Saturday, July 21, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] TRIBUTE TO KAMARAJ (FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU,

Dear Members,

with regards to Article on Kamaraj and Kakkan by Mr. Venkatarman. its a foundation state to State's industrialisation and education policy. I am not convinced with Mr. Rajinder saying Brahmins were driven out and etc. Look from holistic point, that rule by Congress's Kamaraj is still considered benchmark for good governance in most parameters. Periyar's movement was movement of pride for Dravidians which still hold sway amongst Tamilnadu native people's Psyche. the times were more revolutionary given the forward thinkers and rationalists spreading their thought. Its not correct to say Brahmins were driven away except that rationalism drove dravidian movement and that upstaged upper caste domination which was favoured by erstwhile British rulers. History cannot be re written or never spoken in many voices, its just the opinion and which side of the coin one sees. True Kamaraj shrewd manipulation of his wealthy caste resulted in many philanthropists pitching in to build the education network.

Coming to corruption one can say comfortably that after Annadurai's demise, new found power brokers including Karunanidhi and his coterie had a free run at money being generated, especially helping his kith and kin encroach on the entire length and breadth of state power politics. Yes development did not stop albeit at slow pace and new found formula of you scratch my back i shall return the favour. Education was the foundation stone for Tamilnadu people's development which until then was restricted to Upper castes during pre independence. next the early people who benefitted by Kamaraj's Largesse in education budget are present day engineers, doctors, legal luminaries, and various other professional experts. these folks all are happily retired or at fag end of career and hence their quality was never compromised. But allowing private players into education by both DMK and ADMK and quid pro support for partymen has sprouted so many engineering  and technical colleges across Tamilnadu at expense of quality. that is the thing to lament.



 



On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:24 AM Rajinder Dalvi <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Dr Venkatraman

From your post I feel you are saying that Congress rule was the best rule for Tamil Nadu but under these Dravidian parties the state sunk to new lows of corruption and alcoholism.

Incidentally my many dear friends from Tamil Nadu tell me, confidentially since they cannot say so publicly, that it was Kamraj/Periyar anti-Brahmin policy which made all the moral and educated persons to forcibly leave the State, leading to intellectual vacuum and steep decline in education values (filled by these mushrooming colleges/universities run by benamis of politicians) and huge rise in alcoholism there.

The plight of Tamil Nadu Brahmins is same (or worse) than Kashmiri Pandits, and we must ask if it is because of so-called democracy that numerically larger lumpen classes are taking over, ruining the nation and spreading their corruption.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Venkatraman Ns <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

India Against Corruption


                                               REMEMBERING  KAMARAJ, FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU


Cross section of people in Tamil Nadu celebrated the birth anniversary of Kamaraj on 15th July,2018 with dignity and feelings of gratitude for the services rendered by the great man to Tamil Nadu and the country and for his setting up a bench mark for quality governance in Tamil Nadu 

Both Kamaraj and Kakkan were born in very poor families and gained respect and prominence in public life by exhibiting qualities of simplicity and sincere devotion to the cause of the country. 

When Kamaraj was the Chief Minister and Kakkan was the minister in his cabinet, both of them discharged their duties and responsibilities with high level of personal honesty. The probity in public life which they exhibited throu oghout their life and as ministers was of highest class. 

With the honesty of purpose and sustained interest in the welfare of the deprived section of the society, many schemes were implemented successfully and in time ,which was possible due to the absence of any vested interests and absence of corruption at the political level. 

Today, those in the age group of sixty and above who have seen Kamaraj and Kakkan and who have experienced the benefits of their quality leadership and administration, feel extremely sad to see the conditions today in Tamil Nadu, where corruption has become the order of the day and more than one third of men population in Tamil Nadu have become liquor addicts. 

Of course, even in the days of Kamaraj as Chief Minister, he was heavily criticized and abused by the leaders of the Dravidian parties for no valid reason. While C.N.Annadurai was dignified in criticizing him , it was not so in the case of other leaders of the Dravidian party . But, people in Tamil Nadu looked at the abuses with the contempt that they deserve. 

Decline in the quality of governance and probity in public life started in Tamil Nadu after the passing away of C.N.Annadurai, who was the Chief Minister only for a very short period. 

Ever since then, the decline in the standards of politicians and government machinery have been steady and though it has already reached disturbingly low level, many wonder whether it would further go down to catastrophic level. 

Today, many politicians in Tamil Nadu at various levels, who have never taken up any job or involved themselves in any worthwhile profession to earn their livings, are now leading luxurious life style with huge wealth and property , though they have no known sources of income. Quite a number of them are chancellors and pro chancellors of universities with their sons and daughters waiting to succeed them. Learned professors are saluting them. 

