Re: [IAC#RG] Sorry state of media in India

Dear Diwan Singh Ji,

With due apologies, I differ with you. You may be right to claim that anti-social elements carried out arson and blamed one specific community. But I differ with you when you say that Jats do not know duniyadari and that they do not get good jobs. I have been living in Haryana for last more than six years and have not found any office where Jats are not holding high posts. I have good number of Jats as friends and most of them admit that the demand of reservation (at least in Haryana) is not genuine.

I have found a good number of people from all castes who do menial jobs but are not getting reservation benefits.

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Diwan Singh

The fact of the matter is that Jats (a well to do community who
constitute around 28%of votes in Haryana) were WRONGLY given OBC
status in 2014 by Congress which was swiftly set aside by SC. The BJP
then promised them the joomla of  "Constitutional amendment" to get
around the SC judgment, this resulted in Modi wave.

Like everything else of BJP, Modi turns out to be wearing Vijay
Mallya's discarded suits, boots and hats, and is the new king of
promising good times at public expense. No wonder Jats demanded their
pound of flesh. All these recent riots / looting / burning etc were
carried out by Jats and by nobody else.

PS: We all know very well WHO did not forcefully oppose Chauthala
parole from Tihar Jail,  so he could be released on parole on 1 Feb
2016 and could promptly start touring / criss-crossing Haryana
agitating his traditional vote banks who were upset by INLD's neglect
and back-tracking.

If this list has to discuss anything, it should be whether ALL
RESERVATIONS and QUOTAS and LAL-BATTIS SHOULD BE SCRAPPED, or not.

