer medicine case for two months),
intricate financial scams and even religious doctrines.

In the RTI judgment, the Supreme Court asserted that lack of judicial
expertise in the commissions may render the decision-making process
"impracticable, inflexible and in given cases, contrary to law". It
cited more than a dozen leading judgments to emphasise the need for
judicial talent in adjudicatory bodies.

The latest judgment in the Gujarat Revenue Tribunal reiterates this
viewpoint. The Government of Gujarat, in exercise of its power under
the revenue tribunal rules, appointed the secretary to the state
government as the president of the Gujarat Revenue Tribunal. The
appointment was challenged in the high court by the bar association on
the ground that being a "judicial office", it could not be usurped by
a person who had been an administrative officer all his life. The
validity of the rules was also challenged.

The high court held that the tribunal was, in the strict sense, a
"court", and that the president, who presides over such body could,
therefore, be only a "judicial officer", a district judge or a person
with judicial background for whose appointment concurrence of the high
court is necessary under Article 234 of the Constitution. The state
government, therefore, appealed to the Supreme Court without success.

The Supreme Court went into the history of the law. In 1939, the
president of the revenue tribunal was selected from the judicial
cadre. An amendment in 1941 continued with the emphasis on judicial
experience. It was only in 1957 that the bureaucrats nudged out the
judges — the new rule provided that a secretary to the state
government could chair the tribunal. No prize for guessing who
introduced this quiet but substantial change without giving any reason
for upsetting the hoary tradition.

Upholding the high court's view, the Supreme Court reiterated its
well-known stand. "Adjudicatory functions," it said, "should be left
to those with judicial background. It is indisputable that courts
belong to the judicial hierarchy and constitute the country's
judiciary as distinct from the executive or legislative branches of
the state. Judicial functions involve the decision of rights and
liabilities of the parties. An enquiry and investigation into facts is
a material part of judicial function. The legislature, in its wisdom
has created tribunals and transferred the work which was regularly
done by the civil courts to them, as it was found necessary to do so
in order to provide efficacious remedy and also to reduce the burden
on the civil courts and further, also to save the aggrieved person
from bearing the burden of heavy court fees etc."

Since almost every law setting up tribunals suffers constitutional
birth pangs of this kind, and the law-makers look askance at the
Supreme Court judgments, an amendment to Chapter XIV-A of the
Constitution might be necessary to avoid future tug of wars. That is,
if there is a functioning Parliament.

The story of the administrative tribunals, the Competition Commission
of India and the National Tax Appellate Tribunal, are typical of the
draftsmen creating unnecessary litigation up to the apex level. The
government and administrators must spend their energy more on creating
adequate infrastructure and working conditions for the tribunals (some
of them have functioned from Ambassador cars and guest houses) instead
of tweaking rules to wear a judicial hat after retirement.




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Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Mathre

If we were to unsubscribe every one who posts nonsense to this group
then we would have nobody left to post (except me of course).

This is a discussion list, so If anybody has anything to say
specifically about any specific nonsense posted to this list, then
discuss that instead of making general and vague statements. In other
words "Play the ball and not the man".

I also want to clarify one thing. The government is becoming
increasingly fascist and intolerant of free speech. Last month our
other mailing list was taken down by government hackers within 12
hours because I wrote something about the personal life of a NAC
member. Similarly the IAC mailing list was taken down by the same team
of government hackers using another method when they got something
published about Mr. Pulok Chatterjee who is very close to NAC
Chairperson. So as a courtesy to IAC we are allowing them to post a
little bit to HJ mailing list while their own mailing list is being
rebuilt. We are also collaborating on list security to weed out dummy
email IDs used by hackers which are being used to spam and bring down
our mutual lists etc etc.

