Re: [IAC#RG] IMHO, AAP may be banned after Delhi elections

Wednesday, October 30, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] IMHO, AAP may be banned after Delhi elections

This is one of the most absurd controversy (if it is at all) I have ever come across.

An NRI (say Mr. ABC) is just an Indian Citizen, who is OUT of India for more than 183 days in any Financial Year (FY), for Income Tax purposes. He may be off and on even in India for work purposes too. Say he is in India for 165 days in any Financial Year, and the balance 200 days say in USA

There can be various possibilities.

1) Mr. ABC donates to AAP, while he is in India, (during those 165 days) using his Indian Bank's Debit Card, through net banking, out of his Indian savings. Why should any law, stop Mr. ABC from donating his money to AAP, just because he stays out of India from more than 183 days in a FY, for work purposes, and thus becomes an NRI. Is working abroad for more than 183 days in a FY, and thus become an NRI automatically be default for Income Tax purposes, a crime??

2) Say the same Mr. ABC in now using his Indian Bank's Debit Card, from USA, and donating to AAP, through net banking, out of his Indian Savings. Why again should any law, stop Mr. ABC from donating his money to AAP from abroad through Net Banking.

I understand, plenty of NRI's are donating through net banking to AAP, using their Indian Debit Cards. And then who would decide, the money which goes to AAP, from the NRI's Indian Bank Account, is from Indian sources or not. It would naturally be a mixture of both from Indian and abroad sources.

An NRI also has to pay Indian Income Tax for his interest earnings in Banks in India. In any case, the NRI also pays his Indian Income Tax online, through his very same Indian Bank's Debit Card, sitting abroad. Why should Mr. ABC now be stopped from using the very same Indian Bank's Debit Card, for donating to AAP ???

Is there any similar absurd restrictions in paying Mr. ABC's Indian Income Tax dues online for his Taxable Indian Banks Interests from the so called 'foreign sources' ???? If anybody knows of any such absurd rules than an NRI can NOT pay his Indian Income Taxes dues online using his say USA Banks's Debit Card (through paypal or otherwise) and the so called 'foreign sources', then please let the forum know.

On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 3:50 PM, Sainik Sangh <gs@sainiksangh.org> wrote:

NRIs are the biggest threat to India next to TALIBAN only

maj gen (rtd) chauhan

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Bina Goel
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IMHO, AAP may be banned after Delhi elections

yesterday at indore congress was painted as KASANGRESS while as this should have been painted as KANS GRACE- poll address by rahul can only be appreciated by persons who want to get benefited by CHAPLOOSI of rahul and sonia and these are diggi manish punia khurshid sheela manmohan and lot many persons like these. i do not appreciate immature lecture by him like crores of indian citizen and this will prove after election result of states and parliament-dr.g.k.goel

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:

Sec 2(j)(x) of FCRA only defines a citizen of another country as a foreign sourcr and not a citizen of India even if resident abroad .So acceptance of any donation from a non resident Indian Citizen is fully permissible.

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On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ravi
>
> Congress has too many big shot advocates and fixers, same goes for
> BJP, who know law at their fingertips. Poor AAP only has Prashant
> Bhushan, who made an ass of himself in High Court on the last to last
> hearing, and also failed to turn up on 23.Oct.
>
> The language of the law is clear, no money from overseas sources can
> be accepted by any political party. Prashant Bhushan made out some
> convoluted argument in court that they had been cleared of these
> charges in IAC times - Judge told him - IAC was not a political party,
> and in any case money went to PCRF and not IAC as you deposed in SC.
> AAP is a political party and will be reinvestigated for its sources of
> funding from the date you formed the party - 26.Nov.2012 !!~
>
> Then Bhushan made another silly argument - If NRIs now have the right
> to vote (since 2010) then they have equally right to finance
> candidates for local elections and their money is not from a "foreign
> source". Hon'ble Judge asked him to read the definition of "foreign
> source" in FCRA - that shut him up (his face turned red) and he didn't
> show his face next hearing but sent his junior.
>
> The way it will now be rigged is the FCRA investigation of the foreign
> funds - which will be controlled by Congress (MHA - Chiddu). AAP was
> always a Congress dog, now they will be a LEASHED Congress dog. Who
> knows - Sonia may even make AK as her next CM for Delhi. Already all
> the top AAP brass are said to still have FIRs / cases pending (for
> rioting, destruction of public property etc.) so they are themselves
> eliminated by their own code of conduct.
>
> BJP knows this, I wouldn't be surprised if they try some appeal to
> AK's fake "Gandhian/Swarajist" conscience - Modi, Anna, Ramdev and
> other "eminent" citizens like Ramdas, Tahiliani, VKS, Govindacharya
> etc. etc. may request that AAP should vacate the field in national
> interest and all sons and daughters of Bharat-mata should come
> together again to defeat anti-Swaraj forces..
>
> Ask yourself the real question, If AAP "kids" trip up on such
> elementary points of law, can we trust them to run 1 State let alone
> the Country without help from wiser people ?
>
> On 10/24/13, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow! I thought it was the Congress that was THE foreign financed party and
>> liable to be banned for FCRA violations. How can AAP align with them?
>>
>> regards n bw
>>
>> ravi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear IAC friends
>>>
>>> In a potentially welcome Delhi HC decision today for democracy, the
>>> foreign financed party is liable to be banned for FCRA violations..The
>>> Hoible Court has set the next date as 10 Dec 2013 2 days after the
>>> election
>>> result.
>>>
>>> This may influence AAP to side with Congress in event of a split verdict.