Sunday, November 2, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: false reporting on OROP

Is veteran(??) PJamasji, advocating austerity ONLY to FAUJIS( Warriors of Armed forces)and their families. The remedy for SLOTH is not  selective poverty. We warriors are ever willing to share poverty of the nation along with Babus/ politicians who have morphed to present day RULERS, forgetting they are firstly public servants and secondly they are supposed to ensure GoodGovernance  and not rule the country.
If veteran  Jamasji has no objection to right ful entitlements of warriors( serving and ESM) he should not state the opposite.
Veteran( LtCol) TTKISHORE.

On Monday, November 3, 2014, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:
if the govt equates faujis with babus & pays them accordingly, sooner than later faujis will, will emulate the babu sloth ! 

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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: false reporting on OROP

MsPujaMehra says it is not false reporting. 
Actually it is a blatant misreporting ,in that, OROP is an unlimited liability to the nation unlike limited liability of  other welfare measures to rest of the civilian sections of society. The fact is equal wages for similar job/ work AND pension is deferred wages andNOT GRATIS.
Why should warriors ( ESM& serving) community be a victim of sloth like efficiency of Babus/ politicians? The Babus/ politicians have ignored this unlimited liabilty to  fund their perks.
She does not seem to have an idea or choose to ignore the COVENANT the nation has regards WARRIORS like all other grateful and civilized communities universally. 
VeteranTTK


LtCol(retd.)T.T.Kishore, Engineers



On Nov 2, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Sandeep Dixit <sandeep4731@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir my colleague Puja Mehra says it is not false. Warm regards. Sandeep Dikshit.

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:33 PM, <puja.mehra> wrote:
Pl can u tell this it is not false. They r trolling me too on twitter. ‎So unbecoming of soldiers 

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From: Sandeep Dixit
Sent: Sunday, 2 November 2014 18:32
To: Puja Mehra
Subject: Fwd: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: false reporting on OROP

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Date: 2 Nov 2014 09:27
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: false reporting on OROP
To: "Parvez Jamasji" <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Cc: "NIRMAN YG" <NavNirman@yahoogroups.com>, "Yuva YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "* India Rise UP" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, "Maj & Equvivalents Faujis" <preavsmajorsltcdrssqnldrs@googlegroups.com>

A newspaper of the stature of The Hindu  has reported this  news in a most damaging manner.This need to be condemned. However the blame goes to Modi who has been made to keep his mouth shut on this issue by his bosses , the bureaucracy-the babus.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Parvez Jamasji <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
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Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 8:32 AM
Subject: false reporting on OROP

Dear Sirs,

It looks a though babus are feeding false reports to the media and the media is lapping it. The Chiefs should be appraised of this and they should issue a statement giving correct facts. How could the defence budget have gone up because of OROP when nothing has been given. The babus are drumming up support against OROP? 

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One rank, one pension scheme pushes up defence pension bill


The implementation of one rank, one pension has pushed up the Centre's defence pension payments by a record 40 per cent, posing fresh challenges to Union Finance Minister Arun Jaitley's resolve to keep the Centre's fiscal deficit within the budgetary target of 4.1 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product.
The armed forces pensions bill for the first six months of the current fiscal, from April to September, has turned out to be about Rs. 8,000 crore higher than for the corresponding period last year. Mr. Jaitley had provided only Rs. 1,000 crore for the whole year towards the scheme in the Budget he presented on July 10. The Finance Ministry is revising upwards its Budget estimate for the outgo on account of the scheme that benefits nearly 24 lakh pensioners of the armed forces.
The defence pensions bill for 2014-15 can be roughly expected to go up by about Rs. 16,000 crore over last year's, the source said. The Budget estimated defence pensions during 2014-15 to be Rs. 50,966.95 crore as against Rs. 44,475.95 crore the previous year.
The austerity measures do not cover pensions and the challenge for Mr. Jaitley will be to find fresh resources for the rapidly rising bill.
"Defence pensions payments normally do not go up so drastically. Though some increase was expected on account of the new scheme, the rise is turning out to be manifold," the source said.
One rank, one pension means soldiers of the same rank and the same length of service get the same pension, irrespective of their retirement date.
The decision to implement the scheme was first announced by former Finance Minister P. Chidambaram in the UPA government's interim Budget he had presented in February this year. Mr. Chidambaram had allocated Rs. 500 crore for it. "This decision will be implemented prospectively from the financial year 2014-15," he had said while presenting the vote on account ahead of the elections.
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