Re: [IAC#RG] [HRA] Definition of "Hindu"

Agree that we follow the Constitution and not bend ot to suit our own needs

On Thursday, April 25, 2013, Vijoy Ambasta wrote:

Dear Friends

This ridiculous talk on who is Hindu is superfluous. Let us only define who is Indian. The constitution is supreme and nothing can supercede this even. Individual rights OK but they cannot be at cross purpose with the Constitution of India that is supreme

Vijoy K ambasta

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

The British Law is the only point we CAN start from. The only other "Hindu" Law Canon is Chanakya's.

The Laws of Chanakaya are completely impractical to be used nowadays. The British Laws,  however, are still working very well until Indians started tampering with them.

Members of HRArmy list cannot post to IAC's "indiaresists" mailing list, so I've added your ID there also.

A UCC is very good thing to have if everyone agrees to it.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Sumer Agarwal <sumeragarwal@gmail.com> wrote:

You seem to be relying only on what the British or East India Company did. Younseem to forget the expanse of India at the time of Asoka. It was onlybwhen he embraced Ahimsa that India started to to weaken. Although are many malpractices such as untoucability, etc which is the bane of Hinduism but that does not mean we cannot have ONE CODE/LAW AS IN USA and other democratic and Islamic and Asian, Euoropian states

On Thursday, April 25, 2013, Sarbajit Roy wrote:

Guys and gals generally have disconnects on marriage.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, we seem to have a fundamental disconnect on what marriage is.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

If Muslim Personal Law is better than Christian Personal Law then more Christian's will convert to Islam than the other way around. every religion is guaranteed the fundamental right to propagate itself and personal law is one of the components of that propagation process.

I disagree with the whole "personal law" business. People must be equal under law. The idea of separate laws for separate people and conversions to take advantage across them is something that further highlights differences and creates a sense of opportunist exploitation of religion on one hand, while it adds to inter religion rivalry. This, in my belief is not so good for the country.

Unfortunately there are too many ignorant people who demand UCC without knowing its history and toxicity.

There is no such thing as "India". It is a forced amalgamation brought about by the Mughals and then completed by the British. Like any amalgam it can be easily separated into its pure constituents - Muslims, Christians, Parsis, Brahmos and "everyone else" (@aka Hindus)

The British recognised the quicksilver nature of this amalgam early on, and the East India Company in 1850 (because the Brahmo Samaj was converting a huge number of Muslims and Hiudus to itself) enacted "The Caste Removal Disabilities Act 1850". This law is the first Indian law which can be called a Uniform Civil Code and it was drafted solely so that people converting to Brahmo Samaj were not excluded from their inheritance under personal law.

Here is the text, and this LAW IS STILL IN FORCE and part of each and every secular law of India.

"WHEREAS it is enacted by section 9, Regulation VII, 1832 (Ben. Reg. VII of 1832), of the Bengal Code, 3 that" whenever in any civil suit the parties to such suit may be of different persuasions, when one party shall be of the Hindu and the other of the Muhammadan persuasion, or where one or more of the parties to the suit shall not be either of the Muhammadan or Hindu persuasions the laws of those religions shall not be permitted to operate to deprive such party or parties of any property to which, but for the operation of such laws, they would have been entitled"; and whereas it will be beneficial to extend the principl

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