Sarbajit

On 11/1/12, Mathre Rangarajan <rangajan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why HumJanenge@googlegroups.com has allowed
> IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com> to be a member of our
> group and allowed it to post all 'nonsense' and wast our time and patence?
> Can't it be 'un-subscribed' and save us the daily agony?
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com>
>>To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:21 AM
>>Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.
>>
>>
>>Dear Colonels
>>
>>You are all very "senior" people, so kindly listen to the voice of the
>> "young india".
>>
>>@ Your "new political setup for India" is simply OLD WINE in OLD BOTTLES.
>> The only places for disposing old bottles is as scrap, and for old wine is
>> in gutter.
>>
>>@ Bootlicking culture in "loser" colonels does not seem to have improved.
>> See how you are still chasing after some authority figure like Narendra
>> Modi so you can become junior Hitlers (who was actually only a corporal)
>> who can say "but, we were only following orders".
>>
>>@ At one time Greece was ruled by a junta of 7 colonels. They all ended
>> fighting each other and today Greece is biggest basket case in whole of
>> Europe.
>>
>>@ instead of wasting your time in politics, please take up some useful
>> sport, look after your dogs, grandkids etc, or simply do anything to
>> ensure that you are as far away from the "better half" as possible and can
>> pretend that you are still useful.
>>
>>@ Let us youngsters clean up the mess your generation has created.
>>
>>IAC is searching for old wine who can take directions and execute without
>> questions or supervision.
>>
>>Ajay
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Joyprakash Chhetry
>> <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dear Cols. Israel Jaikaran, Thakur Singh, Mahesh Khera, Brig. Chikarra, Wg
>> Cdrs. Jai Singh & Jal Singh,
>>>
>>>Getting together means getting together from this humble togetherness of
>>> the 7 of us to start with. I dont crave for any post as I have seen many
>>> and tasted as I am from a political family both from my and my wife's
>>> side. I have hobnobbed with a young Indira Gandhi when I was a uniformed
>>> Pilot Officer attending parties at Rashtrapati Bhawan and PM's House. My
>>> craze for flying was all I dreamt about and I had my heartful of that.
>>>I have been a great admirer of Narendra Modi and attended his very
>>> impressive Gujrat Gaurav. He was addressing the whole of USA via sat. in
>>> June this year and I had just reached Phoenix. I attended the same. I had
>>> sent some write ups to him earlier as to why he should be the PM. I asked
>>> him as to what were the ways in which we could help him achieve it. The
>>> questions were too many, so it was left to the local press to field such
>>> questions and answers. A clip of my question-answer was recorded. I could
>>> send later.
>>>I have a very good civilian friend who is also very interested in the
>>> field of Aviation. He is getting a ticket to stand for the coming
>>> elections by Modi's party. I could request him to let us know as to how
>>> we could go about being the catalyst force to see him as PM. Afterall,
>>> what he can visualise with all his experience will not match our combined
>>> thinking. If the guidance is forthcoming then we could work towards that
>>> goal in order to eliminate the rot of our great nation. We can stop the
>>> repression from within and the encouragement provided to nefarious
>>> Indians and foreigners to exploit us.
>>> Joy Chhetry, Pali Hill, Mumbai.
>>>
>>>Ex Sqn Ldr. Veteran 1965 & 71 Indo-Pak war
>>>M AeSI, M FAST, M PCGT, BMIR (Pune Univ)
>>>President : Take-Off-Team & Adv. in India & USA
>>>Author : A Complete Guide to Comm. Pilot Licence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in;
>>> israel@jayakaran.com
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Col jayakaran and All,
>>>
>>>
>>>Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an
>>> innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and
>>> unite the ESM who are already associated with other Pol Parties
>>> (corrupt) .
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Why HumJanenge@googlegroups.com has allowed 
 IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com> to be a member of our group and allowed it to post all 'nonsense' and wast our time and patence? Can't it be 'un-subscribed' and save us the daily agony?

From: IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Colonels

You are all very "senior" people, so kindly listen to the voice of the "young india".

@ Your "new political setup for India" is simply OLD WINE in OLD BOTTLES. The only places for disposing old bottles is as scrap, and for old wine is in gutter.

@ Bootlicking culture in "loser" colonels does not seem to have improved. See how you are still chasing after some authority figure like Narendra Modi so you can become junior Hitlers (who was actually only a corporal) who can say "but, we were only following orders".

