Saturday, October 22, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!

 
      Dear Sir,
      Please note that the NGOs have been established as a business. They will earn money. Yes, they say that their aim for the business to do some social work (based on YOUR donations).They have to maintain their organization in top form and hence their (internal) pay structire has to be worthy for that> All that it gets are donations and so that is the story. Please note that NGOs (for social obligations) is a basic requirement of Capitalism form of Economics policy. And accordingly this business form also originated in America and has shown its appearance in Bhaarat in recent period only.
      If you refer to a recent issue (13 Jun 2011) of TIME newsmagazine (based on Cancer). There is an article about NGOs established for assistance to Cancer Research. They have illustrated examples of some NGOs collecting millions of dollars. In an year some have spent on research, hardly a few thousand dollars only, since nothing was remaining after their own expenses. TIME had warned to people not to donate to such NGOs.
      Actually social assistance is not unknown to Bhaarateey people. Rather our cuture tells us that that helping people is a form of worshiping God. As an eaxample I am attaching the deatails published in a recent newspapers about a Social work being done by one of Ashrams in Vrindavan. I am attaching the news to acquiaint you with the forms of our Social works activities. Nobody needs to cheat anyone else and donate that money to such Social organizations. The cheated money surely will not help our lofty cause, isn't it? Such money is considered as tainted one and hence is not useful for any good cause.
      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte 

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM, RAJESH KUMAR <rajesh_dm@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Please also check the salary/Honorarium  drawn by the founder of various NGO and their family. 
Yours

Rajesh K


From: shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:44:30
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>, csindelin@yahoo.com, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!

Kiran Bedi reported to be a member of Anna's Team. Anna has been reported to be a Mahatma Gandhian. Now this Kiran Bedi's case of making money for the benefit poor class people through a misappropriated means can be compared with a really Gandhian social worker in nineteen sixties.

 

It was normal to have a long queue at ticket office windows of railways everywhere in India under Nehruvian Congress rule though it was having absolute majority in centre as well as in states.

 

Jugatram Dave a veteran Mahatma Gandhian and his associate had to pick up a train from Ahmedabad to Bharuch. They were somewhat late due to delayed local bus for railway station. The queue for Class III was very long and it was common for many trains. It was quite possible to miss the train if had they stood in queue meant for third class. It was essential to catch the scheduled train.

 

The associate suggested Jugatram (better known as Jugatram kaka) to have tickets for First Class because there was no queue for the first class. Jugatram-kaka agreed to the suggestion. First Class tickets were purchased. But they travelled by third class.

 

I have not heard of any real Gandhian who took any benefit of any type of concession or quota.

 

Anna could be some what a Mahatma Gandhian. But the integrity of his team members is not beyond doubt. Not only this, but their perception of Gandhian principles is not clear.


shirish dave


--- On Fri, 21/10/11, Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com> wrote:

From: Israel Jayakaran <israel@jayakaran.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 21 October, 2011, 5:07 PM

Dear Ashok,
 
                I am astonished at your stand. What Kiran Bedi has done is absolutely wrong. She has no right  to avail a concession and collect the full amount from the sponsors. Won't the creator God view it as immoral?  People who teach high morals  to soceity should not indulge in mal practices like this. They will lose their image in the eyes of the public As an Army officer, you too should be straightwforward and not avail what is not due to you.
 
                                                            Israel Jayakaran, Colonel (Retd), Signals,  veteran, Chennai.
 
 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!

I am shocked at the statements made by some people in defence of Mrs Kiran Bedi.
All thiefs and Docoits can say we took the money from rich and distributed to poor. So money has been used for person gains it is acceptable.
Whether the amount is Rs 10000 or Rs10000Cr  it is same. It is the greed and the capcity to swindle. If she could get Few Lakh crores she will still say that she has given to her NGO so she is Mrs Clean.
Please look inwards.
Jesus said only that person should throw stone who has not committed sin oneself.
All these people are sinners.
All NGOs as I have heard return 40-60% of amount back to agencies donating/allocating the amount. By that way none of the NGOs are clean and certainely are parasites on the society.
All these Anna Team people are running NGO's only.
Please consider with an unbiased mind.
I request also all parties not to express themselves in such harsh and unparliamentry langauge when discussing on this forum.
It appears peaople are using this forum to give vent to their feeling against individuals and not against a cause.
 
Best wishes
Ashok
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
From: csindelin@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:18:47 +0000

The constant targeting of team Anna especially the timing makes it evident that some blody Govt. Spies are against them. However when the blody spies did not find any substantive offenses, they are now trying to dent the images by making fuss of petty issues.

Did Ms. Bedi used the money for personal gain? Is the money of exchequers? By charging business class and traveling in economy what laws has she violated?

Its her prerogative to use the money the way she wants. If she would have donated the money to this man (Sarbjit Roy) then also there would have problem considering the fact that team anna is building pressure on govt.

Its the blody govt. spies useless fuss meant to dent the images of team anna.

Its common in public as well as govt. Sector, people who are eligible to travel in higher class travel in lower class and get them reimbursed with higher class fare. They are the owner of the difference amount and its absolutely ethical to use the money the way they want.

I still failed to understand what wrong Ms. Bedi has done. I salute team Anna the way they are bearing and withstanding immense pressure.

Best Regards,
CS Arun DashSent on my BlackBerry® Smart Phone
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:28:50 +0530
Subject: [HumJanenge] IAC leaders own corruption exposed !!

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/raipur-hosts-put-foot-down-told-bedi-cant-pay-you-twice-for-same-flight/863124/

The cheek of this woman (Kiran Bedi) and her "double" standards. Who are these people to lecture us on corruption ? Who are all these Magsaysay awardees (bloody CIA spies) who presume to lecture us on RTI and aspire to become Chief Information Commissioners ?.



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