Sarbajit

On 3/5/16, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Dua sahab,
>
> You have doubted who the looters were. Thats correct. The looted goods are
> found from houses of police officials- one is PSO of Munish Grover, MLA of
> Rohtak. Goods are found in house of another inspector as it has come in
> press..  So, you can imagine, if police is involved in looting, what the
> agitators can do.
>
> Lets see how it started. While agitation was going peacefully for 4 days,
> on 5th night police, led by SP rank officer,  enters a hostel in Rohtak and
> selectively beats up jat students. The police enters four times over a
> night and do this.  The parents came- same treatment- I do not know how
> would people react when state itself do violence on innocents- but what
> happened after that is very much feasible.
> I have videos where the quota agitators have caught criminals that were
> looting trucks.
>
> Media is putting a lot of onus on jats inspite of most evidence of
> violence, arson, looting coming from those who had no stake in the
> agitation. Khattar may not be leading this state sponsored violence but he
> was keeping his eyes shut. Rashme Sehgal, a senior reporter,  has done a
> unbiased coverage. See the link below:
> http://www.rediff.com/news/report/what-exactly-happened-in-murthal-haryana/20160229.htm
>
> How the story unfolded 25 years back should be of interest to all. In 1991,
> yadavs were dominating the politics with Mulayam Singh and Lalu joining
> hands with VP Singh. The National Commission for backward classes (NCBC)
> with a strategy to oust jats from the OBC list, selectively  visited
>  Patiala and Bharatpur and stated that this community belongs to ruling
> class.  The lay jat working in fields of Haryana, West UP, Delhi were
> ignored. Yadavs managed to keep 27% quota to themselves. Since then its
> Yadavs who have enjoying this entire 27% of OBC quota, with some more
> classes who can barely compete with Yadavs. The recent SC petiton to strike
> down the quota to jats was by a Yadav.  It was not a stay  to say that jats
> do not deserve to be in OBC, but on basis of a procedural flaw by previous
> Congress Govt.
>
> Since these 25 years Jats have been struggling peacefully to get the quota
> for them. Once 2 lakh people assembled at Ram Lila Maidan- but all efforts
> ignored.
> Jats are a working class community and not really smart in *duniyadari*.
> Just see how many you may find in offices at post beyond *chaprasis*
> Yet,the clamor for quota was not so much. The main reason behind this
> agitation has less to do with quota, but with BJP's game plan to play one
> caste against other. BJP preferred to fight state election on basis of jats
> vs non-jats. Thats a progress, a step ahead  from Hindu- Muslim divisive
> politics the BJP is accustomed to. Then, Mr Modi let loose a Mr. Raj Kumar
> Saini, MP to give inflammatory speeches against jats for through out the
> year. It barely ever happened in India that caste based speeches are given
> like this. But, BJP has started this too, and have created new divisons in
> society.
>
> Jats are also wondering why the BJP govt wants to reserve entire  OBC quota
>  for Yadavs. After all, this community is  voting enbloc SP in UP, and RJD
> in Bihar. Well, its for BJP to play the game. Jats are now shifting to ally
> with Muslims and Dalits, its almost declared. Though jats were never
> supporters of RSS, they would now hound out the RSS from villages.
>
> In nutshell, its BJP all the way doing the damage. I had never believed
> earlier about BJP's dirty politics, but can sense it entirely now. And, it
> is Mr Modi who leads the pack. Its part of his strategies to play castes
> one against the other that he adopted in Gujrat, Maharastra, and now
> Haryana.
>
> Diwan Singh
>
> Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
> Yamuna Satyagraha
> Ridge Bachao Andolan
> Campaign for Preservation of Commons
> naturalheritagefirst.in
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Though one agrees that the Nehruvian Utopia feeling is good, but surely
>> it
>> belongs to the '70s or latest the '80s.
>> The Press was pti or dd/ driven during that time.
>> Lack of awareness and living in our family groups made us feel good, no
>> doubt.
>>
>> Okay so we believe Shri Diwan ji as we hold him in high respect.
>>
>> The question now in all our minds is why did the so called quota'
>> agitationists', for want of a better word..Why they did not STOP the
>> looters.
>> That is if looters were not the same as the agitationists.
>>
>> Now for jnu.Anybody who has studied in jnu knows it is a Red driven univ.
>> Nothing wrong with that but having listened LIVE to one Kanahiya ji
>> yesterday i have my doubts to the level of studies conducted in jnu.
>>
>> With Respect to All.
>> On 3 Mar 2016 21:57, "Rakesh Manchanda" <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Irreversible damage in absence of forensics report of videos as feared
>>> by
>>> Diwan Singh ji is the bottom line.
>>>
>>> After Patel Reservation demand this Jat Reservation death toll is of 30
>>> lives with more then 30,000 crore of property is turned into ash.
>>> Goondas
>>> belonging to no community enjoy the free loot.
>>>
>>> When we follow the herd unwillingly we take a weak position of comfort
>>> with silence.
>>>
>>> This is happening again and again as a scripted soap serial and need to
>>> be stopped.
>>>
>>> People are driven hard by a herd mentality charged up by false videos
>>> announcing `Pakistan Zindabad`.
>>>
>>>
>>> For `stand alone` there is no choice either to remain silent supporters
>>> for self survival or stand with them in the mob of goondas or prmote the
>>> kill in the social media as no one wants to be with Pakistan even in
>>> dreams.
>>>
>>>
>>> We need to collectively protect this old culture of peace and trust with
>>> new outlook otherwise the politicians shall re-use this serial to divert
>>> public attention and grab more profit for their masters.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Rakesh Manchanda.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tribune planted a false story on gangrape, and for 5 days media ran
>>>> back
>>>> to back coverage on gangrape by jats during agitation.
>>>> Just wonder- no victim, no evidence, no FIR- but media is going
>>>> gangbang
>>>> after a single community.
>>>> Though there is no principle of collective punishment in our
>>>> constitution- the people of this community were continually shamed for
>>>> what
>>>> they never did.
>>>>
>>>> Just like the government divide the society by playing one community
>>>> against another, media too do it skillfully by mass character
>>>> assassination.
>>>>
>>>> Diwan Singh
>>>>
>>>> Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
>>>> Yamuna Satyagraha
>>>> Ridge Bachao Andolan
>>>> Campaign for Preservation of Commons
>>>> naturalheritagefirst.in
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Dinesh Verma <dcverma06@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  channels pickup a issue for discussion immediately,without fact
>>>>> finding,to grab & raise the TRP.The expressions & words of the anchor
>>>>> reflects the view of the
>>>>> T V channel.Viewers sometimes feel aghast after viewing,the other day,
>>>>> another channel on the issue.The TRP raising competition be
>>>>> discouraged.
>>>>> D.C.Verma
>>>>> Former Judge &
>>>>> Vice-Chairman (Retd)
>>>>> Central Administrative Tribunal
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Hariharan Pillai
>>>>> <hariateco@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi to all,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mr. Purobi Goshi is right, please treat it is a serious matter to
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > country.It is ashamed to watch the T.V chaneels, News papers now a
>>>>> days,
>>>>> > really wasting time and money for such. There should be some
>>>>> regulatory body
>>>>> > to monirtor.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hari
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Purobi Ghosh Mohan
>>>>> > <cgsi09@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear friends,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I read and watch with unease the state of media in our country
>>>>> >> today.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Most of those from the fraternity opine, don't report, with scant
>>>>> research
>>>>> >> to back them up. They are driven by a herd mentality.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Senior journalists write/speak on issues at random and keep silent
>>>>> on many
>>>>> >> other critical stories which they should be writing/speaking on.
>>>>> Some are
>>>>> >> heavily dictated by their publication/channel leanings or their
>>>>> private
>>>>> >> interests.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The media creates hype at will, distorts stories and gives a handle
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> those with vested interests. The partisan news and views influence
>>>>> >> politicians, judiciary and legislating bodies.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I understand that the News Broadcasting Standards Authority (NBSA)
>>>>> is a
>>>>> >> private body and not a legal entity. The Press Club of India (PCI)
>>>>> is a
>>>>> >> legal body and but yet to widen scope. The new Press Registration
>>>>> and Books
>>>>> >> (PRB) Act, also, is yet to be passed. It still runs on the 1867
>>>>> >> Act.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Such a situation poses immense threat to the nation and to the
>>>>> populace.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It is necessary to raise our voices against this situation and
>>>>> >> bring
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> authenticity of news to an even keel. Something needs to be done.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Purobi Ghosh Mohan
>>>>> >>
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