@ At one time Greece was ruled by a junta of 7 colonels. They all ended fighting each other and today Greece is biggest basket case in whole of Europe.

@ instead of wasting your time in politics, please take up some useful sport, look after your dogs, grandkids etc, or simply do anything to ensure that you are as far away from the "better half" as possible and can pretend that you are still useful.

@ Let us youngsters clean up the mess your generation has created.

IAC is searching for old wine who can take directions and execute without questions or supervision.

Ajay

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Cols. Israel Jaikaran, Thakur Singh, Mahesh Khera, Brig. Chikarra, Wg Cdrs. Jai Singh & Jal Singh,
Getting together means getting together from this humble togetherness of the 7 of us to start with. I dont crave for any post as I have seen many and tasted as I am from a political family both from my and my wife's side. I have hobnobbed with a young Indira Gandhi when I was a uniformed Pilot Officer attending parties at Rashtrapati Bhawan and PM's House. My craze for flying was all I dreamt about  and I had my heartful of that.
I have been a great admirer of Narendra Modi and attended his very impressive  Gujrat Gaurav. He was addressing the whole of USA via sat. in June this year and I had just reached Phoenix. I attended the same. I had sent some write ups to him earlier as to why he should be the PM. I asked him as to what were the ways in which we could help him achieve it. The questions were too many, so it was left to the local press to field such questions and answers. A clip of my question-answer was recorded. I could send later.
I have a very good civilian friend who is also very interested in the field of Aviation. He is getting a ticket to stand for the coming elections by Modi's party. I could request him to let us know as to how we could go about being the catalyst force to see him as PM. Afterall, what he can visualise with all his experience will not match our combined thinking. If the guidance is forthcoming then we could work towards that goal in order to eliminate the rot of our great nation. We can stop the repression from within and the encouragement provided to nefarious Indians and foreigners to exploit us.
 Joy Chhetry, Pali Hill, Mumbai.
Ex Sqn Ldr. Veteran 1965 & 71 Indo-Pak war
M AeSI, M FAST, M PCGT, BMIR (Pune Univ)
President : Take-Off-Team & Adv. in India & USA
Author : A Complete Guide to Comm. Pilot Licence
 

From: Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com>

To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in; israel@jayakaran.com
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Col jayakaran and All,

Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and unite the ESM who are already associated  with other  Pol Parties (corrupt) .




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Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Colonels

You are all very "senior" people, so kindly listen to the voice of the "young india".

@ Your "new political setup for India" is simply OLD WINE in OLD BOTTLES. The only places for disposing old bottles is as scrap, and for old wine is in gutter.

@ Bootlicking culture in "loser" colonels does not seem to have improved. See how you are still chasing after some authority figure like Narendra Modi so you can become junior Hitlers (who was actually only a corporal) who can say "but, we were only following orders".

@ At one time Greece was ruled by a junta of 7 colonels. They all ended fighting each other and today Greece is biggest basket case in whole of Europe.

@ instead of wasting your time in politics, please take up some useful sport, look after your dogs, grandkids etc, or simply do anything to ensure that you are as far away from the "better half" as possible and can pretend that you are still useful.

@ Let us youngsters clean up the mess your generation has created.

IAC is searching for old wine who can take directions and execute without questions or supervision.

