The story about "let them eat cake" is an allegory, it never happened
(or at least we cant establish that it did).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake
Sarbajit
On 1/7/12, Trivendra <trivendra54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Sir,
>
> Against common perception of blackmailing, time consuming, RTI applications
> are with a simple purpose to get rid of difficulties as this is the only Act
> (I understand) where the time is fixed, and reply is made compulsory (though
> not being abiding by PIO's).
>
> At state level problems are of such gravity that, people sitting in Delhi
> simply can not understand them. I read somewhere a story that Once people of
> England demanded loaf of bread from queen, she astonished and replied why
> don't you eat cake instead of bread. She simply failed to understand that
> she had so heavily taxed the citizens that they were were unable to buy
> bread even. How could they think of cake.
>
> The main problem lies in understanding of problems. Weak & wealthy, literate
> & illiterate have different problems and different solutions. But once they
> are handled by the same person. Simply the person fails to understand.
> (Legends like Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Jagjit Singh, Bhupen Hazarika, Shammi
> Kapoor and Dev Anand who left us this year would be shedding tears in heaven
> watching the whole nation grooving to Kolaveri Di, Ooh-la-la and Jalebi bai
> and people are making money here just other side of coin).
>
>
> Regards
>
> Trivendra
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 7 January 2012 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
>
> I have on several occasions condemned filing RTI applications without any
> purpose and do so again. Such acts will defame the Act and give a handle to
> RTI baiters to beat the RTI Act with this baton. All right spirited persons
> should oppose and discourage attempts to burden the govt. with RTI with ill
> intentions and for blackmailing the PIO. After all govt. is running with
> the money paid by citizens as taxes and the time of the staff should not be
> wasted.
>
>
> However, it is difficult to prove that the information sought is not with
> good intentions and is merely for the purpose to harass the PIO or Public
> Authority. PIOs and PAs will say that most of the applications are for
> blackmailing them. For them, all the applications are vexetious and
> infrotuous but many such applications have unearthed many scams including
> 2G, correspondence between Finance and Home Ministers on 2G allocation and
> on many issues.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
> blackmailers
>
> Dear Mr Gupta,
>
> My heading was "fair comment", and Mr Prabhu has appreciated it (and
> the spirit it was made). Mr Prabhu's reply has also been
> fully
> circulated to all concerned by me.
>
> The "reality" is that in the law of India (such as IPC) if any one
> (say Mr. "A") blackmails / extorts for a contravention by say Mr "B",
> then Mr "A" is to be penalised (and not Mr "B").
>
> Mr Prabhu continues to state that no, no first punish Mr. B then go
> after Mr. A. It is RTI activists like these who are murdering RTI Act
> by misusing RTI for a purpose it was not intended. RTI is not a
> primary tool / weapon to be used to "fight" corruption. As the news
> article states it is these RTI PARASITES who file multiple coordinated
> frivolous RTIs in vexatious manner who are being (rightly) prosecuted
> / targeted by the State.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 1/7/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> The heading "Mr. Bhasker Prabhu defends RTI blackmailers" is in bad taste
>> and
> far from reality.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Mr. Bhaskar Prabhu defends RTI
>> blackmailers
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
>> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarbajit,
>>>
>>>Thanks for twisting the issue and appreciate your way of coercive black
>>> mailing. Any way we both are seasoned enough to face each other. Atleast
>>> now you are less using the word "Ha..mi". I also know you are expecting
>>> for me to respond as we had not talked or exchanged mails.
>>>
>> I stand by what I have said if there is black then there may be black mail
>> by black sheep RTI users. Any applicant when he asks for information and
>> if
>> he finds wrong doing then some may see that action is taken but miniscule
>> use the information other wise, let the authority take action and also
>> correct the wrong doing done either by predecessor or by current officers
>> by
>> demolitions of illegal
> matters or any remedial actions to keep it as per to
>> law of the land and also parallely investigate the matter if the matter
>> concerns the black mailing by the applicant, and i don't think anything
>> wrong in my thought, may be it is some thing different to your mind having
>> twisting nature.
>>>
>>>I always say if any body wants to be stronger with intelligence for
>>> turning
>>> the issues like inserting sugarcane by twisting it in sugarcane crusher
>>> then learn from Mr Sarbajit the
>>>
>>>It was a very wide from you better next time
>>>
>>>Not a single authority is able to show any officer to be victim of
>>> blackmailing. It is the builder who is sowing seeds of complaints through
>>> the officers who are corrupt, who don't want to take action on wrong
>>> doings by the builders.
>>>
>>>Why leave or allow the wrong
> things to happen so as to create any
>>> opportunity for black mails.
>>>
>>>Such exchange of emails will make me stronger and happy to get doses from
>>> you.
>>>
>>>Any way do you know anybody committed, to be a part of work social audit
>>> who is in civil engineering side ?
>>>
>>
>> Though I have not listed myself in the group that you have enlisted me, I
>> cannot post it there so post on my behalf the message.
>>
>>
>>>Thanks Sarbajit.
>>>
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_pune-cops-to-crack-whip-on-rti-blackmailers_1633390
>>>>
>>>>A leading newspaper has quoted Mr Bhaskar Prabhu as saying the following
>>>> "The police should investigate which information has been sought. If
>> found worthy, action should be taken against the authority concerned
>> before punishing blackmailer."
>>>>
>>>>The DNA article details several tricks used by RTI blackmailers whom Mr
>>>> Prabhu is defending
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Yours in service of RTI
>>>
>>>Bhaskar Prabhu
>>>Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>>>9892102424
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours in service of RTI
>>
>> Bhaskar Prabhu
>> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>> 9892102424
>>
>> Watch this Video मुंबईकरानो - हा व्हिडियो बघा (३० ऑक्टोबर २०११)
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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