Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Mr. Shailesh Gandhi

Mr Sarbajit,

Cannot comment on anything else..... but your comment about :

"....admit that these were due to the inputs given to him by 

Mr. Aakshdeep and other Law officers of CIC. "

Never interacted with any other law officer, but Mr Mr Akashdeep - and in 

fact many staff & officers - of the CIC are inept, incompetent, inefficient, corrupt, 

disobedient, insubordinate and also lethargic.

The only path they know is the one of least resistance and the only policy

they follow while speaking is "speak what your boss wants to hear" so that 

they get a good APAR and continue to relax in the salubrious pinjrapoles located

at the A K Bhawan / old JNU Campus.

Stop wasting your time on someone who has demitted office and get after

the ones who are still spoiling the show.

RTIwanted

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From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 7:05 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: Mr. Shailesh Gandhi

Dear Girish

As you know some forces are trying to further frustrate RTI movement
by agitating /  propounding that 50% of CIC members (ie. ICs)
should be from Judicial background etc.

Mr. Shailesh Gandhi's entire catena of 'bakwaas' orders on his
blinkered (and ignorant) view of RTI Act comes in very handy for
such anti-RTI forces to show why judicial persons must be in CIC.

We are both in possession of the text of an email Shailesh has written
recently (forwarded by you to me) where he has expressed his
"loneliness"
at the CIC. By my rough and ready reckoning there have been about
9 co-terminus ICs with SG. All of them (with exception of IC-AD about
whom I
cannot comment) had sufficient "babu" experience to draft orders which
would stand up to cursory judicial review. Shailesh regretably ALONE
did not have this experience - and it showed in each and every one
of his badly drafted orders - which reeked (to any experienced person)
of ineptitude.

To cover up his ineptitude, Shailesh resorted to passing mechanical
(what I call "cyclostyled") orders - ie. what an LDC would draft for
preliminary submission to his superiors.  In other words Shailesh
extended his prior art - ie. stamping out cheap plastic moulded bottle
tops
on a conveyor line basis - to his orders. He failed to appreciate that
quasi judicial orders cannot be stamped out on a conveyor line basis
IN EACH AND EVERY CASE. It was inevitable that he would be caught out
- and he has.

Let me say that I regularly monitor Delhi High Court RTI judgments.
It is trite that the majority of  "ordinary" (by which I mean low
profile)
Writs are filed against SG's orders. Hardly ever do I find the kind of
stinging observations made against SG in orders against other ICs.
The only other case I can remember is against CIC Habibullah
in the DDA matter where I personally pressed for such observations
to be made against him.

Yes, SG does have 1 or 2 positive RTI judgments on his decisions
from Delhi High Court - but I am sure he will admit that these were
due
to the inputs given to him by Mr. Aakshdeep and other Law officers
of CIC. Or is it SG's case that he never sought the opinion of CIC's
Law Officers like his brother ICs ?

The RTI Act came about due to the efforts of many people. Whereas
Mr. Gandhi,. Ms. Aruna Roy,  Shekhar Singh, Sonia Gandhi etc
shamelessly try to take all the credit for this, I would advise you to
go through the records of DoPT (if they still have them) to see the
number of individual citizens of India, unaffiliated to these UPA/
NCPRI
haramis, who also pitched in / agitated to bring about this
revolution.

If it had not been for people like me, the DoPT would have notified
their amended RTI Rules by now - with Aruna Roy's 500 word limit
et al.

If it had not been for people like me, the CIC would still have been
running their Management Regulations.

Conversely, It is because of bought off RTI traitors (Mir Jafars)
like Mr. Shailesh Gandhi that the RTI movement is so weakened
today.

Let me also say that respecting Mr. Gandhi's office as IC
I regularly used "proper channels" to get him to mend his
egoistic (and corrupt) ways. Anybody can file an RTI to CIC to
get copies of these. Had he heeded my cautions he would not
be facing such adverse orders / observations from the Courts
today.

Mr Gandhi (and his followers) refuses to accept that they MAY be
in the wrong. Instead they blame the judge, the system, the law
etc etc .. In other words everybody but themselves. A classic
persecution complex

Sarbajit

On Aug 5, 8:24 pm, Girish Mittal <rtng.mit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know what Mr. Roy is trying to prove by putting the ex-parte orders
> of Vipin Sanghi to this group.
>
> These are not judgments (as Mr. Roy is trying to prove). Besides, as Mr.
> Gandhi's orders were challenged in DHC, Mr. Sanghi's orders, if any, are
> open to challenge before division bench/SC.
>
> Just for information of Mr. Roy, there are several such cases filed by
> RBI/NABARD primarily against the orders of Mr. Gandhi, which are now
> pending in SC as RBI has filed Transfer petitions. I believe all well
> meaning citizens should join forces to prevent anti-transparency forces to
> join hands and influence our courts..
>
> For information of Mr. Roy, an order of Deepak Sandhu has also been
> challenged by SBI in DHC.
>
> I believe this group would be more meaningful if used for exchange of
> information, rather than used for personal tirades of one individual.
>
> Regards.
>
> Girish Mittal