Re: [HumJanenge] Re: 100 Years of our National Anthem washed away by corrupt activists

Their has, and rightly so, a lot of noice about corruption, both in
print and electronic media. No doubt it is one single ill that
constraints development and progress. We in all our wisdom have
identified the culprits of such rampant corruption ( the politican &
the babu ) .However one needs to introspect why things have come to
this state. In my perception the gradual with-drawl of the literate
class from main stream politics and making way to undesirable elements
to manage the affairs of the state. this group are nothing but a lot
seekers who are there to further their own interests. In this the 2
major political parties are the main culprits, not to mention the
small parties who have taken on the mantle of making/breaking the
government. The electorate keeps on sending these elements time and
again to become lawmakers. To obviate this ill the awakening movement
started by Annaji ought to concentrate on motivating the the aam admi
to send the right person to the assembly/parliament. The forth coming
elections in 5 states could be availed to initiate this movement. The
process will be , on doubt, slow moving, but its divedents could be
reaped by the generations to come.

P K Pradhan

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Victor
>
> The reason a few people (not several) occasionally get a few strong
> words from me is because I (as group moderator) cannot permit fools
> and foolishness on this group for the larger benefit of our
> "intellectual" membership.
>
> As an example of foolishness I take up your latest statement
>
> "Now, if one would care for an analysis, one would find that more
> corrupt a nation, the more backward it is in terms of broad economic
> and social parameters.  That should in itself put an end to the
> usefulness of corruption."
>
> I take this to mean that you find a "positive" CORRELATION between
> corruption and backwardness in nations. I also presume you mean that
> if corruption was to reduce then  backwardness would too. Probably you
> mean that corruption is a CAUSE for backwardness.
>
> This is a completely FALLACIOUS argument - although it is appealing to
> simple minded folks to whom Anna Hazare and his ilk addresses.
>
> Please read this, it is one of the basis things we were taught at
> engineering university (2nd year during one of the statistics
> courses).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
>
> If you have any query / concerns, I would would be happen to assist you.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 12/30/11, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear Mr. Sarbajit:
>> Several members, including myself, have felt the unwarranted searing heat
>> from your pen.
>> You may (or may not) be the intellectual, but it would be better to read
>> temperate words and discussions.
>> Now, if one would care for an analysis, one would find that more corrupt a
>> nation, the more backward it is in terms of broad economic and social
>> parameters.  That should in itself put an end to the usefulness of
>> corruption.  Of course, one may argue with definitions, but then, one can
>> argue with and about anything.
>> To my mind, corruption is a serious issue; indeed it is THE ONLY ISSUE in a
>> country where maybe 50% go hungry to bed, where justice takes decades, where
>> an unemployable neta racks up 100 crores within a decade of "public
>> service", where the Planning Commission wants to declare Rs 30 or 40 as the
>> dividing line of poverty',  where China was behind us on all social and
>> economic parameters till just 40 odd years ago, but now is typically, 4
>> times ahead, .... ad infinatum.
>> Whatever one may agree or disagree with, let us use our words
>> more judicially.
>> Regards,
>> Victor