Today, in Tamil Nadu, politics has become such a lucrative profession that every member of the leader of the political party want to enter politics with tacit encouragement from the families. Now,new political parties are emerging at disturbingly frequent level, with politicians as founders ,who have nothing to claim as their own except the ill gotten money. 

Under the circumstances, it is not surprising that people who have seen the days of Kamaraj and Kakkan feel extremely disturbed at the present state of affairs and they wonder whether Tamil Nadu can get back the glorious days of Kamaraj and Kakkan at all. 

When Kamaraj and Kakkan passed away , they had no significant property or wealth and Kamaraj had only a few shirts and dhoties with currency of around Rs. 100 or so. One can readily see the difference these days if we look at today's politicians, who can go nowhere near Kamaraj and Kakkan for their standards of thoughts and actions. 

Have we already lost Tamil Nadu as a place of glory and dignity that it was once known for. 


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Friday, July 20, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] TRIBUTE TO KAMARAJ (FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU,

Dear Dr Venkatraman

From your post I feel you are saying that Congress rule was the best rule for Tamil Nadu but under these Dravidian parties the state sunk to new lows of corruption and alcoholism.

Incidentally my many dear friends from Tamil Nadu tell me, confidentially since they cannot say so publicly, that it was Kamraj/Periyar anti-Brahmin policy which made all the moral and educated persons to forcibly leave the State, leading to intellectual vacuum and steep decline in education values (filled by these mushrooming colleges/universities run by benamis of politicians) and huge rise in alcoholism there.

The plight of Tamil Nadu Brahmins is same (or worse) than Kashmiri Pandits, and we must ask if it is because of so-called democracy that numerically larger lumpen classes are taking over, ruining the nation and spreading their corruption.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Venkatraman Ns <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

India Against Corruption


                                               REMEMBERING  KAMARAJ, FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU


Cross section of people in Tamil Nadu celebrated the birth anniversary of Kamaraj on 15th July,2018 with dignity and feelings of gratitude for the services rendered by the great man to Tamil Nadu and the country and for his setting up a bench mark for quality governance in Tamil Nadu 

Both Kamaraj and Kakkan were born in very poor families and gained respect and prominence in public life by exhibiting qualities of simplicity and sincere devotion to the cause of the country. 

When Kamaraj was the Chief Minister and Kakkan was the minister in his cabinet, both of them discharged their duties and responsibilities with high level of personal honesty. The probity in public life which they exhibited throu oghout their life and as ministers was of highest class. 

With the honesty of purpose and sustained interest in the welfare of the deprived section of the society, many schemes were implemented successfully and in time ,which was possible due to the absence of any vested interests and absence of corruption at the political level. 

Today, those in the age group of sixty and above who have seen Kamaraj and Kakkan and who have experienced the benefits of their quality leadership and administration, feel extremely sad to see the conditions today in Tamil Nadu, where corruption has become the order of the day and more than one third of men population in Tamil Nadu have become liquor addicts. 

Of course, even in the days of Kamaraj as Chief Minister, he was heavily criticized and abused by the leaders of the Dravidian parties for no valid reason. While C.N.Annadurai was dignified in criticizing him , it was not so in the case of other leaders of the Dravidian party . But, people in Tamil Nadu looked at the abuses with the contempt that they deserve. 

Decline in the quality of governance and probity in public life started in Tamil Nadu after the passing away of C.N.Annadurai, who was the Chief Minister only for a very short period. 

Ever since then, the decline in the standards of politicians and government machinery have been steady and though it has already reached disturbingly low level, many wonder whether it would further go down to catastrophic level. 

Today, many politicians in Tamil Nadu at various levels, who have never taken up any job or involved themselves in any worthwhile profession to earn their livings, are now leading luxurious life style with huge wealth and property , though they have no known sources of income. Quite a number of them are chancellors and pro chancellors of universities with their sons and daughters waiting to succeed them. Learned professors are saluting them. 

Today, in Tamil Nadu, politics has become such a lucrative profession that every member of the leader of the political party want to enter politics with tacit encouragement from the families. Now,new political parties are emerging at disturbingly frequent level, with politicians as founders ,who have nothing to claim as their own except the ill gotten money. 

Under the circumstances, it is not surprising that people who have seen the days of Kamaraj and Kakkan feel extremely disturbed at the present state of affairs and they wonder whether Tamil Nadu can get back the glorious days of Kamaraj and Kakkan at all. 

When Kamaraj and Kakkan passed away , they had no significant property or wealth and Kamaraj had only a few shirts and dhoties with currency of around Rs. 100 or so. One can readily see the difference these days if we look at today's politicians, who can go nowhere near Kamaraj and Kakkan for their standards of thoughts and actions. 