Ajay

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Cols. Israel Jaikaran, Thakur Singh, Mahesh Khera, Brig. Chikarra, Wg Cdrs. Jai Singh & Jal Singh,
Getting together means getting together from this humble togetherness of the 7 of us to start with. I dont crave for any post as I have seen many and tasted as I am from a political family both from my and my wife's side. I have hobnobbed with a young Indira Gandhi when I was a uniformed Pilot Officer attending parties at Rashtrapati Bhawan and PM's House. My craze for flying was all I dreamt about  and I had my heartful of that.
I have been a great admirer of Narendra Modi and attended his very impressive  Gujrat Gaurav. He was addressing the whole of USA via sat. in June this year and I had just reached Phoenix. I attended the same. I had sent some write ups to him earlier as to why he should be the PM. I asked him as to what were the ways in which we could help him achieve it. The questions were too many, so it was left to the local press to field such questions and answers. A clip of my question-answer was recorded. I could send later.
I have a very good civilian friend who is also very interested in the field of Aviation. He is getting a ticket to stand for the coming elections by Modi's party. I could request him to let us know as to how we could go about being the catalyst force to see him as PM. Afterall, what he can visualise with all his experience will not match our combined thinking. If the guidance is forthcoming then we could work towards that goal in order to eliminate the rot of our great nation. We can stop the repression from within and the encouragement provided to nefarious Indians and foreigners to exploit us.
 Joy Chhetry, Pali Hill, Mumbai.
Ex Sqn Ldr. Veteran 1965 & 71 Indo-Pak war
M AeSI, M FAST, M PCGT, BMIR (Pune Univ)
President : Take-Off-Team & Adv. in India & USA
Author : A Complete Guide to Comm. Pilot Licence
 

From: Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com>

To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in; israel@jayakaran.com
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Col jayakaran and All,

Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and unite the ESM who are already associated  with other  Pol Parties (corrupt) .


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Dear Cols. Israel Jaikaran, Thakur Singh, Mahesh Khera, Brig. Chikarra, Wg Cdrs. Jai Singh & Jal Singh,
Getting together means getting together from this humble togetherness of the 7 of us to start with. I dont crave for any post as I have seen many and tasted as I am from a political family both from my and my wife's side. I have hobnobbed with a young Indira Gandhi when I was a uniformed Pilot Officer attending parties at Rashtrapati Bhawan and PM's House. My craze for flying was all I dreamt about  and I had my heartful of that.
I have been a great admirer of Narendra Modi and attended his very impressive  Gujrat Gaurav. He was addressing the whole of USA via sat. in June this year and I had just reached Phoenix. I attended the same. I had sent some write ups to him earlier as to why he should be the PM. I asked him as to what were the ways in which we could help him achieve it. The questions were too many, so it was left to the local press to field such questions and answers. A clip of my question-answer was recorded. I could send later.
I have a very good civilian friend who is also very interested in the field of Aviation. He is getting a ticket to stand for the coming elections by Modi's party. I could request him to let us know as to how we could go about being the catalyst force to see him as PM. Afterall, what he can visualise with all his experience will not match our combined thinking. If the guidance is forthcoming then we could work towards that goal in order to eliminate the rot of our great nation. We can stop the repression from within and the encouragement provided to nefarious Indians and foreigners to exploit us.
 Joy Chhetry, Pali Hill, Mumbai.
Ex Sqn Ldr. Veteran 1965 & 71 Indo-Pak war
M AeSI, M FAST, M PCGT, BMIR (Pune Univ)
President : Take-Off-Team & Adv. in India & USA
Author : A Complete Guide to Comm. Pilot Licence
 

From: Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in; israel@jayakaran.com
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Dear Col jayakaran and All,

Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and unite the ESM who are already associated  with other  Pol Parties (corrupt) .

I attended  a pgm conducted by Sw. Ram Dev at Haridwar, where he is forming the village /District committees which I found a very difficult task.

Therefore I also feel , that Infact we need to tie up with the suggested honest leaders so that the ESM particularly participate in the forthcoming Gen Elections by showing our solidarity . 

while forming village committees , I tried to persuade people to support and  file nominations in HP  for VS / MLA Elections on behalf of, " Jansangh Party"** but for paucity of time as also the people having been aligned with BJP / CONGRESS , most of them declined support to a new org, hence I had no choice but to  drop the idea.

But need NOW - to strengthen ESM and others for GEN  ELECTIONS.

Kindly give your comments and authorise some one on behalf of the ESM ASSOCIATIONS  to liaison with Sw. Ram dev, Anna &Gen VK Singh / Kejariwal.

