In continuation of my previous email I am just being informed on TV that Nirbhaya rapists will not be hanged tomorrow. Before raising our fingers at the lowly police officers let us hang our heads in shame over the justice delivery system that 'We the Learned' have given ourselves. The same elite among us are vigorously fighting to deny citizenship to the hapless Hindus who were tortured and pushed out of our neighbouring islamic countries who do not know the meaning of secularism.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPadOn Monday, March 2, 2020, 4:22 PM, Natarajan <natarajan218@yahoo.com> wrote:
We know that the root cause and origin of the violence was the protests mostly by 1 community which gave platform for violent provocation by the most virulent leaders of that community. This is on record. A Goebelish disinformation campaign that CAA was for deportation of that community was spread by the entire opposition to target the PM. The blocking of street by the squatters has violated the fundamental rights of the common citizens and yet even the Apex court watched this helplessly and has till day avoided a ruling against although it has admittedly spoken against this brazen activity. In this situation it is not fair to blame the police. Only 4 weeks back a lady police officer was beaten up by some goons in front of a Delhi court wearing lawyers' robes. They are still at large as far as we know.Everyone including the judiciary blames the police at the drop of a hat. Pl introspect about the rot. The best illustration of this rot is the Nirbaya case. Place your hand on your heart and say who is responsible for the unconscianable delay in this fast track case. Yet we are paying lip- services to the rights of women. At least the duly elected politicians face judgement of citizens every 5 years. All the others including those spreading disinformation or furthering injustice are immune. The other day one Apex court judge was saying that merely because somebody (read party) won 51% majority it does not mean that the opposition had to keep quiet for the next 5 years. Hence he was supporting street protests in the name of freedom of expression. The learned judge seemed to forget that a law passed by the parliament can be challenged only in the Courts and that there are Constitutional provisions to defeat an elected government through a vote of No Confidence and by amending a law by a due process of voting.Blaming police is a simplistic myopic approach. Pl do not throw the baby with the bathwater.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 15:24, Sarbajit Roy<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Dear Mr. VenkatramanNeither of us should hold any brief for Delhi Police or its parent Ministry (Home Affairs) or their political bosses.Since I, probably unlike you, interact very regularly with top and bottom level officers in Delhi Police, I can say the following with complete confidence in its truth and veracity1) Delhi Police is now a force for repression, police brutality and used mainly as an instrument of state enforcement. Although it must be said n their defence that most of the brutality videos on Twitter were actually by Central Police Forces taking out their revenge against Muslims for incidents like Phulwama2) If a Delhi Police SHO has a choice betweena) registering an FIR for incitement for communal violence, orb) locating a missing pet poodle of his CP's wife, he will do the latter everytime(https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Delhi-top-cops-pet-dog-found/articleshow/2910507.cms)"Meanwhile, Delhi Police has also become sensitive about the issues related to dogs. Now pet owners are easily getting the registrations of missing complaints done at the concerned police stations.
Dependra Pathak, joint commissioner of police and the spokesperson of Delhi Police said: 'Whenever there will be a complaint, FIR will be registered. Be it for a human or an animal. Cops have also been instructed to take action."
