30/5/14
Dear Sir,
Yesterday while suggesting closure of AK, discussion, I was wondering what kind of disucssion is going on This forum. As the name suggests,it should be devoted to serious discussion on subjects where we really want to resist any policy initiave/programme of the Govt. affecting welfare of the people. It is good that you have taken the initiave to clean frivolous/unconnected discusions and it is welcome and overdue.
Regarding Arundhati Roy,s post it is too early to prejudge what the Govt. under Modi will do regarding forest wealth,the inhabitants and use of other natural resources on indiscriminate or sustainable basis.
Arundhati Roys could also mean to suggest that the Govt. will tackle Naxalite problem harshly and if in the process,there is bloodshed, the Govt. will not back out. In other words indirectly she is backing the naxals and trying to put the Govt. ob bsck foot. Rights of forest dwellers to land andlivelihood have got mised up with Armed Rbellion with extra-territoral links which may imperil the national security sooner than later. Ms Roy is not justified to raise this issue at this stage.
He views on J&K and other controversial issues are known- what is not known are her links.
Regds
JKGaur
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 01:49:50 +0530
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Arundhati Roy: Big money' is backing Modi to end resistance
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Dear Sir,
Yesterday while suggesting closure of AK, discussion, I was wondering what kind of disucssion is going on This forum. As the name suggests,it should be devoted to serious discussion on subjects where we really want to resist any policy initiave/programme of the Govt. affecting welfare of the people. It is good that you have taken the initiave to clean frivolous/unconnected discusions and it is welcome and overdue.
Regarding Arundhati Roy,s post it is too early to prejudge what the Govt. under Modi will do regarding forest wealth,the inhabitants and use of other natural resources on indiscriminate or sustainable basis.
Arundhati Roys could also mean to suggest that the Govt. will tackle Naxalite problem harshly and if in the process,there is bloodshed, the Govt. will not back out. In other words indirectly she is backing the naxals and trying to put the Govt. ob bsck foot. Rights of forest dwellers to land andlivelihood have got mised up with Armed Rbellion with extra-territoral links which may imperil the national security sooner than later. Ms Roy is not justified to raise this issue at this stage.
He views on J&K and other controversial issues are known- what is not known are her links.
Regds
JKGaur
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 01:49:50 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: [IAC#RG] E-Newspaper dt. 30.05.2014 (e01v01)
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by Sarbajit » Thu May 29, 2014 4:35 am
'Big money' is backing Modi to end resistance, says Arundhati Roy
"Now, we have a democratically elected totalitarian government. Technically and legally, there is no party with enough seats to constitute an opposition", says Indian-author and activist Arundhati Roy in an interview to Pakistan's Dawn newspaper.
"Now, we have a democratically elected totalitarian government. Technically and legally, there is no party with enough seats to constitute an opposition", says Indian-author and activist Arundhati Roy in an interview to Pakistan's Dawn newspaper.
"What he [Modi] will be called upon to do is not to attack Muslims, it will be to sort out what is going on in the forests, to sweep out the resistance and hand over land to the mining and infrastructure corporations. He has been chosen as the man who does not blink in the face of bloodshed, not just Muslim bloodshed but any bloodshed."
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Re: Arundhati Roy: Big money' is backing Modi to end resista
by Bharat-Rakshak » Thu May 29, 2014 8:36 amThis loony woman is still hung up on her anti-"Big Dams" and theft of forest lands agenda.
Have BJP CM's like Raman Singh and Chauhan been any less ruthless for big money than NAMO when it comes to displacing tribals, so why are these secularists only targeting Nareendrabhai ?
Have BJP CM's like Raman Singh and Chauhan been any less ruthless for big money than NAMO when it comes to displacing tribals, so why are these secularists only targeting Nareendrabhai ?
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Re: Arundhati Roy: Big money' is backing Modi to end resista
by Sarbajit » Thu May 29, 2014 5:39 pmDear Sant ji
It is indeed ironic that both you and also Ms. Arundhati Roy are speaking the same language when it comes to demanding accountability and evidence from each other.
For instance on 15.May.2014 Ms. Roy demanded that the police show their evidence / proof against one Prof G.Saibaba, alleged LWE, before arresting him.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 127199.cms
Ms. Roy went on to say
Sarbajit
On 5/29/14, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All comments MUST conform to the litmus test of evidence-based assertions.