** Pol Party already Registered  with election commission of india, in 2009 by Wing Cdr Jai Sing,   is called "Jansangh Party" it has its branches in Gujrat & Andhra AND IN HP I am  creating it 

Wing Cdr JaI Singh's contact No:  Mob No is --919161754456

Warm Regards

Col Thakur Singh
9873379995


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brig Chhikara has given an excellent suggestion. We need to try out this new political and democratic set up under a new leader. Like the rest of the country, the ESM community can strengthen the hands of the established, capable, proven, very strong and selfless leader.

Jai Hind

Col Mahesh Khera

From: rs chhikara <chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Dear Jayakaran and friends

Our nation has lacked a strong and nationalistic leader . A leader who can inspire the nation and fix he crooks.
I feel that Narendra Modi is the only such leader in India today. Tried and tested.  Negative publicity spear headed by the Congress not withstanding. There are people within the BJP and part of RSS who also oppose his leadership because of their personal bloated  interests. Kejriwal, Anna or Ramdev will find it difficult to control the newly elected parliamentarians in the absence pf political experience .

There will be other communal interests which will try to work on the Muslim vote bank to corner their votes. 

Yet if he takes up he leadership challenge and is fully supported by Anna, Kejriwal, VK Singh, Ramdev and all of us he can save India from  our own band of  4000 thieves. I believe Anna and VK etc will agree. Providing him with candidates from among ESM and others is a good idea. There are others in the present lot of parliamentarians also who can join him regardless of their present affiliations. P A Sangma and Rajiv Chandra Shekhar are only two examples.

Will Modi rise to the Challenge ? It may be worth trying. Personally , I think he will. He can even purge the BJP just as Indira Gandhi did to the Congress in 1969. 

 Kindly consider this for what ever you think it is worth.

Regards

Brig R S Chhikara



From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 8:44 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Randhir,
 
        I have said so many times and I am repeating it here.  A. Hazare's mission of eradicating corruption through Lok Pal bill will not work at  all.  Our politicians are  experts at finding loopholes in any  law and make the law non-operational. If there are no loop holes,  they could also create a couple and completely kill the bill putting the country back in square one..
 
            I feel in ther  present scenario, the only way to clean up the dirty stables is to win the elections  with a thumping majority and run the land with a clean administration and  with clean people.  More Defence service oficers and others need to join politics.
 
        If Anna and Gen V.K.Singh and their team,  travel the length and breadth of the country promising the voters a selfless government,  a completely selfless one, people will believe them because Anna has a halo round his head. .  The current atmosphere is such that people are fed up both with the Congress and BJP.  They are looking for an altenative. But where is it? Anna, I believe, is that alternative.  He could be a father figure and need not enter politis himself.
 
      Will some 100 odd Defence people get together and persuade Anna to form a party - I have suggested the name HONEST PEOPLE'S PARTY and fight the 2013 elections.  My forecast is that HPP could easily win 500 odd seats.  Then Anna's party  could run the country according to its policies. Will you please think it over and take the initiative in this regard.  I am too old (86 yrs) to take any active part in this mission. However, I could provide the think tank.   
 
      Do respond to this mail.
 
      Regards,
 
                             Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals, veteran, Chennai.  (1947 batch)
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

the idea is laudable
 
let us create a team /representatives of like minded people , to start with, all those who have given their views , and make a determined effort to convince Anna and Arvind to forget the differences, bond and take the lead and extricate the nation from the muck we are in today 
 
bubbles 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems and appears that each one is a "pithoo" of some other, in the political field and out to protect his/her one flank or the other.

What and how much can we protect ourselves from the murky leadership all over corrupt or UN-corrupt?!
dev chopra
***


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Israel.,
This is a wonderful method. However, Anna has cocooned himself. I had written similarly many times to IAC for Anna to come out and field his candidates before its too late. People are looking for alternatives. Kejriwal will corner some seats but thats not enough. Further, he's silent about Sharad Pawar, which gives signal that perhaps he is being financed by him. We must find a very reliable person to go to his address and council him for a week. Then see what he says. Same with Baba Ramdev. he's a willing horse.
Bregs.
Joy.
 

