Friday, August 23, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] PIL dismissed. subsidised alcohol to Defence remains.

24/8/13
 
Dear Sir,
I agree that discussion should continue.
The information availbale about Mr. Vaghela is that he was working with one of the PSUS.Surely he would be knowing what kind of freebies the Ministers and their cronies enjoy at the expense of PSUS.That is a fit case for him to fight.
I am not an Army man, but I can imagine what kind of hardships they face in hostile terrains and weather. Next somebody may suggest why food and free passes for travel are allowed to Armymen.
Please remember 'Armydoes not march on an empty Stomach.' India is the only exception.
Besides, Defence budget every year is passed by Parliament and is charge on the Consolidated fund of India. mr. Vaghela is not an MP but if he has MP friends, let them discuss these matters in Parliament and see what happens.
In my opinion the PIL was ill conceived. As S. Roy had observed about RTI being clogged with applications from beaurocrates, Judicial system is being clogged with  motivated andsuperflous PILs.
Regds
JKGaur
JKGaur
 

From: manavasi.seshadri@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:30:10 +0530
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] PIL dismissed. subsidised alcohol to Defence remains.

What is the contribution of Babubhai to our country. . Is he an MP ? Or has he been an MP? I have not heard of this gentleman who is so worried about the few concessions given to armed forces, for centuries!!

I was in the IMA for 2 years ( 1947-48) when we were given 6 cans of beer and a few cigarettes  ( wild woodbine ) every week. The Army authorities those days were under the impression that " cigarette smoking was soothing to nerves". Later this was discontinued!!

I would very much like to learn from him he has come to the conclusion that the PIL was" justified"

Kindly do not close this subject  /. Let discussions go on.!!   Thanks .

 

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of ss sohi
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:20 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] PIL dismissed. subsidised alcohol to Defence remains.

 

Waghela Jee,

we have earned some concessions after facing Wars bullets with patriotism. What is your contributions ???

Rgds.

Col Sohi. 9815107744.

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@gmail.com> wrote:

I am sure GOI will look into to stop such Largess as the concern has
been brought into public domain though the justified PIL is Dismissed.

On 8/21/13, krishna kumar pande <pandekk@gmail.com> wrote:
> should also work out on the various freebes that the parties are giving at
> the cost of the tax payers money and then the currency takes a nose dive
>
> KKP
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM, M.N.Seshadri
> <manavasi.seshadri@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  May I appeal to your esteemed  organization to request Mr. AmitabThakur
>> to file a PIL requesting the Supreme court to examine in detail the
>> present
>> perks, salary , and also the highly subsidized canteen items in our
>> Parliament.   The entire world will back him up . This is happening in
>> every democracy where they pass bills that suits the MPS almost with 100%
>> voting in favour without a single member dissenting. . All differences
>> between parties disappear dramatically when it comes to looking after
>> themselves . What is  the need for giving pension to the MPs. They
>> volunteered to become MPs. No  body forced them to work  for life !!!
>> ***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:
>> indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:11 PM
>> *To:* indiaresists
>> *Subject:* [IAC#RG] Misconceived PIL dismissed. subsidised alcohol to
>> Defence remains.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> For our fauji members****
>>
>> Please find below order of Allahabad High Court dt. today dismissing a
>> Writ Petiton filed by Chairman / President of National RTI Forum Mr.
>> Amitabh Thakur IPS. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> HIGH COURT OF JUDICATURE AT ALLAHABAD, LUCKNOW BENCH
>>
>> ?Chief Justice's Court
>>
>> Case :- MISC. BENCH No. - 7295 of 2013
>>
>> Petitioner :- Amitabh Thakur & Another [P.I.L.]
>> Respondent :- Union Of India Thr.Secy.Ministry Of Defence New Delhi &
>> Anr.
>> Counsel for Petitioner :- Amitabh Thakur (Inperson),Dr.Nutan Thakur
>> (Inperson
>> Counsel for Respondent :- A.S.G.
>>
>> Hon'ble Shiva Kirti Singh,Chief Justice
>> Hon'ble Devendra Kumar Upadhyaya,J. ****
>>
>>
>> Heard learned counsel for the petitioners and learned counsel for Union
>> of
>> India.
>> This writ petition has been filed as a PIL to seek directions from this
>> Court to the respondents to get a detailed study conducted regarding
>> privileges given to some services, mainly defence service and
>> para-military
>> service of supply of liquour on subsidized rates. ****
>>
>> Learned counsel for Union of India has raised an objection that the
>> petitioners are not experts in the field and they have not done any study
>> of the matter to come forward with any alternative suggestions backed by
>> results of scientific study. According to learned counsel for Union of
>> India, this Court cannot and should not entertain such public interest
>> litigations which are aimed at initiating a study for a fishing and
>> roving
>> enquiry without coming forward with concrete materials to help the Court
>> in
>> achieving public interest by preventing harm to vulnerable sections of
>> the
>> society or by ensuring that their rights are honoured by the State. ****
>>
>> In the facts of the case, we find substance in the submission of learned
>> counsel for Union of India that the privileges, which are subject matter
>> of
>> this petition, are service privileges for some of the defence services or
>> para-military services and they should not be subject matter of PIL. The
>> writ petition is, therefore, dismissed. ****
>>
>> Order Date :- 20.8.2013
>> AHA ****
>>
>> _****
>>
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