Saturday, January 16, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

6/1/16

DearSirs,
Who was really behind this scheme needs to be unraveled. My thinking is -Mr. Kejriwal himself. The tussle for police control is known and in implementing this scheme the police had to cooperate with the State Govt..In other words operate under his directions and control. He also knew the judiciary will support him in this move.This is just a thought,
2It will be very interesting if AK who has been challenging the PM for open debate will accept Mr. S. Roy's offer. Why not make this offer direct to him?
3Mr. Gupta has made many pertinent points and need to be elaborated to really assess their impact on the level of pollution in Delhi.
Being familiar with the problem some of my questions/observations are as under-
1. Why is judiciary is so much concerned with pollution in Delhi and not a word about pollution in other metropolitan cities?
2. Why no proper scientific study is made-determining the various factors causing pollution and their seasonal impact?
3. Why not gender neutral policy-why exemption for ladies, VIPs.Why discriminatory policy?
4. Is the judiciary or State Govt. aware of the pathetic condition of public transport-buses, Taxis, Ricksaws and inconvenience it is causing to the Common Man?
5. There is a limit to load on metro service, there is no feeder transport supporting the commuters-from metro station to and fro home.
6. It is true that Delhi has the highest number of Vehicles as a metropolitan city but how does it compare with others cities like Mumbai in terms of density of car population as well as cities like Tokyo,Newyork or others who are managing without such schemes?
If the intention is to discourage use of private wehicles, why not raise Registration ,Road taxcharges. Delhi has the lowest among metros It will also improve finances for traffic management.
7Delhi is at the border of Thar desert. So there is lot of dust pollution.One can feel suffocated by evening in the suburbs althrough the year.
8People-whether motorist, taxi drivers, Bus Drivers are very aggressive, impatient and unruly in behaviour.Traffic jams mostly occur when they block the opposite side of the road . Mostly the traffic police is absent and it becomes a free for all on such occasions.
9.What about old Delhi- where you can,t take a car and have to depend on some other means of transport and yet the pollution level is so high.
In my opinion,Mr. S. Roy should pursue this matter as he lives in Delhi, familiar with pollution problem in Delhi and understands political behind the scene move better.
Regds-JKGaur
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From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:52 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Dear Guptaji and Bhushanji

The ODD-EVEN scheme is now over today and all the real time data.is in.

From the data (taking it for granted that 50% of the private cars were
actually off the roads) it will be impossible for any honest scientist
to conclude that the massive pollution (especially the u2.5 pollution
is substantially caused by these cars.So who was really behind this
scheme I wonder?

I publicly challenge Mr. Arvind Kejriwal (or any other scientifically
/ technology qualified Minister in his cabinet) to debate this matter
with me in any forum of his choice, instead of fooling the public by
paid editorials with corrupt reporters and manipulated polls in
newspapers like Hindustan Times and ToI.

I shall rely upon data from Central Govt stations like SAFAR (Min.of
Earth Science), and CPCB which anybody can download in real time from
the net. Mr.Kejriwal can compare it with his govt's DPCC data (sample
copy enclosed).

I am attaching PDF samples of the latest reports down loaded in the
last 1 hour. Sufficeth it to say that PM2.5 pollution was between 2 to
4 times the prescribed levels on the last day of ODD-EVEN and well
over last years's levels.

Sarbajit

On 1/13/16, S C Gupta <scgupta48@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Traffic In Delhi
>
> Before we go for any action to reduce pollution due to vehicles ,it is very
> important to understand cause of pollution. A few pts to be analysed as
> below:
>
> 1. Number of vehicles & pollution percentage
> 2. Flow of vehicles & obstruction to its flow
> 3. Traffic jams due to uncontrollable vehicles, two wheelers, cyclists,
> pedestrians & breakdown of vehicles
> 4. Major cause at right turn which causes breakdown of flow of traffic.
> 5. Signal lights not working or uncontrolled crossings or nonskill of
> traffic staff or no fear of law & rules.
> 6. May many more e.g. Efficiency of engines or quality of fuels etc
> SUGGESTIONS-
> 1. Strict compliance of rules & regulations by fear of punishment like heavy
> monetary fine ( 10% of cost of categories of new vehicles or seizure for
> five days with the cost for caring the vehicle for 5 days & penalty for day
> wise thereafter)
> 2. No mercy or excuse in any condition in beginning of system
> 3. Don't become emotional
> 4. 50% of Fine collected should be given as incentive to traffic staffers
> balance for maintenance of operations. ( Take legal opinion)
> 5. There could be many more as per requirement of areas.
>
> Impact of Even & Odd Formula
> 1. Mental harassment to public
> 2. Business loss
> 3. Inability to form a rigid solution
>
> SC Gupta
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11-Jan-2016, at 2:43 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes if course,if the vehicles on the road decreases,,the pollution is
>> bound to decrease.But the question is if as Arvind Kejriwal is propagating
>> in his TV Ad f a four stroke engine car is substituted by atwo stroke
>> motorcycle the pollution will decrease or increase.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>

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