From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: aswal.ps@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012 4:53 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

Dear friends,
 
          Will the method adopted by Kejriwal work? How many corrupt politicians is he going to expose?  Won't it take him decades to deal with thousands of thieves.What would be the result anyway. Exposure inpublic will bring about nothing. Will they get punished?  Who will punish them?.  True, their image will be tarnished.  But they couldn't care less about it.  They need money and they have it.
 
          The present method followed by IAC will not put an end to corruption.Never.  IAC is only barking at a dry tree.  I feel the only method is for Anna Hazaare to enter politics, fight the next 2014 election with him as the chair person., capture power  all by himself and clean the stable.  He can deal with the corrupt according to his way then.
 
            I am sure he can corner around 500 Lok Sabha seats if he travels the length and breadth of the counry in the next two years or so promising the people a clean and corruption free  administration  and make the quality of life of every citizen to a top order.An Indian will enjoy his rights as a citizen.  No one could rob it from him. Thisis what he needs to promise in his political speech all over theland. There are more and will be revealed later. Every Indian will feel proud then.  Today, we as Indians are a nobody.  We cannot excercise any right; for that matter we don't even know what our rights are. This should be assured to the people.  People will believe him because he has a halo round his head.
 
           He is worried about the finance.  I had suggested that anyone wanting to join his party, which may be called HONEST PEOPLE's party(HPP) would have to become a member by paying Rs. 50 per year. He must start on a recruitment drive and it won't be difficult to muster around 10 lakh members to start with;  the servicemen and exservicemen would be the prime members and his backbone as well.  The service personnel will gladly join.  His first round of collection may go up to Rs. 10 crore which is enough for his team to travel round. Remember, this is how NT Ramarao overthrew the giant congress in AP and  came to  power with absolute  majority some 30 years back. Why can't such a revolutionary wave take place on an all India basis?  The voters are fed up both with ther  Congress and BJP.  They are looking around for an alternative.  Where is that alternative?  HPP would be that party.
 
         I had made this suggestion to Anna but I wonder if his team had  put up my mail to him.  Certainly not. Would you please try and persuade him to lend his name for a political upheaval. He needs to be the father of the party and not head it as a future prime minister.
 
        Let us goad Anna to come out of his shell and form the party.  This is a better tool to fight corruption ad eliminate it than the one being followed now. 
 
        If you agree with my suggestion, please go ahead and set the ball rolling. You are welcome to exchange notes with me.
 
                              Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals,  Veteran, Chennai. 
 











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I do not know the background of this Jai Prakash Narain. But I do understand  from his response that h has been completely defeated by life or else he is completely sold out to some interest who want India to remain hopeless.

Good luck to him . He wants to do nothing and dos not want any one else to do anything. How negative can one be?

Chhikara

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.

Today I attended a meeting of Mr Devender yadav a associate of Mr kejeriwal to promote their political ambitions n ideology. It was basically a philosophical speech about their future party n its ideology to a limited extent only n with no substance, but he was very clear in his mind that they may not get even a single seat in their first election n knowing the psych of the Indian people he seems to be right. If u go to the villages n talk to the people there u may find the same thing n may even realize that they are enjoying the corruption part. Can any of u go to  the villages where 70%  of our population live n convince them on ur anticorruption ideology I doubt. Gen V K is trying to find a foot hold in some party n proved himself a weak person in fighting for his DOB a very minor issue. U make ur own party n your own E S M may not vote for u. So what the alternative, pl go to ur villages n live with them n try to improve upon their way of life as done by Anna may be u get some following n than move forward. Living in air-conditioned houses in Gurgaon, Noida or Mumbai may not help u in forming a new party. What ever crowd pulling is done by Anna or Kejeriwal is all from the city n that's why he is trying his luck first in Delhi but would not able to convert them into votes, since their ideology is totally based on communism which has already rejected by the people in this country, This whole exercise is nothing but another political stunt to gain power through a very old issue of corruption n I have not much hope from them, since they have failed to get even 100 honest people in the country. Pl think over it n than proceed n in a more systematic n planned manner. Good luck to u all.
From: Col Thakur Singh mailto:thakursinghk@gmail.%20com
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com; chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in; israel@jayakaran.com  
Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] A new political set up for India.
  

