Sunday, March 25, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] DEFICIENCIES observed in Annaji's satyagraha from March23rd 2018

It  is good to read your letter to Anna Hazare.

The country spontaneously responded when Anna Hazare launched his anti corruption fast a few years back. The event after his fast proved  that a number  of his lieutenants used the publicity and support for the fast to benefit themselves in politics and Anna Hazare could not control them. . Number of his earlier supporters now stand without credibility with regard to their anti corruption commitment and they are now in powerful positions.

Many people wonder as to from where Anna Hazare get all the fund support to launch such fast once again, which appears to be looking like a glamorous affair. Obviously, it requires copnsiderable fund support to organise such event. Transperancy is a very important aspect for any credible movement.

Mahatma Gandhi said that a man of truth should also be a man of care.

After the massive fast several years back which did not produce results, Anna Hazare repeating the same thing make people wonder whether publicity is more important than actual achievement.

The battle for anti corruption has to be fought in the minds of Indians, as cross section of people whether belonging to lower, higher or middle income group, educated and uneducated  apart from politicians involve themselves in corrupt activities as a taker of bribe or a giver of bribe.

Anna Hazare does not seem to have taken any efforts to fight corruption in the mindset of the people. 

However, I know that there are several people at individual level who are fighting corruption and making personal sacrifices for the cause. Anna Hazare would be doing greater service by identifying and highlighting such people and showing them as role models to the country.

Second fast after the much publicised massive fast on earlier occasion  when several so called anti corruption crusaders gained for themselves by  posing themselves as Anna Hazare's supporters, is bringing  the method of fasting to fight corruption to ridicule.

N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived


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To:
Bhrastachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas
(Anna Office)
Ralegan Siddhi

BY EMAIL

Kind Attn: Shri Anna Hazare and other trustees BVJAN

Dear Annaji

Pranam

We at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan were delighted to observe you from afar at Ramlila Maidan when we visited on March 24 2018 and made a token contribution to your trust.

As fellow activists and concerned non-political citizens who have participated with you for over a decade in various RTI and social programs please read our genuine comments / brotherly advice on your present andolan / satyagraha very carefully.

1.  It is a sin to God, and a criminal offence under the Indian Penal Code, to take affidavits from innocent activists and victims of scams as a precondition to join your anti-corruption movement which contain declaration(s) that the deponent promises to never join political party(s) or stand for political office in the future. It appears that you are unware that India is a democracy and participation in politics / democracy is a fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution of India only suspended during times of Emergency. Accordingly the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is constrained to protest that your BVJAN membership affidavits are either (a) deceitful devices to filter out those opposed to corruption.from participation in democractic processes or (b) to locate independent persons to be sucked into a certain political party. .

2. There is rampant misuse of NATIONAL FLAG (tiranga) at your satyagrahas. If it had been anybody else but you, the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION would have put the offenders in jail by now. eg.

a) We are unable to tolerate that numerous ladies you brought from Maharashtra were draped in the tiranga (tricolor) and as such using the open latrines one had to pass through to enter the venue of your protest because Modi Sarkar's intolerant Govt had blocked all other access gates to your protest site except the one entrance which passed throgh these open latrines where Swach Bharat mission has not yet reached..

b) We are unable to tolerate that you have placed yourself above the National flag and were speaking from a raised platform high above the National Flag.

c) We are unable to tolerate that you are waving the National Flag when the Flag Code of India and Supreme Court judgments (eg. Navin Jindal versus UoI) only permit private citizens to wave paper flags and that too on nationally important occasions / days.

d) You should know that fund raising organisations like trusts and societes are specifically barred from using the National Emblems in a way to lower the public esteem of the emblem or to dishonour them..

e) The venue of your satygraha is alongside Asaf Ali Road, New Delhi named in honour of Shri Asaf Ali whose wife Smt. Aruna (nee Ganguly) Asaf Ali raised the tiranga at Azad Maidan to ignite Gandhi's Quit India movement when all national leaders had been arrested. You will surely recall that the British wanted Indians to salute their flag "Union Jack" and Aruna Ganguly's brave act of raising the flag of India was a protest against that Government and its Union Jack flag. Hence, we at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION cannot understand why you insist on waving the flag of the very Governments you claim to be protestng against. If yours was a true act of protest against the Government you would have waved the Union Jack at your Satyagraha to remind the present Govt that they should stop behaving like the East India Company.

