RE: [IAC#RG] Fwd: OROP

Dear Shri Sarabjit, 

As an Ex.SS commissioned Army officer who has gone through one war and also now retired as a senior executive of an Oil PSU, I felt disgusted at the undignified and unofficerlike agitation carried out by some of the defence verans in Delhi.If OLQ is that differentiates an officer from others, those leaders who were shouting slogans, did not show any  such quality.Even after govt. agreed to all the major points,their greed in contnuing with the agitation is unpardonable..Buoyed by the support from a dotting press and the politician's unwillingness to say anything against the 'patriots',they went over board and made them nothing different from political agitators.It is known to every body that it is only those in non-officer category who retire before the age of 40.They get a tippance of a pension.Instead of asking for jobs in governmental institutions and PSUs for these released soldiers,the agitating leaders were harping on OROP alone.Even now a reired superceded Lt.Col gets a pension of more than Rs.40,000 and a brigadier about Rs 50,000.Ours is a volunteer army and no one has forced them to join the defence services.

They forget that there are others also who contributed to the growth, stability and welfare of this nation.For example Oil PSUs.The work condition in 60s and 70s in oil sector  were worse than that of a peace time soldier and we did not have a war for the last43 years except the battalion strength skirmish in Kargil.Their employees competed with international oil giants in adverse circumstances to bring up national oil copanies like IOC.What did they get in return,a CPF half of which was contributed by they themselves with no pension.The CPF of Rs.10 or 20 Lkahs they got in 80s and 90s are peanuts now.Many of those retired are almost destitutes now.The comnpanies have forgotten them and the nation also.Every one knows that the present government is a nationalist government with every sympathy for soldiers and veterans.But as an elected government they can not abdicate their responsibilty  to the poor of this nation.Government has to balance their economics.To make the government crawl,after they have agreed to accept OROP and most of their demans, with such agitation is the height of irresponsibilty.Pot bellied retired generals jumping and shouting slogans gave a despicable sight espicially when we we are inundated with news of farmer;s suicides every day.

Navnith Krishnan 

 

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:13:02 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: OROP

Dear Brig Saha
 
It seems our veterans lose their ability to detect friend from foe
once they retire if you lot routinely dish out terms like "traitor" to
describe your channel hosts.
 
FYI, I am not a babu. Neither do I get any pension / salary from the Govt.
 
What "I" am is the poor fool who pays for all the worthless and
whining rascals hiding behind terms like patriotism and nationalism
for their greedy / selfish ends. I am the person who pays for  ketchup
colonels and their fake encounters. I am the person who pays for
Adarsh Housing scams. ...
 
You people were paid enough for any work you allegedly did while in
service. If you couldn't save while you were in service I fail to see
why we citizens should pay for your existence and your booze once you
retire. (NB: By "you" I mean each and every person who gets a pension
- starting from our worthless MPs)
 
I am sure that many ordinary citizens would say much the same thing
once we leave the hypocrisy behind.
 
Best regards
.
Sarbajit
 
On 9/27/15, kashi saha <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> Sarabjt,
> Why you donot you spk of the harm done by the your patriotic IAS super babus
> by blackmailing the Politicians. When  a person joins a service with certain
> terms and conditions through Gazette notification how can it be changed to
> down grade the same in pay and pension. All veterans and those who defended
> the nation till 1971, are all pre 1973 order issued removing the OROP and
> pension quantum( 70% of last pay drawn). Those are people fighting in
> peaceful manner trying to bring sense into these people in power.
> You are asking us to fight with you( It seems from your comment you are one
> of those glorified Babu  ) to bring down your self enhanced privileges, why
> is our job you deserve it or not you convince the Govt. what we are
> interested is a parity you increase yours increase ours too. You do not do
> any thing extra to contribute to the nation. You do your bit and we do our
> bit. If you fail we take on the job even if it is messed up so that the
> nation do not suffer. and if we fail in our job you can only suck your
> thumb. What you IAS/IFS and Political Nexus have done so far:
> 1. In 1971,You messed up the with your foreign policy with Bangladesh after
> the liberation. And it is a thorn on our back, a small helmet for terrorist
> and entry point of CFCurrency and terrorist . A proactive policy could have
> avoided all this
> 2. After 1971 You messed up with your policy against Pak even after we had
> handed over a trophy of more than 90K Pak POW., you could have bargained all
> our POW and POK.
> 3. In 1947 You messed up the Kashmir by asking us to Ceasefire when we were
> in the verge of taking over now so called POK
> 4. Twice we took over Strategic passes in Kashmir you forced us to hand them
> over now the Chinese with their armed forces have a strategic road to PAK.
> 5. Srilanka you created a problem and now we are loosing it to China.
> 6. Myanmar oil pipeline to China again failed in your foreign policy.
> 7. Internally Naxal, NE interstate relationship, sharing of water allocation
> of development fund and projects , you failed every where.
> Why IAS?? to protected constitution at national interest irrespective of
> party in power, advise the politicians who are masses rep against
> unconstitutional, antinational actions. Look into your self are doing that.
> How can any one justify subsidized food for the MPs, pensions with OROP
> principle for the MP with even one election win, There are few Khemkas and
> Chatuvedis but majority of you are self serving un patriot, with yes sir
> attitude for kushy transfer Children studying abroad and after 60 years Apex
> scale pension and member of a commission.
> You are the traitors and need to be sorted out not the politicians.
> Jai Hind         Brigadier Kashi Nath Saha  Mob: 9810728364 Email:
> knsaha44@yahoo.com

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