Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

Traffic In Delhi

Before we go for any action to reduce pollution due to vehicles ,it is very important to understand cause of pollution. A few pts to be analysed as below:

1. Number of vehicles & pollution percentage 
2. Flow of vehicles & obstruction to its flow
3. Traffic jams due to uncontrollable vehicles, two wheelers, cyclists, pedestrians & breakdown of vehicles 
4. Major cause at right turn which causes breakdown of flow of traffic.
5. Signal lights not working or uncontrolled crossings or nonskill of traffic staff or no fear of law & rules.
6. May many more e.g. Efficiency of engines or quality of fuels etc
SUGGESTIONS-
1. Strict compliance of rules & regulations by fear of punishment like heavy monetary fine ( 10% of cost of categories of new vehicles or seizure for five days with the cost for caring the vehicle for 5 days & penalty for day wise thereafter)
2. No mercy or excuse in any condition in beginning of system
3. Don't become emotional 
4. 50% of Fine collected should be given as incentive to traffic staffers balance for maintenance of operations.         ( Take legal opinion)
5. There could be many more as per requirement of areas.

Impact of Even & Odd Formula
1. Mental harassment to public
2. Business loss
3. Inability to form a rigid solution 

SC Gupta 

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On 11-Jan-2016, at 2:43 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes if course,if the vehicles on the road decreases,,the pollution is bound to decrease.But the question is if as Arvind Kejriwal is propagating in his TV Ad f a four stroke engine car is substituted by atwo stroke motorcycle  the pollution will decrease or increase.

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On 10-Jan-2016, at 10:42 pm, Tridib Roy Chowdhury <tridibroychowdhury@gmail.com> wrote:

The basic premise of this email chain belies logic.

1. Vehicles are an important contributor (not the only one) to pollution - YES/No?

2. More vehicles mean more pollution - must be YES, if the answer to (1) is YES.

3. Less Vehicles mean less pollution - must be YES, if answer to (2) is YES.

4. 0,5 X < X for all  X >0 . Not asking the question  YES/NO.

So having half the vehicles on the road will reduce pollution. I hope  this platform is not being used to debate this obvious fact.

Why are we not seeing the impact - I am not a weather scientist, but I would wait for a week or so before we see the change. Media reporting the data from the next day, is lack of application of mind at best  and political at worst.

Do we have comments on the implementation, and the exceptions.  Sure.  But, unless someone comes up with a more credible solution, let us give this a try.

Respectfully - 

Tridib  Roy Chowdhury. 




On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Respected Shanti Bhushan ji

The demographics of those who voted for AAP, and of those who still
believe in AAP enough to vote for them if election is held today is
fairly well known. Their populist steps are reinforcing their primary
votebank - even if alienating the second (which may mainly drift to
Congress eventually) section of their voters .

We are also not convinced that there is actually any disagreement
between BJP and AAP. We view them as 2 sides of the same coin sharing
the slogan of  "Modi for PM and AK for CM".

Even if President's Rule was "somehow" imposed again (which is
doubtful), it is not a permanent solution and it would only strengthen
AAP. and the actual questions are :-

1) What is the present alternative to AAP in Delhi ?
2) What credibility / numbers does your Swaraj Abhiyan have ?

There is no need to answer because the answer ("none") are well known.

So instead of any anti-AAP movement, it may well happen that some
"event" takes place which polarises AAP internally in a way AK
misreads.
.
Insofar as IAC's role in any further anti-corruption andolans is
concerned, of course we welcome everybody who shares our core views,
ie..

A) IAC is patriotic and anti-foreigner, so this currently means that
US sponsored anti-national entities like BJP, RSS, Gandhi-ites, are to
be opposed / rejected.

B) We are anti-World Bank imposed agendas, so LOKPAL is opposed

C) IAC stands for a united socialist secular republican agenda which
is documented in our manifesto and charter.

sincerely

Sarbajit

On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
> I entirely agree with Venkatraman.kejriwal Kejriwal has taken politics to a
> new low.He has fully embraced corruption.He is doing nothing to improve the
> lives of people in Delhi and only doing self propagation by using public
> money and buying the media.It is now important in public interest that he is
> removed from office as early as possible.The central govt has adequate
> grounds to remove him and impose Prsidents rule as he is repeatedly flouting
> the constitution.The constitution provides for imposition of Presidents rule
> if the central govt is satisfied that a govt is not acting as per the
> constitution.But the central govt is likely to take this step only if they
> feel that the people of Delhi want his removal.A campaigne needs to be
> organised to voice this demand.Can the volunteers of Anti corruption
> movement organise this?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 09-Jan-2016, at 6:58 pm, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> AAP has given the ultimate blow to the anti corruption movement in India.
>>

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