Friday, May 31, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Aruna Roy bidding goodbye to NAC

Though I also dislike use of 'unparliamentary language' it is unfortunate that sometimes it becomes a habit when you are continuously exposed to injustice. We have to admit that there are good men and women in our politics, bureaucracy and judiciary but is it my fault that I have come across none of such types and all those whom I have come across are the ones who need to be condemned in the strongest possible terms? Not that I approach all these worthies offensively that they all react negatively to me and me alone. Can anybody tell me why one should behave offensively to anybody involved in the process of issuing a birth/death/legal heir ship certificate? After all I want them to issue that document to me at the earliest after having complied with the procedure laid down. Would anybody in his/her senses do anything to offend the person who is required to deliver a service to him/her? So, the problem has to start with 'misbehaviour' from the deliverer of such service. And when such things become routine obviously things cannot be hunky dory as as one would expect.

Now Kerala has enacted a Right to Service Act some time in Nov 12. Even today neither the copy of the Act nor the rules are available at the website of the Govt of Kerala! When it was reported in the press that one additional chief secy was heading a committee to frame the rules I wrote to her and she was 'nice' to respond. But as per reports that have appeared in the media this Act is also hopeless. Now here is the e mail I sent to the CM:

from:     Ravindran P M raviforjustice@gmail.com
to:     chiefsecy@kerala.gov.in
cc:     chiefminister@kerala.gov.in, cm-grccell@kerala.gov.in
date:     Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:08 AM
subject:     Right to Service Act-framing rules-suggestions

This suggestion is based on a report in the Malayala Manorama of 28 Jul 2012 that Ms Nivedita P Haran, Additional Chief Secretary is heading a committee to draft the rules for the Right to Service Act.



From what I understand about this Act as reported in the media, there is a loaded condition for getting the services under this Act- that is 'if the application is complete in all respects....'. Now what makes this loaded against the citizen is that even now the major hurdle faced by citizens is the  number of times he is made to visit the service provider due to flimsy observations made each time- like the i not being dotted the first time, and the t not being crossed the second time and so on until the citizen applicant is forced to grease palms. And if the palm is greased none of these or even graver shortcomings are taken cognisance of.


Hence the following suggestion is made for consideration by the Committee.

Every application should be received and receipt acknowledged. The service provider should intimate all the deficiencies to the applicant in the receipt itself. The applicant should be allowed to resubmit the application after correcting all these deficiencies immediately or submit a fresh application later with all these deficiencies corrected, without any
additional fees.

Provided that the applicant will not be held responsible for any deficiencies in the original application that had not been indicated to the applicant and hence remain uncorrected.


Yours truly


Now as far as I understand, the rules have delegated the specification of time frames to various depts and they are taking their own time, though they had to do it within 6 months. And worse, one can forget those time frames because it is a series of appeals on appeals before the delinquent public servant will be punished and the citizen will get the service. And mind you every application and appeal has fees to be paid and plenty of time to be disposed of!

Now, I have issued notices, under Sec 80 of the CPC, to the Chief Secy to the Govt of Kerala and the Secy, DoPT on the issue to subversion of the RTI Act. And one of the demands in the notice is that govt services should be delivered in a time bound manner and the Govt has quoted the en action of the RTS Act as their effort to address this issue!

Now, will anybody please tell me if I am wrong in considering these public servants as thugs, scoundrels and traitors and referring to them as such?

Before concluding, coming to the issue raised by Ms Aruna Roy for not continuing in NAC- non revision of wages under the NREGS- I want to ask if this should have been the cause. Because, except in a state like Kerala the NREGS wages are reasonable. (There are many people from TN, AP, Orissa, Bihar, UP, Bengal working in Kerala  for whom Kerala is almost like America to the middle class Indian! While the average wage of a non skilled worker in Kerala is Rs 400 to 500, for a skilled worker it is 600 to 800/-! And back in their home states the wages are not more than Rs 100/- ! As far as NREGS is concerned the most important issue that should be addressed is the corruption in various forms- from fictitious muster rolls to fictitious works! In Kerla the joke is that during the monsoon the forest dept carries out tree plantation on road sides and during the summer the NREGS people cut it off under their cleaning (covered under 'road maintaining') programs!

regards n bw

ravi

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Sukla Sen <sukla.sen@gmail.com> wrote:
The use of utterly foul language deserves strongest condemnation.

Sukla


On 31 May 2013 17:16, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir,

I am sure that Mr. Modi (who is now also a well known RTI consultant) had sufficient and strong reason to use the language he did.

I would, however, request Mr Modi, on behalf of the entire RTI community and the people of India, to kindly atone for his "sin" by following up with the Speakers of the Rajya Sabha and the Lok Sabha to ensure the following under RTI

1) That the most recent book (running into 900+ pages) titled as "Unparliamentary Expressions" be put into public domain immediately - over internet, if it has not already done.

2) That all MPs be made to pass a compulsory written test on Parliamentary language before being admitted to the House(s)

http://www.parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/bulletin2/2k/31072k.html

"No. 1115

Unparliamentary Expressions

Members are informed that an updated  compilation entitled 'Unparliamentary Expressions' has been brought out by the Lok Sabha Secretariat.

The compilation contains references to words and expressions declared  unparliamentary in the Central Legislative Assembly, Constituent Assembly of India (Legislative), Provisional Parliament, First to Tenth Lok Sabhas (1952 to 1995), Rajya Sabha, State Legislatures in India and some of the Commonwealth Parliaments including the British House of Commons.

The compilation is priced at Rs.1160/-. However, a rebate of 25 percent will be allowed to Members of Parliament on purchase of only one copy each for his/her personal use.

The copies are available for sale at the Sale Counter, Reception Office, Lok Sabha Secretariat, Parliament House, New Delhi. "



On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Praveen Kumar <praveen.kumar@jindalsteel.com> wrote:

It is shame on us to be associated with the group , what is the character Mr. Modi himself has portrayed using the language . Shameful for all the people associated with the group ,how can they lead the change ?.

 

Regards

 

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of pavan nair
Sent: 31 May 2013 14:20
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Aruna Roy bidding goodbye to NAC

 

What about the bitch part?  Senior journalist or whatever, Modi should apologise. Pavan Nair

On 31 May 2013 14:08, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ketan

(offered in deference to your status as senior journalist)

"pimp" ??? perhaps you meant,

"bawd" (A woman in charge of a brothel)

"procuress" (A female who obtains a woman as a prostitute for another person.)

Sarbajit

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Ketan Modi <modiketan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Good riddance,
> The bitch had misused her official position to kill/dilute the provisions of RT...



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