3) In the so-called Nirbhaya gang rape case of Dec 2012, the police registered the FIR (backdated) after 48 hours, and only after 3 magistrates somehow extracted in-seriatim the "proper" dying declaration which whitewashed their political master's role in it. (PS: The convicts seem likely to be hanged tomorrow)4) The primary "business" of Delhi Police is collection of bribes which are funneled upwards in the chain where everybody has to meet set targets and receives their "points" of it.5) The ordinary Delhi Policeman on the streets is completely scared nowadays, and is old and unfit with string of medical conditions, is not prepared to work any more and is only cutting time till retirement. All the younger medically fit ones have got themselves assigned as PSO to some neta or VIP duty. Nobody is doing cutting edge investigation anymore and most crimes are solved on basis of informants or motivated complaints. The "Singham" / "Ab tak Chappan" types are anyway all nowadays paid shooters for the 50 odd top criminal gangs which BJP has set up territorywise in Delhi under their councillors. There is no difference now between Bombay mafia and Delhi mafia, and criminals are often better armed than the cops.6) Delhi Police was completely demoralised after the fight with lawyers when they saw the high-level coverup by the judiciary to protect lawyers, and police realised that they have to depend on these same lawyers to represent them in the courts.7) All the active operational deployment of DP is for "VIP" duty and VIP routes. Even the cranes for clearing traffic on roads are diverted to VIP route creating compete chaos for all road users8) Like in 1984, this time also the Delhi Police did not move till they got green light from high level. They all saw what happened to Sanjeev Bhatt after Gujarat 2002.9) If anybody is to be garlanded for this monumental cockup it is A) AJIT DOVAL NSA and B) ANIL BAIJAL LG of Delhi. No reasonable person would believe they were not part of it and could not control it if they wanted to.... picture abhi baaki hainSarbajit RoyOn Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:42 AM Venkatraman Ns <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:ToIndia Against CorruptionDELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
Almost all section of Indian media and most of the critics have blamed the Delhi police for the riots for two days ,when many innocent lives were lost and many were injured and large scale property destruction took place. However, no one seems to be defending the approach of the police and police men cannot speak out due to the discipline associated with the job.
However, while police are blamed severely, the atrocious acts of arsonists have not been commented upon much, probably under the impression that arsonists and rioters would be only conducting themselves like this. Only the victims were interviewed and the horror stories prominently highlighted, to create sensation.
Almost all people seem to agree that the riots were pre planned very well and many think that it was part of international Islamic terrorist movement. Obviously, the violence have been planned to coincide with Trump's visit to teach a lesson or two to Trump and Modi, who are both hated by the Islamic terrorists.
The critics say that intelligence failure in the police is the root cause for the problem and for police blamed for not making preventive arrests earlier.
However, it should be noted that Islamic terrorists make clever plans with high level of secrecy and believe in surprise attacks and guerilla tactics. Even advanced country like USA could not prevent the September,11 attack on twin towers. Equally, several European countries including Russia which have strong intelligence agencies could not anticipate several violent attacks by terrorists in public places.
While it may be partly true that there have been intelligence failure by Delhi police, it should be recognized that such inadequate intelligence is not uncommon even in developed countries with sophisticated scientific systems, particularly with regard to intelligence on terrorist acts.
However, one gets an impression that Delhi police could have been generally aware of some disturbance to come and perhaps, this is why police force was in strength in trouble spots during the two days of riots.
In all probability , the police force might have been under instructions to handle the situation carefully and tactfully and as softly as possible , during the two days of President Trump's visit. Probably , police thought that the riots would not be as severe as it was . On the other hand, if the police had taken strong action against the arsonists who are motivated and determined extremists, it would have resulted in shootings . In such case, the same media and critics would have blamed the police in severe terms for brutalities and "mass murder". U N Human Rights Council would have "eloquently" commented about the situation and condemned Delhi police.
Apart from sensation seeking Indian media , there are also section of Western media like BBC, New York Times and some lobbyists in Western countries who seem to be all the time looking for negative developments in India, probably to show case that India as restless country with deep communal differences. Such media , while not highlighting the extremely warm and huge reception accorded to President Trump, only highlighted the violent riots that took place during Trump's visit.
All said and done, the violence ended when President Trump left India and the objectives of Islamic terrorists to paint Indian Prime Minister in bad light partly succeeded.
My appeal is that let not doubts be created about the commitment and competence of Delhi police without analysis of the situation.
India is a target place for Islamic terrorists today and they will leave no stone unturned to cause problems for India in variety of ways. The fact is that world is not helping India in fighting against terrorism , which include UNO and all of them are watching from galleries.
In such circumstances, the fight against terrorism in India has to be essentially faced and won only by India, confronting the terrorists operating from abroad as well as in India.