Have we already lost Tamil Nadu as a place of glory and dignity that it was once known for. 


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Thursday, July 19, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] ONLY SPOTLESS JUDGES CAN RESCUE INDIA’S CRUMBLING JUDICIARY

When Arvind Kejriwal arrived on the scene as an honest, ordinary man I feared that the our ''Politicians, mostly crooked, would not allow a new 'do-gooder''to survive as that would impinge on their 'way of life' so as to say, and we find that has transpired. To improve our way of governance, We the People, must change; become basically honest, truthful AND committed to be an honest, hardworking, unselfish member of society, each one of us. I perceive that such a movement is germinating, we must egg it on, each one of us. Hopefully such a movement will flourish and make us, Indians, people to admire and help to bring this beautiful country an able, well ordered, well-managed bountiful place in the World. We have the intrinsic ability and we can do it.---Hirak Nag.  


On ‎Thursday‎, ‎19‎ ‎July‎ ‎2018‎ ‎02‎:‎53‎:‎40‎ ‎IST, Virender Johar <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


You are right but by the time, awareness at this rate reaches the majority, it may be too late.

AAP took lot of time and a concerted effort to contest n win elections in Delhi but other places where is it?  AAP agenda was to have its leader as CM. Have they lived up to achieve what they projected? Will any Party / well meaning group of people  ever will be able to provide spotless and honest governance unless the basic mentality of Indians  changes?
 
U and me are very small fish in this  field. The big corrupt fish will finish us so we need to tread very carefully. 

Do not intend to discourage any well meaning people like Convenor and others.

God Bless and Best of luck.

Regards
Lt Col V K Johar ( Veteran)

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 10:44 Radha Krishnan RN <rnrkrish@gmail.com> wrote:
Creation of an awareness has to be attempted , no doubt. History reveals none at the helms of affairs have been honest and sincere to the extent the citizens expect.

Te question is what best mechanism can there be that can contain the corruption to the level the common man is not burdened at all.

I have been voting for NOTA and recommend that we must promote NOTA as a powerful tool to bring about some desirable change in the nomination of candidates.

Regards RN Radhakrishnan


[IAC#RG] TRIBUTE TO KAMARAJ (FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU,


India Against Corruption


                                               REMEMBERING  KAMARAJ, FORMER CHIEF MINISTER OF TAMIL NADU


Cross section of people in Tamil Nadu celebrated the birth anniversary of Kamaraj on 15th July,2018 with dignity and feelings of gratitude for the services rendered by the great man to Tamil Nadu and the country and for his setting up a bench mark for quality governance in Tamil Nadu 

Both Kamaraj and Kakkan were born in very poor families and gained respect and prominence in public life by exhibiting qualities of simplicity and sincere devotion to the cause of the country. 

When Kamaraj was the Chief Minister and Kakkan was the minister in his cabinet, both of them discharged their duties and responsibilities with high level of personal honesty. The probity in public life which they exhibited throu oghout their life and as ministers was of highest class. 

With the honesty of purpose and sustained interest in the welfare of the deprived section of the society, many schemes were implemented successfully and in time ,which was possible due to the absence of any vested interests and absence of corruption at the political level. 

Today, those in the age group of sixty and above who have seen Kamaraj and Kakkan and who have experienced the benefits of their quality leadership and administration, feel extremely sad to see the conditions today in Tamil Nadu, where corruption has become the order of the day and more than one third of men population in Tamil Nadu have become liquor addicts. 

Of course, even in the days of Kamaraj as Chief Minister, he was heavily criticized and abused by the leaders of the Dravidian parties for no valid reason. While C.N.Annadurai was dignified in criticizing him , it was not so in the case of other leaders of the Dravidian party . But, people in Tamil Nadu looked at the abuses with the contempt that they deserve. 

Decline in the quality of governance and probity in public life started in Tamil Nadu after the passing away of C.N.Annadurai, who was the Chief Minister only for a very short period. 

Ever since then, the decline in the standards of politicians and government machinery have been steady and though it has already reached disturbingly low level, many wonder whether it would further go down to catastrophic level. 

Today, many politicians in Tamil Nadu at various levels, who have never taken up any job or involved themselves in any worthwhile profession to earn their livings, are now leading luxurious life style with huge wealth and property , though they have no known sources of income. Quite a number of them are chancellors and pro chancellors of universities with their sons and daughters waiting to succeed them. Learned professors are saluting them. 

Today, in Tamil Nadu, politics has become such a lucrative profession that every member of the leader of the political party want to enter politics with tacit encouragement from the families. Now,new political parties are emerging at disturbingly frequent level, with politicians as founders ,who have nothing to claim as their own except the ill gotten money. 

