Friday, March 29, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan in Sanjay Dutt's Defence !

Oh Sarbajit, 


Not a Muslim son , son of a Muslim mother and Hindu father was the most advantageous position. Both the communities would have spared him! 

you are otherwise reasonably intelligent and articulate. Why do you cloud your judgement with such childish and impulsive thinking? 

Naveen 

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On २९-०३-२०१३, at ११:१५ अपराह्न, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Naveen

As Mr S Kumar has given the example of Mr. Ehsan Jafri an ex-MP of Congress Party whose family was attacked by a large (Hindu) mob of 100 people. In these situations for a man like Mr. Jafri to take on a mob with a rifle or revolver is only a symbolic gesture. Only an automatic weapon like an AK56 - preferably about 3 or 4 of them would have been a deterrent.

Sanjay Dutt was in the same position, the Muslim son of a Congress politician  in a city racked by communal tension  after Babri Masjid. His licensed weapons were not a sufficient deterrent against a lynch  mob but AK56's are, so he got them because a) he knew the sources who would sell it to him b) He could afford it.
I disregard his confession. It is obviously written by the police.

Sarbajit

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Naveen Tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarbajit , 

Don't confuse things unnecessarily. I am equally gifted with the kind of language you use and have access to the same reservoir of venom to spew around. I can enlighten you about where the Police of my state was when the Babri masjid was being demolished or when the sikhs were being killed. 
But to avoid deviation from the main issue at hand let me put it in as simple terms as possible. 

No matter how bad our government is and how incompetent the police, it does not mean you and shanti Bhushan will get the right to concoct a new definition of Law or pronounce your own Law. 

Till today there is no such Law in India which would justify or permit possession of unlicensed arms and ammunition  Under any circumstances. Whether a riot or any other threat, the first step is to obtain a license. 

Incidentally my close friend Rahul Dev was posted as Editor , Jansatta in Mumbai at the time of the riots and he was part of the citizens groups which went about defusing the tension and appealing for peace and amity. He faced the wrath of the Shiv Sena and was under constant threat. He does not have a gun nor ever applied for a license.  

My memory is quite fresh about most events from the time of J P's movement till date and you don't have to refresh it. 
Just keep your disoriented thoughts in proper perspective since you have decided to be a leader in absentia. if people of the country actually started following you and shantibhushan that will be the end of rule of law. 

Sincerely 

Naveen tewari 



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On २९-०३-२०१३, at ५:४७ अपराह्न, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Naveen

I think the memory of Dec 6 1992 is erased from your memory. In the presence of massive security forces and public servants in your home state a band of Hindu vandals from Maharashtra went on the rampage. It provoked a nation wide situation that the minority Muslim community felt highly unsafe and carried the "war" back to the capital of the vandals . Where was your State's police when the Babri Masjid was being demolished ? Where was the Maharashtra police when bombs were exploding everywhere in Mumbai ?

This is not a Hindu-Muslim problem,it is a problem wherever minorities are alienated and face genocide..

Hindus in Kashmir,
Muslims in Gujarat
Sikhs in New Delhi
Chakmas in Arunachhal
Bodos in Assam

I have personally been through 2 genocide like situations as an observer, and I can assure you that the state machinery is not only helpless during these acts of madness, it is a player.  In the 1984 riots hundreds of Sikh families  were saved only because they possessed personal arms, often as ex-faujis, and used them.

Today in the State of Gujarat, Hindus are freely granted arms licences whch are brandished at toll booths to evade paying toll, but only 3 arms licences have been granted to Muslims in last 5 years ?

The 1947 Partition was the mother of all such recent genocides. We are going to face another such conflagration if the nation continues on its present path

Sarbajit

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Naveen Tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear sabajit, 


Was there any attack on him or any member of his family? His father had the courage to take the long walk to Punjab appealing for peace at the height of Khalistan movement! This delinquent perceived a threat from unknown people and quarters which made him hobnob with the most dreaded criminals and anti national persons who had declared a war against the Indian state and now our ex Law Minister , in the August company of an ex supreme court Judge with an inimitable knack for shooting from the hip, is campaigning for his acquittal after conviction! generations to come will never cease to be baffled about this new legal Fiction of self defence. 

Naveen tewari 
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On २९-०३-२०१३, at १:५५ पूर्वाह्न, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Naveen

Shri Shanti Bhushan has laid down the LAW.
You can argue with Mr. Bhushan but you cannot argue with the LAW.

If the State fails to protect a person, he is in his rights to acquire ALL MEANS REQUIRED TO DEFEND HIS LIFE

Mr,. Bhushan ECHOES IAC when we stand for right to bear arms freely and defend ourselves.

Mr. Bhushan's legal basis is IDENTICAL with IAC's because IPC is a 150 year old law almost as old as IAC (or Mr. Bhushan)

Sarbajit





On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, naveen tewari <nct.lko@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Shanti Bhushan has certainly gone beyond senility and is showing signs of Dementia. His long article in the Hindu of 26th march is the latest example of that. Here he is with all his remnant legal acumen misplaced to the hilt, arguing for a summary reprieve for Sanjay Dutt. In this venture mr. Bhushan quoted the judgment of the supreme court wherein the court has mentioned that Sanjay Dutt's reason for possessing those prohibited guns and arsenal was self defence. Mr. Bhushan argues that it is not a crime to defend oneself even if the ammunition possessed by one is without licence. 

What a wonderful logic by this legal luminary who was once our Law Minister. I can only feel ashamed as an Indian that people of such calibre find there way to top positions in the country where they can play with the destiny of the people of this country. I am also deeply distressed that such people still manage to find a place in the public discourse no matter what level of atrophy their brain has reached. 

The Hindu, my most favourite newspaper, is also springing surprises like these every now and then.

I request you all to read this article by Shanti Bhushan and react to it.


regards

naveen tewari

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