Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: Most of Congress top leadership in Chattisgarh injured or dead in Maoist attack

Has the Congress Party been encouraging and abetting growth of terrorism among tribals since long?
 
Why is nobody discussing about the Purulia air-dropping a plane load of modern weapons- automatic rifles, ammunition..etc. by a Chartered flight piloted by a Dutch pilot? The flight originated from EU, refuelled in Karachi and crossed the entire width of the Country crossing many ATC zones "without detection "(or ordered not to interfere?), dropped the consignements from midair into open areas in thick forests of Purulia area of WB infested with Naxals and Maoists, and landed in Calcutta. While the flight reached Mumbai on its return flight, the two were caught and arrested and one escaped very soon and the pilot was taken to Delhi and escorted by a Congress MP in a red beaconed car to Nepal and allowed to escape?
 
To whom were these sophisticated arms were to reach? Maoists and Naxals arranged by Congress Govt. at Centre?
 
Now UPA is questioning how they are getting sophisticated weapons and ammunition?
 
Why is the opposition not questioning this anti-National traitorous act of Congress leaders all these years?
 
We are a laughing stock in the World as the pilot moves freely in Holland and challenges the GOI to extradite him and file charges, as he is fully aware of the complicity of Congress Govt. in this matter!!

From: devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: Most of Congress top leadership in Chattisgarh injured or dead in Maoist attack

Mr Diwan Singh Ji:

I have read your piece, in response to my rather stiff and direct email, on the need for the Centre and the State and the two national parties to deal with the issue of terror as demonstrated in Darbha Valley, last Saturday.

I am assuming nothing, except that we are a democracy -- whatever kind it may be, right, wrong or indifferent, whatever kind it may be. Far from perfect, for sure. Yet, still a democracy that has a Constitution.
(I was 12 when we came away from Punjab in 1947; we lost everything but accepted our fate and struggled for decades and only after retirement in 1994 was able to make a home in India.)

I have worked among the tribals in Bastar, Mandla, in Orissa among the leprosy afflicted in Hatibari, etc. and in urban development in different parts of our country. To serve and to struggle is one part of one's goals. Unity of a divided India must remain our goal. 
The corrupt and inefficient have taken hold, from to time; we as a people must deal with it and root it all out, but peacefully.

My only assumption is that the terrorist of sorts (the said leadership called Maoist or whatever) CANNOT take to the gun and the bomb -- making fodder of the tribal and the bureaucracy of sorts. 
India's present and future does NOT lie in that. Violence will beget violence-- no one will ever gain. May be the Chinese or the Pakistanis will.

There are over 80 districts of our country that are in the grip of the kind of terrorism that has grown to be a major problem. Maoism or Naxalism is not the answer. Stalling the Parliament from functioning is neither the way to development. Nor is the inefficient and corrupt governance that our country has seen in the last few decades will get us anywhere.

We together have to find a way and deal with the brewing "civil war" of sorts that is rampant in some parts of the land.
KPS Gill has made a suggestion or two. Our political leadership is caught in the cricketing field and rampant jugglery of sorts. And Home Ministry level is attracted by the US and not staying loyal to their role in serving the critical issues that are facing our country.

Violence, stealthily arming and killing on the run will never ever get the answer that the young and old deserve.

That is all I can say at this time for you to consider. Peaceful and constructive ways will get us what India and Indians need. NOT what has been demonstrated till date through violence.

Peace.        


On 27 May 2013 16:39, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Chopra,
In your mail, there seem an assumption that India is a democracy. I believe , If India is anything, its a bureaucracy, and that's the most unaccountable, systematic form of concealed autocracy and tyranny. If you look at the civil rights of layman, there has never been a worse period in India's history as it is now. The rot was started by British Raj and much bad now.

There is also an assumption now that the tribals are backward people and they need to be taught on how to live and earn. The way, we in the modern world are speedily consuming resources, can not be called civilized. Maybe, tribals are the only people who know how to live sustainably and hence, more civilized than us. The modern way of practicing agriculture and industry have polluted the living planet beyond repair. 
If we do not wish to learn something from the tribals, at least, practice some democracy and leave some choice to them  to decide what they want.  Tell me, when did the tribals , ever gave their consent to be followers of Indian constitution and consent to allow changes to their way of living. Never! So, in the name of democracy, we are merely spreading terror. And terror begets terror. 