N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
"Meanwhile, Delhi Police has also become sensitive about the issues related to dogs. Now pet owners are easily getting the registrations of missing complaints done at the concerned police stations.
Dependra Pathak, joint commissioner of police and the spokesperson of Delhi Police said: 'Whenever there will be a complaint, FIR will be registered. Be it for a human or an animal. Cops have also been instructed to take action."
ToIndia Against CorruptionDELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
Almost all section of Indian media and most of the critics have blamed the Delhi police for the riots for two days ,when many innocent lives were lost and many were injured and large scale property destruction took place. However, no one seems to be defending the approach of the police and police men cannot speak out due to the discipline associated with the job.
However, while police are blamed severely, the atrocious acts of arsonists have not been commented upon much, probably under the impression that arsonists and rioters would be only conducting themselves like this. Only the victims were interviewed and the horror stories prominently highlighted, to create sensation.
Almost all people seem to agree that the riots were pre planned very well and many think that it was part of international Islamic terrorist movement. Obviously, the violence have been planned to coincide with Trump's visit to teach a lesson or two to Trump and Modi, who are both hated by the Islamic terrorists.
The critics say that intelligence failure in the police is the root cause for the problem and for police blamed for not making preventive arrests earlier.
However, it should be noted that Islamic terrorists make clever plans with high level of secrecy and believe in surprise attacks and guerilla tactics. Even advanced country like USA could not prevent the September,11 attack on twin towers. Equally, several European countries including Russia which have strong intelligence agencies could not anticipate several violent attacks by terrorists in public places.
While it may be partly true that there have been intelligence failure by Delhi police, it should be recognized that such inadequate intelligence is not uncommon even in developed countries with sophisticated scientific systems, particularly with regard to intelligence on terrorist acts.
However, one gets an impression that Delhi police could have been generally aware of some disturbance to come and perhaps, this is why police force was in strength in trouble spots during the two days of riots.
In all probability , the police force might have been under instructions to handle the situation carefully and tactfully and as softly as possible , during the two days of President Trump's visit. Probably , police thought that the riots would not be as severe as it was . On the other hand, if the police had taken strong action against the arsonists who are motivated and determined extremists, it would have resulted in shootings . In such case, the same media and critics would have blamed the police in severe terms for brutalities and "mass murder". U N Human Rights Council would have "eloquently" commented about the situation and condemned Delhi police.
Apart from sensation seeking Indian media , there are also section of Western media like BBC, New York Times and some lobbyists in Western countries who seem to be all the time looking for negative developments in India, probably to show case that India as restless country with deep communal differences. Such media , while not highlighting the extremely warm and huge reception accorded to President Trump, only highlighted the violent riots that took place during Trump's visit.
All said and done, the violence ended when President Trump left India and the objectives of Islamic terrorists to paint Indian Prime Minister in bad light partly succeeded.
My appeal is that let not doubts be created about the commitment and competence of Delhi police without analysis of the situation.
India is a target place for Islamic terrorists today and they will leave no stone unturned to cause problems for India in variety of ways. The fact is that world is not helping India in fighting against terrorism , which include UNO and all of them are watching from galleries.
In such circumstances, the fight against terrorism in India has to be essentially faced and won only by India, confronting the terrorists operating from abroad as well as in India.
N.S.Venkataraman
Sunday, March 1, 2020
Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: WILL SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ARUN MISHRA BE ANOTHER P. SATHASIVAM?