3) We at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION are unable to understand why you are associating wth and supporting the Staff of the PACL Ponzi scam who were instrumental in deceiving lakhs of innocent investors out from their savings. Even today all that these staffers and their unions want is for PACL to restart business so that their PONZI scams wil continue.

4) Lastly, we are unable to understand why some BJP workers close to Ms. Kiran Bedi, and who were earlier in Aam Aadmi Party are on your latest Core Committee. This is probably the reason why many disillusioned persons prefer to stay away from your anshans and consider you a BJP / RSS agent yourself.

We sincerely implore you not to continue your satyagraha unless the above mentioned deficiencies are corrected

sincerely

Jai Hind


Sarbajit Roy
for INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION

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[IAC#RG] DEFICIENCIES observed in Annaji's satyagraha from March 23rd 2018

To:
Bhrastachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas
(Anna Office)
Ralegan Siddhi

BY EMAIL

Kind Attn: Shri Anna Hazare and other trustees BVJAN

Dear Annaji

Pranam

We at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan were delighted to observe you from afar at Ramlila Maidan when we visited on March 24 2018 and made a token contribution to your trust.

As fellow activists and concerned non-political citizens who have participated with you for over a decade in various RTI and social programs please read our genuine comments / brotherly advice on your present andolan / satyagraha very carefully.

1.  It is a sin to God, and a criminal offence under the Indian Penal Code, to take affidavits from innocent activists and victims of scams as a precondition to join your anti-corruption movement which contain declaration(s) that the deponent promises to never join political party(s) or stand for political office in the future. It appears that you are unware that India is a democracy and participation in politics / democracy is a fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution of India only suspended during times of Emergency. Accordingly the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is constrained to protest that your BVJAN membership affidavits are either (a) deceitful devices to filter out those opposed to corruption.from participation in democractic processes or (b) to locate independent persons to be sucked into a certain political party. .

2. There is rampant misuse of NATIONAL FLAG (tiranga) at your satyagrahas. If it had been anybody else but you, the INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION would have put the offenders in jail by now. eg.

a) We are unable to tolerate that numerous ladies you brought from Maharashtra were draped in the tiranga (tricolor) and as such using the open latrines one had to pass through to enter the venue of your protest because Modi Sarkar's intolerant Govt had blocked all other access gates to your protest site except the one entrance which passed throgh these open latrines where Swach Bharat mission has not yet reached..

b) We are unable to tolerate that you have placed yourself above the National flag and were speaking from a raised platform high above the National Flag.

c) We are unable to tolerate that you are waving the National Flag when the Flag Code of India and Supreme Court judgments (eg. Navin Jindal versus UoI) only permit private citizens to wave paper flags and that too on nationally important occasions / days.

d) You should know that fund raising organisations like trusts and societes are specifically barred from using the National Emblems in a way to lower the public esteem of the emblem or to dishonour them..

e) The venue of your satygraha is alongside Asaf Ali Road, New Delhi named in honour of Shri Asaf Ali whose wife Smt. Aruna (nee Ganguly) Asaf Ali raised the tiranga at Azad Maidan to ignite Gandhi's Quit India movement when all national leaders had been arrested. You will surely recall that the British wanted Indians to salute their flag "Union Jack" and Aruna Ganguly's brave act of raising the flag of India was a protest against that Government and its Union Jack flag. Hence, we at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION cannot understand why you insist on waving the flag of the very Governments you claim to be protestng against. If yours was a true act of protest against the Government you would have waved the Union Jack at your Satyagraha to remind the present Govt that they should stop behaving like the East India Company.