Dear Col jayakaran and All,

Brig Chhikara has given a realistic suggestion although yours ia an innovative idea but it would take lot of efforts to form committees and unite the ESM who are already associated  with other  Pol Parties (corrupt) .

I attended  a pgm conducted by Sw. Ram Dev at Haridwar, where he is forming the village /District committees which I found a very difficult task.

Therefore I also feel , that Infact we need to tie up with the suggested honest leaders so that the ESM particularly participate in the forthcoming Gen Elections by showing our solidarity . 

while forming village committees , I tried to persuade people to support and  file nominations in HP  for VS / MLA Elections on behalf of, " Jansangh Party"** but for paucity of time as also the people having been aligned with BJP / CONGRESS , most of them declined support to a new org, hence I had no choice but to  drop the idea.

But need NOW - to strengthen ESM and others for GEN  ELECTIONS.

Kindly give your comments and authorise some one on behalf of the ESM ASSOCIATIONS  to liaison with Sw. Ram dev, Anna &Gen VK Singh / Kejariwal.

** Pol Party already Registered  with election commission of india, in 2009 by Wing Cdr Jai Sing,   is called "Jansangh Party" it has its branches in Gujrat & Andhra AND IN HP I am  creating it 

Wing Cdr JaI Singh's contact No:  Mob No is --919161754456

Warm Regards

Col Thakur Singh
9873379995


On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brig Chhikara has given an excellent suggestion. We need to try out this new political and democratic set up under a new leader. Like the rest of the country, the ESM community can strengthen the hands of the established, capable, proven, very strong and selfless leader.

Jai Hind

Col Mahesh Khera

From: rs chhikara <chhikarars1940@yahoo.co.in>
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Dear Jayakaran and friends

Our nation has lacked a strong and nationalistic leader . A leader who can inspire the nation and fix he crooks.
I feel that Narendra Modi is the only such leader in India today. Tried and tested.  Negative publicity spear headed by the Congress not withstanding. There are people within the BJP and part of RSS who also oppose his leadership because of their personal bloated  interests. Kejriwal, Anna or Ramdev will find it difficult to control the newly elected parliamentarians in the absence pf political experience .

There will be other communal interests which will try to work on the Muslim vote bank to corner their votes. 

Yet if he takes up he leadership challenge and is fully supported by Anna, Kejriwal, VK Singh, Ramdev and all of us he can save India from  our own band of  4000 thieves. I believe Anna and VK etc will agree. Providing him with candidates from among ESM and others is a good idea. There are others in the present lot of parliamentarians also who can join him regardless of their present affiliations. P A Sangma and Rajiv Chandra Shekhar are only two examples.

Will Modi rise to the Challenge ? It may be worth trying. Personally , I think he will. He can even purge the BJP just as Indira Gandhi did to the Congress in 1969. 

 Kindly consider this for what ever you think it is worth.

Regards

Brig R S Chhikara



From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 8:44 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re A new political set up for India.

Randhir,
 
        I have said so many times and I am repeating it here.  A. Hazare's mission of eradicating corruption through Lok Pal bill will not work at  all.  Our politicians are  experts at finding loopholes in any  law and make the law non-operational. If there are no loop holes,  they could also create a couple and completely kill the bill putting the country back in square one..
 
            I feel in ther  present scenario, the only way to clean up the dirty stables is to win the elections  with a thumping majority and run the land with a clean administration and  with clean people.  More Defence service oficers and others need to join politics.
 
        If Anna and Gen V.K.Singh and their team,  travel the length and breadth of the country promising the voters a selfless government,  a completely selfless one, people will believe them because Anna has a halo round his head. .  The current atmosphere is such that people are fed up both with the Congress and BJP.  They are looking for an altenative. But where is it? Anna, I believe, is that alternative.  He could be a father figure and need not enter politis himself.
 