> Its the principal requirement of the forum.Of any intelligent discourse.Of
> any purposeful discussion.
>
> Does the originating statement have back-up evidence?
> Why waste time on it then?
>
> Under RTI seek policy framework.Check-up, and critically examine,whether
> its the very best in the public interest,in short/long term.
>
> SWOT analysis is of use.
> PDCA cycle for past performances is of use.
> DATT( Direct Attention Thinking Tools)--Edward de Bono's ten principles for
> creative decision making constitute the best suite for evaluating the
> supremacy of any decision(including policy formulation)making by any
> one,including the Cabinet,the Parliament,any authority.
>
> All the members pl keep this check list in mind before making any
> comment,lest it go astray,or wayward.
>
> We want NOT JUST the control of corruption,but the supremacy of decision
> making in larger public interest.Why settle for passive/mundane neutrality
> of a non-negative platform. Seek from any and every authority the best
> possible deliverable,under the circumstances. Seek the very best globally,
> and better it. Our ingenuity must be in regaining our lost primacy in the
> comity of nations.
>
> Before any wrong step could even be visuialised, take proactive action to
> checkmate it. RTI could help do it. PIL could support sometime. Voicing
> concern through Change.org,or similar fora, could be helpful. For all we
> know the conscience of media may get awakened,even on non-glamorous issues.
>
> Just having an issue circulated within our group may not take us forward
> enough.
>
> s p mathur IPS DGP(retd) BE MBA PhD
It is indeed ironic that both you and also Ms. Arundhati Roy are speaking the same language when it comes to demanding accountability and evidence from each other.
For instance on 15.May.2014 Ms. Roy demanded that the police show their evidence / proof against one Prof G.Saibaba, alleged LWE, before arresting him.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 127199.cms
Ms. Roy went on to say
Making a case for stronger institutions of democracy and more transparency if activism had to be effective, Roy said corruption was a symptom arising out of power pulls and unethical practices of those in power. "Development needs to be balanced to suit everybody. These elections are about which corporate will come to power. Even the business community is upset with the manner in which only a handful of Indian conglomerates are amassing wealth," she added.
Sarbajit
On 5/29/14, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All comments MUST conform to the litmus test of evidence-based assertions.
> Its the principal requirement of the forum.Of any intelligent discourse.Of
> any purposeful discussion.
>
> Does the originating statement have back-up evidence?
> Why waste time on it then?
>
> Under RTI seek policy framework.Check-up, and critically examine,whether
> its the very best in the public interest,in short/long term.
>
> SWOT analysis is of use.
> PDCA cycle for past performances is of use.
> DATT( Direct Attention Thinking Tools)--Edward de Bono's ten principles for
> creative decision making constitute the best suite for evaluating the
> supremacy of any decision(including policy formulation)making by any
> one,including the Cabinet,the Parliament,any authority.
>
> All the members pl keep this check list in mind before making any
> comment,lest it go astray,or wayward.
>
> We want NOT JUST the control of corruption,but the supremacy of decision
> making in larger public interest.Why settle for passive/mundane neutrality
> of a non-negative platform. Seek from any and every authority the best
> possible deliverable,under the circumstances. Seek the very best globally,
> and better it. Our ingenuity must be in regaining our lost primacy in the
> comity of nations.
>
> Before any wrong step could even be visuialised, take proactive action to
> checkmate it. RTI could help do it. PIL could support sometime. Voicing
> concern through Change.org,or similar fora, could be helpful. For all we
> know the conscience of media may get awakened,even on non-glamorous issues.
>
> Just having an issue circulated within our group may not take us forward
> enough.
>
> s p mathur IPS DGP(retd) BE MBA PhD
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Re: Arundhati Roy: Big money' is backing Modi to end resista
by Bharat-Rakshak » Thu May 29, 2014 6:18 pmNo further comments on Arundhati Roy
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Sarbajit wrote:Dear Sant ji
It is indeed ironic that both you and also Ms. Arundhati Roy are speaking the same language when it comes to demanding accountability and evidence from each other.
For instance on 15.May.2014 Ms. Roy demanded that the police show their evidence / proof against one Prof G.Saibaba, alleged LWE, before arresting him.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 127199.cms
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