3) We at INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION are unable to understand why you are associating wth and supporting the Staff of the PACL Ponzi scam who were instrumental in deceiving lakhs of innocent investors out from their savings. Even today all that these staffers and their unions want is for PACL to restart business so that their PONZI scams wil continue.

4) Lastly, we are unable to understand why some BJP workers close to Ms. Kiran Bedi, and who were earlier in Aam Aadmi Party are on your latest Core Committee. This is probably the reason why many disillusioned persons prefer to stay away from your anshans and consider you a BJP / RSS agent yourself.

We sincerely implore you not to continue your satyagraha unless the above mentioned deficiencies are corrected

sincerely

Jai Hind


Sarbajit Roy
for INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION

Saturday, March 24, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE

Mr Venkataraman,
This should be copied to the Chief Justice of India too, it is too important an issue to exclude the Judiciary from its purview.

Capt Vijay Shivdasani Retd IN
Mumbai
9821147720


On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, "national network center for innovation" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
There is a TOTAL COLLAPSE of Merit based HRD system in India – On page 19 TOI Aug 6, 2016 news item caption being 34% of State mantris face criminal cases.
 
Page 10 TOI March 12, 2018 reporting an increase of 2% – 36% of all MPs, MLAs facing criminal charges – 1765 Law Makers Being Tried: Centre to SC
 
Instead of Mandate to reduce Tainted, on the contrary, they have INCREAESD!
 
We have our best playing & representing India in Shooting, Badminton, Cricket, Hockey – likewise we have to ensure they be MLAs, MPs right the way up after 73rd
+ 74th after CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 1992.
 
CITIZENS rise – soon it will be a collective thrust to GET Ministry of Law & Justice + ECI to stop being CAGED PARROTS OF RULING PARTIES but be INDEPENDENT bodies.
 
consensus posting, NNFI CIRI Civil Society Allnc for 15 years, Trustee, promod
New Delhi based www.nnfi.org.in

 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:58 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
 
 
To

India Against Corruption
 
 
                                                                                                 HOW  TO  MAKE  MPs  AND  MLAs  BEHAVE

 

Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.
 
The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well, shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.
 
Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions expressed are given below.
 
1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the present conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament and assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs. In the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India and Indians all over the world.
 
2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply allow the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by simply making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps to impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of parliament and assemblies.
 
3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no solution.
 
4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of all MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session would not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.
 
5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions, then seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours of disruption.
 
 
6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial action.
 
All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of democracy as a form of quality governance.
 
Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.
 
 
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived
 


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Re: [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE

There is a TOTAL COLLAPSE of Merit based HRD system in India – On page 19 TOI Aug 6, 2016 news item caption being 34% of State mantris face criminal cases.
 
Page 10 TOI March 12, 2018 reporting an increase of 2% – 36% of all MPs, MLAs facing criminal charges – 1765 Law Makers Being Tried: Centre to SC
 
Instead of Mandate to reduce Tainted, on the contrary, they have INCREAESD!
 
We have our best playing & representing India in Shooting, Badminton, Cricket, Hockey – likewise we have to ensure they be MLAs, MPs right the way up after 73rd
+ 74th after CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 1992.
 
CITIZENS rise – soon it will be a collective thrust to GET Ministry of Law & Justice + ECI to stop being CAGED PARROTS OF RULING PARTIES but be INDEPENDENT bodies.
 
consensus posting, NNFI CIRI Civil Society Allnc for 15 years, Trustee, promod
New Delhi based www.nnfi.org.in

 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:58 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
 
 
To

India Against Corruption
 
 
                                                                                                 HOW  TO  MAKE  MPs  AND  MLAs  BEHAVE

 

Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.
 
The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well, shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.
 
Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions expressed are given below.
 
1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the present conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament and assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs. In the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India and Indians all over the world.
 
2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply allow the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by simply making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps to impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of parliament and assemblies.
 
3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no solution.
 
4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of all MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session would not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.
 
5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions, then seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours of disruption.
 
 
6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial action.
 
All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of democracy as a form of quality governance.
 
Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.
 
 
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived
 


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Thursday, March 22, 2018

Re: [IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: ANNA HAZARE anshan at Ram Lila Maidan

It is a simple matter

Maharashtra Goverment is rattled by lakhs of Communist farmers descending on Mumbai and painting city red color

So now old RSS warhorse Anna Hazare has been coached to assemble 10 lakh farmers in Arvind Kejriwal's Delhi and paint NCR in saffron. Wait and watch the publicity Anna will get from pressitute Modi media and how many RSS in plainclothes are there as Anna "volunteers".

RP Dalvi

 

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:00 AM, Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
To :
1) Members of INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION
2) The public at large
3) The Commisssioner of Police, New Delhi

DATE: 23 March 2018

Be it known as follows:-

That Shri Anna Hazare is not a member of INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION and has never been a member of INDIA AGAINST CORUPTION.

That we are informed that Shri Anna Hazare's anshan at RamLila Maidan, New Delhi (Distt. Central, PS Kamala Market) beginning today is organised by his trust styled as "Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas" (BVJAN) and the permissions have been taken in such name.

That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is not associated with Shri Anna Hazare's anshan in any way and neither supports it nor opposes it, except to the extent that INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is opposed to Lokpal / Ombudsman Act and denounces it as a device imposed by foreign imperialists.

That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is informed that Anna Hazare and other office bearers of "Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas" (BVJAN) had been suspended by the Charity Commissioner, Pune (Maharashtra) for various illegalities and the trust had thereafter proceeded under administrators and stay orders of court. The BVJAN website also does not disclose their audited accounts after about 2010 to the public, and a complaint for Shri Anna Hazare's various trust accounts was pending in Supreme Court of India.

The INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION does not collect money or donations from anybody. However, it has come to our knowledge that Shri Anna Hazare had floated very many front / dummy organisations to raise huge amounts of money from the public, mostly still unaccounted for, through a device of membership affidavit and annual subscriptions etc.. These fronts bore names llike  "Jan Tantra Morcha" and "IAC Volunteers Association" etc. and were notorious for deceitfully misusing the National Flag (in violation of Flag Code of India) to induce innocent people to part with their money (ie. offence of cheating).

The INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is not responsible for any cheating carried out by these aforesaid persons / bodies or others like them. It is reiterated that INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION does not accept or solicit donations, and that Shri Anna Hazare has nothing to do with INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION or vice versa.

A copy of this communication is being sent to Commissioner of Police, New Delhi, for his information and the record,


Issued by




Er. SarbaJit Roy
National Convenor
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
Mob: +91-8010205897

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[IAC#RG] PUBLIC NOTICE: ANNA HAZARE anshan at Ram Lila Maidan

To :
1) Members of INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION
2) The public at large
3) The Commisssioner of Police, New Delhi

DATE: 23 March 2018

Be it known as follows:-

That Shri Anna Hazare is not a member of INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION and has never been a member of INDIA AGAINST CORUPTION.

That we are informed that Shri Anna Hazare's anshan at RamLila Maidan, New Delhi (Distt. Central, PS Kamala Market) beginning today is organised by his trust styled as "Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas" (BVJAN) and the permissions have been taken in such name.

That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is not associated with Shri Anna Hazare's anshan in any way and neither supports it nor opposes it, except to the extent that INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is opposed to Lokpal / Ombudsman Act and denounces it as a device imposed by foreign imperialists.

That INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is informed that Anna Hazare and other office bearers of "Bhrashtachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas" (BVJAN) had been suspended by the Charity Commissioner, Pune (Maharashtra) for various illegalities and the trust had thereafter proceeded under administrators and stay orders of court. The BVJAN website also does not disclose their audited accounts after about 2010 to the public, and a complaint for Shri Anna Hazare's various trust accounts was pending in Supreme Court of India.

The INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION does not collect money or donations from anybody. However, it has come to our knowledge that Shri Anna Hazare had floated very many front / dummy organisations to raise huge amounts of money from the public, mostly still unaccounted for, through a device of membership affidavit and annual subscriptions etc.. These fronts bore names llike  "Jan Tantra Morcha" and "IAC Volunteers Association" etc. and were notorious for deceitfully misusing the National Flag (in violation of Flag Code of India) to induce innocent people to part with their money (ie. offence of cheating).

The INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION is not responsible for any cheating carried out by these aforesaid persons / bodies or others like them. It is reiterated that INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION does not accept or solicit donations, and that Shri Anna Hazare has nothing to do with INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION or vice versa.

A copy of this communication is being sent to Commissioner of Police, New Delhi, for his information and the record,


Issued by




Er. SarbaJit Roy
National Convenor
INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION, jan andolan
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
Mob: +91-8010205897

Re: [IAC#RG] If a monkey brain was transplanted into Raul Vinci's skull ....

Dear Shri Malhotra

You know very well that the "mass" of simple people are easily swayed like sheep.

7 Years back when the so-called Lokpal andolan took place, lakhs of people similarly came out on the streets ignorant that they were being brought out of their homes by the very same corrupt governments they thought they were opposing. People like Anna Hazare, Kejriwal, Yogendra Yadav etc etc. were then and continue to be agents of political parties.

I think it is fit that people like yourselves who were in Govt in very senior posts and know how things are manipulated should join Anna Hazare at Ram Lila Gandhi from today. That is the proper place for all the a) corrupt persons, b) desperate brainless masses to be, because the Modi Govt wants you there and is paying for Shri Anna Hazare to be there. The Congress is also supporting Anna Hazare because at the end of the day both these corrupt parties are joined at the hip.

Honest people like us, will continue to do what we do best. Stand apart from politicians and expose the corrupt babus who are too spineless and pliable to stand up to their political overlords. If public servants were honest and upright (and there are still a great many who are honest) while in office (instead of preaching after retirement) the nation would not be in the mess it is today.

rgds

Sarbajit Roy

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 1:45 AM, ravindra malhotra <rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com> wrote:
Following statements made about Mahatma Gandhi could have been made only by a lunatic of the level of Godse. Who is any one like that to pass judgement after 70 years of Independence? Judgement had already been passed by crores of people in those decades when they followed Gandhi in droves, followed every advice of his and finally bestowed the title of 'Father of Nation' on him. People of India loved him and other leaders with him like Nehru, Patel, Abdul Kalam, Pant etc. Veer Savarkar was a bold Krantikari but such individual acts of patriotism do not result in Independence of a Nation of the size of India. That was possible only due to the mobilisation of masses by Mahatma Gandhi and the faith that the people of India placed in Mahatma Gandhi.

Following is only Crap.

  •  some "Mahatma" Gandhi was 'their' alleged nationalist who allegedly fought the British from inside a jail cell for 15 years whilst 'our' "Veer" Savarkar was a disgraceful traitor cavorting in the balmy beaches of Andamans begging the British for clemency
  • What is this country reduced to if BOTH these corrupt parties insist on only promoting the arch traitor Gandhi as the father of our freedom and to exclude and obscure the entire pantheon of Hindustanis (Hindus and Muslims) who died or were jailed for our freedom ?
  •  Let me also say that wings of our parent organisations (after all Hindu Samaj of India was founded in 1849), in the distant past, assassinated MK Gandhi, and we will never ever apologise for it or deny it like the RSS does.

R.N.Malhotra