If we really want to practice democracy, we must allow them a level playing field.
When, they do not seem to follow our way, we call them secessionists and use guns. As Arundhati Roy said, the greatest secession is of the urban middle class from the rest of India.They had been just living their life as for thousands of years. Its we who started troubling them , not the other way.

In my opinion, an Indian bureaucrat is the greatest terrorist, unleashed by the state. Some good people, who are in bureaucracy, may not deserve this tag, but are unable to arrest the decline.




On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:32 PM, devinder chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends:

India, those in power and those in the Opposition, owe it to the 1.23 billion people, to have the courage and a solid PLAN to deal and defeat cum suppress the "civil war" of sorts that is waging in a number of our districts in central India.
Use specially recruited regiments, even the drones from the US, and deal with those who have taken up the so-called revolutionary way and defeat the democratic authorities in the country.

Smuggled arms from outside (and from within) are all at the back of what is brewing in these 
districts and parts of the Indian state.

The massive problem has grown in the course of the last 25-30 years-- and I am not surprised. (I have served in Madhya Pradesh and in Bastar, etc. during 1967-71 and know what I am talking about....)

Both BJP and Congress owe it to us, the citizens, and to act in complete unison and locate a solution in the course of the next 5 years. Because I believe it can be done IF we have the single resolve and the will to :
a) use our armed might and bring the renegades to boot
b) prepare and implement an economic (industrial and agricultural) plan to help the tribals and others who resides in all such-like districts in our land.

We must show the will and the spine -- the solution will not be hard to locate.

IF we keep looking for who to blame, for what ever, we will continue to politicise and weaken    
ourselves -- as has happened in different ways in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, Burma and Sri Lanka.

To govern and to rule requires both the gut and the resolve; let us not fritter away our resolve and time because minimally it will prove what Winston Churchill used to say about us in the thirties...

Peace.
dev chopra in gurgaon





 


On 26 May 2013 19:28, Prem Sabhlok <psabhlok@hotmail.com> wrote:
Solution
Involve people in their Self rule (Swraj) i.e Prople's Participation in governance.
Say good bye to confused and rudderless Socialism and abolish Central Planning Commission
Abolish colonial model of IAS self serving and harassing bureaucracy and replace with th world's best model.
All economic benefits to people Below Poverty Line through Local Governments and not IAS bureaucracy in collabotartion with political bosses. Poilitcal leaders and spinless IAS bureaucrtas are destroying our freedom and bottom up democracy. They have made even Panchyati Raj as Collector's Raj.
Resist top down democracy cause of Dynastic Rule.
regards
Prem Sabhlok

 
Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 23:11:33 -0700
From: smdave1940@yahoo.com
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Subject: [IAC#RG] Fw: Most of Congress top leadership in Chattisgarh injured or dead in Maoist attack

Instead of getting prosecuted and hanged these some of the Nehruvian Congi-s are killed. Very bad. They are relieved without torture.

Indira Gandhi had tortured Jai Prakash Narain indirectly by not medically examining Jai Prakash Narain before putting him Jail after arrest. She had also avoided prosecution on Jai Prakash Narain and many others in several tens of thousands in 1975-1976 before and after putting them in Jail. She had not gone through the report of doctor of JP, where salt was banned in his food. Salty food was being provided to Jai Prakash Narain, which had caused the failure of his both the kidneys. I know Indiaresits is Pro-Nehruvian Congress, and it would never publish my comments. Similar is the case with gs@sainiksangh.org.
I would also bar them from sending emails to me.

shirish m. dave  

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Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2013 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Most of Congress top leadership in Chattisgarh injured or dead in Maoist attack

Question is what can drive simple village folk to take up arms in this manner! Sheer injustice and human exploitation
Chauhan

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On 25-May-2013, at 9:02 PM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:

VC shukla also injured.

Reports indicate that some 10-12 Congress leaders have been killed.

Vidyut


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
News still coming in. Maoists attacked Congress Parivartan yatra and reportedly had a free run for up to two hours.

Congress Chattisgarh state party chief Nand Kumar Patel and his son are kidnapped. Senior Congress leader Mahendra Karma, founder of Salwa Judum and Uday Mudaliar shot and killed, and Kawasi Lakma shot and injured by the Naxals during the attack.

Tehelka reporter on location suggests that most of the top leadership in the state is either injured or killed. Confirmed reports still coming in.

Vidyut





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