Should apply to all Class 1 Govt Officials (IAS, IPS, IRS, Defence etc) who are normally in any official position to provide favours in any form.Deepak VermaPost: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:26 PM AMARIA <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Fully endorse.I personally feel the same should apply to ourtop Heads of Army, Navy & Airforce and other para...forces as NOT TO appt. them as Governors of States,Ambassadors to foreign countries, e.t.c.JAI HIND!!!AMARIA, BOMAN E.a Veteran"For those who believe in GODNo explanation is necessary,For those who do not believe in GODNo explanation is possible.!!!"----- Forwarded message -----From: Aires Rodrigues <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>Sent: Friday 28 February 2020, 5:38:14 PM ISTSubject: [IAC#RG] WILL SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ARUN MISHRA BE ANOTHER P. SATHASIVAM?Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"The loyalty of every Judge in our country has to be only to the very sacred Constitution of India. The recent eulogizing of Prime Minister Narendra Modi by Supreme Court Judge Arun Mishra was totally uncalled for an in utter bad taste. Justice Mishra who is due to retire on 2nd September went well overboard. . We all saw how then Chief Justice of India P. Sathasivam who within weeks of his retirement was rewarded by Narendra Modi with an appointment on 31st August 2014 as the Governor of Kerala.
As a desperate BJP wants to overpower the Judiciary too, there is a very disturbing disquiet over the slippery slope on which judicial values are slithering. With Narendra Modi all out to corrode and corrupt even the Independence of the Judiciary, to ensure the highest standards of judicial independence and to ward off even the faintest trace of governmental influence on the judiciary, there needs to be at least a two year "cooling off period" for retiring judges before they accept any post retirement posting.
As judicial independence of Judges rests entirely on maintaining an incorruptible detachment from the government of the day, it cannot be allowed to be morally compromised by lobbying for cushy post-retirement sinecure postings. We have witnessed instances where Judges have fixed their retirement nests much prior to even demitting office.
In times when the Indian Judiciary is passing through a very turbulent phase, this "jobs-for-the-judges" syndrome could place judges potentially open to governmental influence leaving scope for "pre-retirement judgments" being predisposed by the craving of a "post-retirement job".
A former Chief Justice of India Justice R M Lodha led by example that judges should not take any constitutional or other position at least two years after demitting office. The Constitution of India is very clear on the distinct roles of the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary. It envisages a free, fair and independent Judiciary. The highest standards of judicial independence must be ensured by warding off even the faintest trace of governmental influence on the judiciary.
The demand to keep Supreme Court and High Court Judges away from immediately taking such post retirement benefits becomes the need of the hour and will thus ensure that those about to retire do not run behind those in the establishment thus giving a death knell to the independence of the judiciary. There is a need of concerted efforts towards propping up highest standards of judicial accountability.
The Judiciary should never be manned by persons who are tilted or aligned to any political party. Judges should have the spine to crack on illegalities done by all politicians, regardless of how high positions they hold. It has to be ensured that judicial accountability is maintained at all times with every Judge conforming to the highest standards of uprightness and integrity. If Judges cannot independently balance the scales of Justice, the Temples of Justice become pointless ending up as dens of chicanery and jugglery.
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Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"ToIndia Against CorruptionDELHI POLICE – SINNED OR SINNED AGAINST ?
Almost all section of Indian media and most of the critics have blamed the Delhi police for the riots for two days ,when many innocent lives were lost and many were injured and large scale property destruction took place. However, no one seems to be defending the approach of the police and police men cannot speak out due to the discipline associated with the job.
However, while police are blamed severely, the atrocious acts of arsonists have not been commented upon much, probably under the impression that arsonists and rioters would be only conducting themselves like this. Only the victims were interviewed and the horror stories prominently highlighted, to create sensation.
Almost all people seem to agree that the riots were pre planned very well and many think that it was part of international Islamic terrorist movement. Obviously, the violence have been planned to coincide with Trump's visit to teach a lesson or two to Trump and Modi, who are both hated by the Islamic terrorists.
The critics say that intelligence failure in the police is the root cause for the problem and for police blamed for not making preventive arrests earlier.
However, it should be noted that Islamic terrorists make clever plans with high level of secrecy and believe in surprise attacks and guerilla tactics. Even advanced country like USA could not prevent the September,11 attack on twin towers. Equally, several European countries including Russia which have strong intelligence agencies could not anticipate several violent attacks by terrorists in public places.
