Sunday, April 28, 2019

Re: [IAC#RG] IAF (Air HQ) says : Alleged Balakot air strike never happened ?

Dear Veteran Sethi

What I am writing may be unpalatable to some of our members who exhibit Pavlovian behavior whenever anything is said about Mr. Modi on this forum

Actually, the live telecast only establishes that IAF carried out its (unwritten) operational orders from political leadership to cross LoC in violation of UN Charter and thereby infringe territorial integrity and sovereignity of another UN member state.

Had India also provided evidence of any Pakistan airframe being downed over Indian territory the case would have been different. However, what we got on TV instead was a badly organised impromptu farce where some pieces of an alleged US missile were shown as proof of Pakistan's attack against India using US munitions.

Unfortunately today, as a result of political ignorance and incompetence of India's leadershiup, Pakistan has won the propoganda war internationally for this episode..

Specifically, India can show no proof to the world that

1) Pakistan committed hostile acts against India after Imran Khan assumed office,

2) Non state actors (like J-e-M) are operating from Pakistan against India,

3) India exercised "hot pursuit" or "self defence" against J-e-M to invoke exceptions under Article 51 r/w 39-42 of the UN Charter or UN Conventions,

4) That IAF munitions struck their intended targets (in fact the IAF Chief was compelled to say, tongue firmly n cheek, that IAF's evidence is "blowing in the wind").

Finally, it seems that there are serious issues with Israeli miunitions, and their integrations / unapproved retrofits into weapon delivery platforms of non-Israeli origin. which led to loss of target acquistion and in 1 case to an IFF failure leading to alleged mistaken shooting down of our own aircraft.

It is thus no wonder that some senior veterrans have protested the misuse of armed forces for personal short-term political agenda of present government..

sincerely


Sarbajit Roy



















On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 5:57 PM Randhir <shebon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir, 

How do we reconcile to the live telecast of the return of our gallant Wg Cdr Abhinandan, 

by the adversary.

Regards

Sethi

Sent from my iPad

On 27-Apr-2019, at 6:43 PM, Sarbajit Roy (via indiaresists Mailing List) <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

Dear Robin
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On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robin Deans <robin_deans@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Roy,
                       rather than post a gist of your claimed reply to your RTI inquiry, It would have been appropriate had you posted a scanned copy of the reply so that the source could be established/authenticated.  I fully endorse Vijay's views 
Best wishes
Robin Deans



From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Vijay Shivdasani <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 3:13 AM
To: rnsgss@gmail.com
Cc: Sarbajit Roy; indiaresists
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] IAF (Air HQ) says : Alleged Balakot air strike never happened ?
 
Dear Mr Sarbajit Roy,
I do not think IAC should be involved in such a matter. I think the attack on Balakot has had its own favourable consequences (notwithstanding your RTI findings). I am not even sure this is an issue under your charter. Had I been Chief of the Airforce and there was any hanky-panky, I would not have put out the briefings which are on record. (I am NOT being naive!) I urge you to concentrate your energies on the many corruption cases which exist.
Sincerely,
Vijay Shivdasani

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:50 AM Ramesh Sharma <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
It is better to presume that no strike took place than to get into any unnecessary discussion/ argument about it. 

The armed forces need to be kept out of all the nonsense that goes on in political circles. 

Why politicise the armed forces?

Regards,

Ramesh Sharma


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:06 AM Sarbajit Roy <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Dear Shri S.P. Mathur, IPS (Retd)

You would be interested to know that as per official filings I have made to Ministry of Defence immediately after alleged Balakot air strike, the MoD and Air HQ presently claim (in interim updates) that they have no information about the Balakot air strike or its damage assessments or number of persons who were injuriously affected by it. (NB: This is very different from refusing me the information under national security exemptions which they could very well choose to do).

Because of the careful and precise way my duly registered and acknowledged (and long overdue for disposal) communications to Min of Defence were made, they are now unable to dispose of them and are apparently internally laying the blame at doorstep of politicians and Ministry of External Affairs for giving wrong briefings. There are notings of protest inside Air HQ and MoDef that Armed forces are being misused for political purposes.

As a consequence of IAC's communications on this issue, MEA Minister Sushma Swaraj was forced to publicly concede that nobody was killed as a result of the (alleged) Balakot air strike.

Accordingly, you can rest assured that IAC is doing its work silently, as a very potent force, within the corridors of power to ensure that the steel frames do not get corroded or converted to plastic by rogue politicians.

sincerely


Sarbajit Roy
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