      Will some 100 odd Defence people get together and persuade Anna to form a party - I have suggested the name HONEST PEOPLE'S PARTY and fight the 2013 elections.  My forecast is that HPP could easily win 500 odd seats.  Then Anna's party  could run the country according to its policies. Will you please think it over and take the initiative in this regard.  I am too old (86 yrs) to take any active part in this mission. However, I could provide the think tank.   
 
      Do respond to this mail.
 
      Regards,
 
                             Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals, veteran, Chennai.  (1947 batch)
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

the idea is laudable
 
let us create a team /representatives of like minded people , to start with, all those who have given their views , and make a determined effort to convince Anna and Arvind to forget the differences, bond and take the lead and extricate the nation from the muck we are in today 
 
bubbles 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM, devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems and appears that each one is a "pithoo" of some other, in the political field and out to protect his/her one flank or the other.

What and how much can we protect ourselves from the murky leadership all over corrupt or UN-corrupt?!
dev chopra
***


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Israel.,
This is a wonderful method. However, Anna has cocooned himself. I had written similarly many times to IAC for Anna to come out and field his candidates before its too late. People are looking for alternatives. Kejriwal will corner some seats but thats not enough. Further, he's silent about Sharad Pawar, which gives signal that perhaps he is being financed by him. We must find a very reliable person to go to his address and council him for a week. Then see what he says. Same with Baba Ramdev. he's a willing horse.
Bregs.
Joy.
 

From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
To: aswal.ps@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012 4:53 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Inida against corruption - a new approach

Dear friends,
 
          Will the method adopted by Kejriwal work? How many corrupt politicians is he going to expose?  Won't it take him decades to deal with thousands of thieves.What would be the result anyway. Exposure inpublic will bring about nothing. Will they get punished?  Who will punish them?.  True, their image will be tarnished.  But they couldn't care less about it.  They need money and they have it.
 
          The present method followed by IAC will not put an end to corruption.Never.  IAC is only barking at a dry tree.  I feel the only method is for Anna Hazaare to enter politics, fight the next 2014 election with him as the chair person., capture power  all by himself and clean the stable.  He can deal with the corrupt according to his way then.
 
            I am sure he can corner around 500 Lok Sabha seats if he travels the length and breadth of the counry in the next two years or so promising the people a clean and corruption free  administration  and make the quality of life of every citizen to a top order.An Indian will enjoy his rights as a citizen.  No one could rob it from him. Thisis what he needs to promise in his political speech all over theland. There are more and will be revealed later. Every Indian will feel proud then.  Today, we as Indians are a nobody.  We cannot excercise any right; for that matter we don't even know what our rights are. This should be assured to the people.  People will believe him because he has a halo round his head.
 
           He is worried about the finance.  I had suggested that anyone wanting to join his party, which may be called HONEST PEOPLE's party(HPP) would have to become a member by paying Rs. 50 per year. He must start on a recruitment drive and it won't be difficult to muster around 10 lakh members to start with;  the servicemen and exservicemen would be the prime members and his backbone as well.  The service personnel will gladly join.  His first round of collection may go up to Rs. 10 crore which is enough for his team to travel round. Remember, this is how NT Ramarao overthrew the giant congress in AP and  came to  power with absolute  majority some 30 years back. Why can't such a revolutionary wave take place on an all India basis?  The voters are fed up both with ther  Congress and BJP.  They are looking around for an alternative.  Where is that alternative?  HPP would be that party.
 
         I had made this suggestion to Anna but I wonder if his team had  put up my mail to him.  Certainly not. Would you please try and persuade him to lend his name for a political upheaval. He needs to be the father of the party and not head it as a future prime minister.
 
        Let us goad Anna to come out of his shell and form the party.  This is a better tool to fight corruption ad eliminate it than the one being followed now. 
 
        If you agree with my suggestion, please go ahead and set the ball rolling. You are welcome to exchange notes with me.
 
                              Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals,  Veteran, Chennai. 
 













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