While it may be partly true that there have been intelligence failure by Delhi police, it should be recognized that such inadequate intelligence is not uncommon even in developed countries with sophisticated scientific systems, particularly with regard to intelligence on terrorist acts.
However, one gets an impression that Delhi police could have been generally aware of some disturbance to come and perhaps, this is why police force was in strength in trouble spots during the two days of riots.
In all probability , the police force might have been under instructions to handle the situation carefully and tactfully and as softly as possible , during the two days of President Trump's visit. Probably , police thought that the riots would not be as severe as it was . On the other hand, if the police had taken strong action against the arsonists who are motivated and determined extremists, it would have resulted in shootings . In such case, the same media and critics would have blamed the police in severe terms for brutalities and "mass murder". U N Human Rights Council would have "eloquently" commented about the situation and condemned Delhi police.
Apart from sensation seeking Indian media , there are also section of Western media like BBC, New York Times and some lobbyists in Western countries who seem to be all the time looking for negative developments in India, probably to show case that India as restless country with deep communal differences. Such media , while not highlighting the extremely warm and huge reception accorded to President Trump, only highlighted the violent riots that took place during Trump's visit.
All said and done, the violence ended when President Trump left India and the objectives of Islamic terrorists to paint Indian Prime Minister in bad light partly succeeded.
My appeal is that let not doubts be created about the commitment and competence of Delhi police without analysis of the situation.
India is a target place for Islamic terrorists today and they will leave no stone unturned to cause problems for India in variety of ways. The fact is that world is not helping India in fighting against terrorism , which include UNO and all of them are watching from galleries.
In such circumstances, the fight against terrorism in India has to be essentially faced and won only by India, confronting the terrorists operating from abroad as well as in India.
N.S.Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: WILL SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ARUN MISHRA BE ANOTHER P. SATHASIVAM?
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Fully endorse.I personally feel the same should apply to ourtop Heads of Army, Navy & Airforce and other para...forces as NOT TO appt. them as Governors of States,Ambassadors to foreign countries, e.t.c.JAI HIND!!!AMARIA, BOMAN E.a Veteran"For those who believe in GODNo explanation is necessary,For those who do not believe in GODNo explanation is possible.!!!"----- Forwarded message -----From: Aires Rodrigues <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>Sent: Friday 28 February 2020, 5:38:14 PM ISTSubject: [IAC#RG] WILL SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ARUN MISHRA BE ANOTHER P. SATHASIVAM?Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"The loyalty of every Judge in our country has to be only to the very sacred Constitution of India. The recent eulogizing of Prime Minister Narendra Modi by Supreme Court Judge Arun Mishra was totally uncalled for an in utter bad taste. Justice Mishra who is due to retire on 2nd September went well overboard. . We all saw how then Chief Justice of India P. Sathasivam who within weeks of his retirement was rewarded by Narendra Modi with an appointment on 31st August 2014 as the Governor of Kerala.
As a desperate BJP wants to overpower the Judiciary too, there is a very disturbing disquiet over the slippery slope on which judicial values are slithering. With Narendra Modi all out to corrode and corrupt even the Independence of the Judiciary, to ensure the highest standards of judicial independence and to ward off even the faintest trace of governmental influence on the judiciary, there needs to be at least a two year "cooling off period" for retiring judges before they accept any post retirement posting.
As judicial independence of Judges rests entirely on maintaining an incorruptible detachment from the government of the day, it cannot be allowed to be morally compromised by lobbying for cushy post-retirement sinecure postings. We have witnessed instances where Judges have fixed their retirement nests much prior to even demitting office.
In times when the Indian Judiciary is passing through a very turbulent phase, this "jobs-for-the-judges" syndrome could place judges potentially open to governmental influence leaving scope for "pre-retirement judgments" being predisposed by the craving of a "post-retirement job".
A former Chief Justice of India Justice R M Lodha led by example that judges should not take any constitutional or other position at least two years after demitting office. The Constitution of India is very clear on the distinct roles of the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary. It envisages a free, fair and independent Judiciary. The highest standards of judicial independence must be ensured by warding off even the faintest trace of governmental influence on the judiciary.