Under the circumstances, it is not surprising that people who have seen the days of Kamaraj and Kakkan feel extremely disturbed at the present state of affairs and they wonder whether Tamil Nadu can get back the glorious days of Kamaraj and Kakkan at all. 

When Kamaraj and Kakkan passed away , they had no significant property or wealth and Kamaraj had only a few shirts and dhoties with currency of around Rs. 100 or so. One can readily see the difference these days if we look at today's politicians, who can go nowhere near Kamaraj and Kakkan for their standards of thoughts and actions. 

Have we already lost Tamil Nadu as a place of glory and dignity that it was once known for. 


N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice for The Deprived

Sunday, July 15, 2018

[IAC#RG] Fw: Will anybody help by file RTI in appropriate words

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Subject: [IAC#RG] Will anybody help by file RTI in appropriate words
Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology (IITM), Pune had conducted Artificial Rain making Experiment in Aurangabad Maharashtra in 2015.

3000 flares where Purchased for this experiment and kept In Aurangabad (Maharashtra) International Airport for Loading to Aeroplane for the same worth several Corords Rupees from Public tax.

However only about 500 flares were used and other 2500 chemical flares were eat by Rats as they are made up of Silver Cloried and Calcium Cloried which Rats fond of more.

Now Authorities are hiding truth and not giving any information.

If any body can help and provide the information regarding this by RTI I would be thankful for the same

Please Help me


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Re: [IAC#RG] Will anybody help by file RTI in appropriate words

You could try asking for information pertaining to the flares acquired by Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology (IITM), Pune for conducting Artificial Rain making Experiment in Aurangabad Maharashtra in 2015. Then ask specific questions. For eg:
  • Number of flares purchased and the costs incurred with breakdown.
  • Number of flares used according to date and location
  • Status of balance flares and their current location
  • Number of flares currently available for use.
I don't know the exact project, so can't help with framing exact questions, but the general idea is to frame the questions in a manner that can be answered by documents on record. So, for example, if you think the flares have been moved from one location to another, you can ask for details of storage of said flares by location and exact dates they were stored at that location or you can ask datewise - for example the arrangements and locations for the storage of the flares from 2015 till now.

If you think that the damage due to rats was due to improper storage or handling (likely), you can ask the precautions taken to prevent damage to the investment. And so on. Or details of containers the flares were stored in. Or, if you have specific information like "rats ate the flares when stored at the airport" - as in confirmed, you already know it, you can say that directly like "We have reason to believe that the flares were damaged at [details]" and ask for action taken to prevent further damage or request results of investigation or proceedings against responsible parties, if arrangements have been made to procure more flares for the experiment, etc Risk with enquiring about a specific incident is that if you have any details wrong, they can simply say that no flares were damaged at location xyz on date abc and obfuscate the fact that it may have been wxy and bcd, but the damage really happened. So for asking about specific incident, you must be certain that a. that incident happened and b. it was documented according to how you are asking.

Hope this helps.

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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:17 PM K <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology (IITM), Pune had conducted Artificial Rain making Experiment in Aurangabad Maharashtra in 2015.

3000 flares where Purchased for this experiment and kept In Aurangabad (Maharashtra) International Airport for Loading to Aeroplane for the same worth several Corords Rupees from Public tax.

However only about 500 flares were used and other 2500 chemical flares were eat by Rats as they are made up of Silver Cloried and Calcium Cloried which Rats fond of more.

Now Authorities are hiding truth and not giving any information.

If any body can help and provide the information regarding this by RTI I would be thankful for the same

Please Help me


Kirankumar Johare
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Saturday, July 14, 2018

[IAC#RG] LET US GUARD OUR DEAR EXPLOITED HOME GUARDS

It is very appalling and so absolutely distressing to see the manner in which the Goa Police has been very highhandedly misusing and shabbily ill-treating the Home Guards. They have been reduced to being slaves with absolute disrespect and made to do tasks they are not supposed to.

Yesterday I have drawn the attention of the young IPS Officer Utkrisht Prasoon who has recently been appointed as the Principal of the Police Training School in Valpoi to the very disturbing fact that two Home guards there have been assigned the work of washing the toilets.

Also so surprisingly a Head constable Ladu Gawas (Badge no 4214) is reportedly well entrenched at the Police Training School for a long 22 years without a transfer.

While I can assure our dear Home Guards that it shall be my relentless endeveaour to get them their much deserved Justice, let us hope that our DGP Dr. Muktesh Chander wakes up from his slumber and gets his house in order by ensuring that his Human Guards are accorded the due respect and treated as Human Beings. 



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