Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

Dear Shashi Kumar ji,   I request to send an appropriate letter to the CIC cititing all legal provisions in that with a copy of the same to me/ to this  blog so that I may also send the same.   I am going to challenge a decision of the CIC (Mrs. Annapurna Dixit, IC) given in 2008/09 and if the record is destroyed, How the CIC will be able to submit copies of my appeal and submissions before the High Court?  Mere copy of the decision will not suffice though I have original records of the documents originated from my side and received from the Public Authority but CIC may plead that it cannot bouch them in the absence of its own record.    The limitation period for the Court is 3 years and thus I can challenge the decision by 2011/12.   Regards. --- On Sun, 6/2/11, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote: From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 6 February, 2011, 11:21 PM RTI ACT IS ALSO APPLICAPABLE TO CIC , CIC IS FORGOTTEN THIS , IT CANOT DESTROY THE FILES AS IF IT WANTS , THE CIC SHALL MAINTAIN THE RECORDS AS PER CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OFFICES PUBLIC RECORDS ACT , FOR EXPAMPLE THE COURTS ARE PRESERVING THE CASE RECORDS AS PERMANENT SUCH AS PLAINT , WRTITEN STATEMENT , ORDER SHEET , JUDGEMENT AND DECREE , IMPORTANT EXIBITS OF THE CASES WILL BE PRESERVED AS PERMANENT RECORDS IN ORIGINAL SUITS  ARS KUMAR. B.E. LLB MA JOURNALISM  SOCIAL ACTIVIST , KARNATAKA  On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, GOPAL PRASAD <gopal.eshakti@gmail.com> wrote: It is wrong. We will fight for this illegal decision by CIC. CIC is not the decision making nor ammendment authority of this Act because the RTI Act 2005 is the Act of Parliament. It is most necessary to aware about this decision amongst general public and RTI activists especially. Gopal Prasad (RTI Activist) House No. 210, Street No. 3, Pal Mohalla, Mandawali Delhi - 110092 Mob: 09540650860 2011/2/5, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>: > It is short-sightness to presume that if a case is solved, the decision has > became redundant.  Because of this fact, the decisions are being uploaded on > the website as the  same decision will be applicable on the cases with > similar facts and complaints.  Same will also be useful for CPIO/ Public > Authorities as well as to the public. > > Mr. Kamal Shah, I inform you that some decisions taken early, as I pointed > out in my earlier emails, are not available on the website or say have been > removed/ deleted. > > The argument that a single fire can vanish this decision.  If we buy this > argument, there is no need to maintain any records in any office.  This may > also urge some vicarious minded person to ignate fire to get rid the > records.  In income tax, we have seen fire in many years and that has caused > loss of unimaginable amount to the govt. exchequre by way of being not > able to follow tax  demands and cases in the court and IT tribunal. > > I am going to write to CCIC for re-loading the removed and deletged > decisions again on the CIC website.   If required, can also file an RTI > appln raising query about the identify of the officials on whose orders old > decision were removed from the website and some allied queries.  If some > other members also undertake such an exercise, issue will carry more weight > and seriousness. > > --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > > > From: Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 > months > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 2:00 PM > > > > > > > > It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to > sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire . > The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website . > > Regards, > > Kamal Shah > --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 > months > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM > > > > > > > The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for > 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC? > > > > > > From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> > To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy > <sroy.mb@gmail.com> > Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM > Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 > months > > > > Dear Mr. Roy, > > Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the > satisfaction of the appellant? > > I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me > information within 10 days > but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to > DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also. > The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr. > Wajahat Habibullah and his successor > Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order > of 31st March, 2009? > > Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing > has been fixed. There is no hope for next > 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also? > > There seems to be all round confusion. > > Hari Goyal > 31.01.2011 > >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530 >> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 >> months >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com >> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> >> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be >> destroyed. >> >> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011). >> >> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator. >> >> Sarbajit > > > > >