The demand to keep Supreme Court and High Court Judges away from immediately taking such post retirement benefits becomes the need of the hour and will thus ensure that those about to retire do not run behind those in the establishment thus giving a death knell to the independence of the judiciary. There is a need of concerted efforts towards propping up highest standards of judicial accountability.
The Judiciary should never be manned by persons who are tilted or aligned to any political party. Judges should have the spine to crack on illegalities done by all politicians, regardless of how high positions they hold. It has to be ensured that judicial accountability is maintained at all times with every Judge conforming to the highest standards of uprightness and integrity. If Judges cannot independently balance the scales of Justice, the Temples of Justice become pointless ending up as dens of chicanery and jugglery.
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Re: [IAC#RG] HOW TO DEAL WITH MOTIVATED AGITATORS AND TERRORISTS ?
While there may be no doubt that CAA is constitutionally valid. However, it may be worth noting that agitating ladies in Delhi/UP are not foreigners who may benefit out of the anti CAA agitation.As can be seen from the interviews of agitating people by the media, agitation seems to have been born out of mistrust of the Government's intentions. This distrust seems to have been formed by repeated speeches of the leaders of ruling party threatening the people of minority religion as also discrepancy between these speeches from top leaders, which the Goverment has failed to clarify inspite of repeated requests of agitators. It may be noted that Govt leaders have spoken in election speeches and in gatherings of immigrants of majority community regarding benefits to majority community with CAA, they have almost been no initiative to speak to the gatherings of agitators to reassure them. Format of NPR has further created doubts in the minds of illiterate/farm labourers/ daily wagers etc of minority community, who do not know their own birthday, what to speak of place of birth and birthday of their parents. While the same is the case with their brothers of majority community of the same level, the later get covered by CAA and therefore have nothing to worry about. Evidently, it is for this reason, that Bihar Govt has decided to delete these columns to create trust of the minority community. From the statements of agitating ladies, who seem to be aware of implications, it seems that if the Central Govt takes the same decision as taken by Bihar and clarifies the contradictory statements about nation vide NRC, agitations will disappear.R.N.MalhotraOn Saturday, February 29, 2020, 07:42:29 PM GMT+5:30, Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Sri Venkatraman,
Broadly agreeing with your views, I think that the CAA matter should be seen in the light of the following factors:
- The CAA is constitutionally valid. The guarantee of right to equality under Article 14 of the Constitution should be read with Article 15 which prohibits discrimination amongst citizens on the grounds of religion. The upshot is that discrimination amongst non-citizens is not prohibited. This distinction is reasonable and understandable, otherwise aliens would get all the rights of citizens. The matter is before Supreme Court and any reasonable person would have waited for the result. The agitation is an attempt to derail the due process of law.
- No person or body has taken the responsibility of starting the agitation against CAA.
- The effect of CAA will come to be known when it is implemented; the agitation is calculated to prevent its implementation ab initio.
- The only beneficiaries of the agitation, openly pronounced, are those Muslims who are foreigners.
- Non-Muslims who have joined the agitation are persons interested in overthrow of BJP Government so that they get an opportunity to capture power.
- Illegal Immigrants are obviously a threat to India's Security and Sovereignty; no Country wants illegal immigrants.
- Knowingly or unknowingly, the agitation has the effect of promoting Pan-Islamic Ideology. India's experience with Partition has been very sad. Before Partition, India was Secular. After Partition, while India continued to be Secular, the parted portions of India became Constitutionally Islamic. "Islamic Republic", which Pakistan claims to be is a contradiction in terms. There cannot be a 'Republic' which is Islamic; it is essentially a Communal State. What this change means, is clearly before our eyes: Religious denominations, other than Islamic, are decimated. Hindu population in Pakistan/Bangladesh is reduced to non-entity from a sizeable one at the time of partition. The forced exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from Kashmir Valley in 1989-90, which the then governments slept over, is a living proof of brutality in an effort to destroy Hindu identity in that area. Can there be any wrong if such displaced Hindus are given citizenship of India as of right?
