Wednesday, November 28, 2012

RE: [IAC++] WRITE A NEW CONSTITUTION

I agree and support the movement and will be happy to mactively participate in building it.

Harminder Kaur


Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:20:33 +0530
From: atish2810@gmail.com
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
CC: coljpn@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [IAC++] WRITE A NEW CONSTITUTION

dear citizens,
 
Let us start somewhere instead of hindering action by arguements/counter arguements. one aspect agreed by all to reduce if not finish the corruption is to punish  efectively and QUICKLY and creating some examples for others is an effective JAN LOKPAL BILL.
Why not give it a try insted of getting into controversies of Congress-BJP accusations.
 
ak sharma
 

 
On 27 November 2012 06:07, KN VENUGOPAL <gandhigiri2007@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
hi,
 
corruption is the main topic of all that  is happening  in india today.
 
You will agree that there are many issues as big and affecting the people of this country.
like
 
nepotism
voilence in daily life
oppression of the helpless
discriminasation (application of law to the rich and poor, rape,plunder, etc)
plunder of the natural resources
justice (from administrarion, police, politician, law makers  courts)
this list goes on on
 
even though corruption affects most of us, the  other  issues are as important.  will it be like each century the people should take up one by one of these.
 
The fault does not lie in the decease at the branches but at the root of the document which enumerates the administration.
the CONSTITUTION.
 
all the champions of IAC ponder over this.
 
if we set the CONSTITUTION right we can also put one rich man,  one  the head of the IMF in prison, or pack of a President
 
In the deluge of e-mail this wisdom will be lost.
 
do not just ask the drunken dad to stop drinking, set the HOUSE IN ORDER
 
warm regards
GANDHIGIRI
 
 
 


--- On Mon, 26/11/12, jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind
To: "iac@lists.riseup.net" <iac@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Monday, 26 November, 2012, 9:21 PM

The only way to eradicate corruption from public life is to implement the rule of law in this country. implement the act of citizen charter, the lokpal bill n  RTI  in a effective manner. Though the main disease is the corruption in high places but it is multiplied by so many smaller diseases like poor education, unregulated poor welfare schemes, population n poor awareness of the people of its overall effect on the development of the nation. Our politicians n babus take full advantage of this weakness of ours.

 
From: Kris Dev <krisdev@gmail.com>
To: Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com>; Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Cc: "iac@lists.riseup.net" <iac@lists.riseup.net>; Ravi Raj Vasudev <raviraj.vasudev@yahoo.com>; ADR <anil.bahl@svtank.com>; mailtopratik@gmail.com; Ashutosh Singh <pratap.ashutosh@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

Dear all,

I too like what Sarbajit, Anil, Mahesh, Pratik and others have written.

We need to find a sure way to eliminate corruption and create a near level playing field for the 1.2 billion.

I think one sure way would be to demonetize currency in stages so that we remove Rs. 1000 and Rs. 500 currency notes from circulation to eliminate big corruption and fake currencies. The surrendered amounts can be updated in the respective bank accounts. Next phase Rs. 100 and Rs. 50 can be demonetized.

Instead of cash, Biometric Smart card linked to a money account as Debit Card can be issued for tracking all transactions.

What do others think of this idea?

Kris Dev.
ICT & e-Gov Consultant.
Manthan Award Winner for Biometric Tracking.


On 26 November 2012 08:56, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Sarbajit,

Great to read Mr Anil's description. The nation is grappling with the most complex problem perpetrated for the last 65 years by the pol class and babudom where solution is not easy to find and actually much more difficult to implement. The only thing simple to practice and common to all 1.2 bn we the people is to brace our selves to exert unlimited pressure upon all governments to implement things like Jan Lokpal, NeGP and many other generally accepted political and governance reforms. Economy would grow in any case despite the government but freedom from most of the corruption so as to breathe clean air would need the might of the nation. Let there be no doubt, every citizen irrespective of caste, creed and community is an integral part of this transformation and all of us are doing service and even those who are leading such movements are actually demonstrating their leadership by service. 

Once again echoing Mr Anil Behl's golden advice.

Jai Hind.
 
With warm regards,

Col Mahesh Khera



From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

Dear Anil

Great to hear from you after all these years (35 yrs ?) Never knew that you were into this IAC type stuff (we probably got it from studying Moral Science). People like us can engineer a solution.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Anil Bahl <anil.bahl@svtank.com> wrote:
Friends,
 
Intent is an important start. Talk is a follow up. But what is crucial is the WALK. Good people do what they say – they WALK THE TALK!
 
Most importantly, let us not be judgmental of anyone, especially when each one of us (including myself) does several wrong things every day (from telling white lies, to bribing a cop to bunking a red signal to losing our cool, to hatred for many)
 
Do not judge, for each one of us shall surely be judged when our time comes.
 
God bless and transform this Nation.
 
Anil



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