Thankfully, Sri Ranga Rao has recognised the need to identify illegal immigrants in Assam; why should it not extend to whole of India? When will the 'right time' come in his noble opinion? Has the waiting for 75 years not been sufficient? It is the current Government which has picked courage to solve the problem and preserve India's Security and Sovereignty.
A dispassionate consideration of these factors will establish that, as a plain Human Right, the displaced non-Muslims should be absorbed in India and illegal Muslim immigrants must not be given citizenship as of right. Of course, in individual Muslim cases citizenship may be granted for proper reasons; CAA does not stand in their way.
In the matter of public provocation by politicians, both Muslims and non-Muslims individuals/groups blurt out; and both must be answerable to Law. The Law will take its course, sooner than later.
The CAA, NPR & NRC are appropriate and necessary.
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A clever transgression from the issue that has broken an artery of Delhi society.
R.N.Malhotra
On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 12:22:59 PM GMT+5:30, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Mr. Venkatraman
I think it is FACTUALLY INCORRECT to say that "Islamic group" have been agitating against CAA.
The truth is that HINDU GROUPS are also and equally agitating against CAA, albeit for different reasons.
For Hindus we proclaim,
Firstly, partition took place in 1947 and the Citizenship laws of India and Pakistan followed a few years later.
Secondly, India has absorbed enough Muslims, Buddhists and atheists from Tibet, Burma, Afghanistan and Bangladesh as refugees since then.
As we have also said consistently, since day 1 of this list, AAP and BJP are 2 sides of the same USA sponsored coin. It is an open secret that AAP won in Delhi 2020 because of a tacit understanding with BJP. It is for Arvind Kejriwal to explain how motivated agitators like Kapil Mishra (who comes from an RSS family as does Kejriwal, Sisodia etc.) was a cabinet minister in his AAP government.
What we at IAC really ought to be looking at is why INDIA is sucking up to USA and awarding big-ticket deals to them at highly inflated prices. Are we to be the next "designed in USA" failed fundamentalist US client-state-nation like Pakistan and Iran who all had US backed dictators to purchase the output of US arms manufacturers ?
I remind you, that we PROUD HINDUS (not ashamed to say who we are) are still to see any 50% countervailing export from Anil Ambani group ( which has just declared BANKRUPTCY) in overpriced RAFALE deal. As HINDUS we are concerned that MODI (bania OBC) and AMIT SHAH (Jain posing as Hindu) 2nd. EAST INDIA COMPANY have converted HINDUSTAN into dumping ground of consumers for US MNCs like AMAZON, WALMART, FACEBOOK, GOOGLE, if this is not overseas 2nd EAST INDIA COMPANY Government then we don't know what is.
Modi welcoming Trump is like visit of George punchum in 1911 to be crowned Emperor of India.
Finally, do you really want Yogi Adityanath (or Arvind Kejriwal) as India's next Prime Minister ?
Sarbajit Roy
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:44 AM Venkatraman Ns <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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India Against Corruption
HOW TO DEAL WITH MOTIVATED AGITATORS AND TERRORISTS ?
For the last several days, some members of the Islamic group have been agitating against CAA. Now they are blocking roads in Delhi, Chennai and other places, though the government has assured that CAA would not affect any citizen of India and judiciary have banned such road blocking protests .
But, the agitators are determined to continue with road blockade. Obviously, they want to create a law and order situation, so that the government will forcibly remove them which will lead to stone throwing, violence, lathi charge and may even be firing.
Probably, the agitators want to create a situation where India will look like a disturbed country and draw the attention of the world and discredit the government. Of course, some Islamic countries and some opposition parties in India will call the government action as suppression of freedom and minority oppression.
Can anyone tell me how the government of India should deal with this situation.? So far, government of India has been extremely patient and silently watching. How long can this continue ?
N.S.Venkataraman
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