Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: {ICAN} Fwd: [Manushi] Love Jehad -Real Threat or Phobic Fantasy?

There is more in the article written by Madhu Kishwar. The conditions of Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Firstly, Hinduism, is not a religion, in the sense that religions have a organised structure. Hinduism can at best be described as Indian culture. It might have many weaknesses, unworthy practices, which can be similarly found in other religions, cultures too ;but, its biggest strength is that It reflects freedom of thought and evolution,  and that's not available  in other organised religions.That's why we have so many people with Hindu names, in this list as well, who exercise this freedom and openly criticize Hindus and side with Muslim brothers.
Nothing wrong! That's the greatness of this culture, the freedom it gives.
My worry is if we are overdoing this benevolency and jeopardizing the future of this great culture. Wouldn't  we lead to self destruction this way !

Such questions lead us to think
why no or little concern about:
-  Hindus losing their majority in Assam.
-  Hindus ethnically cleansed from Kashmir. But there is a lot of concern about        Army heavy handedness there. Nothing wrong in that but why just one sided.
-  Right next door to Delhi, riots in Muzzafarnagar happened due to planned attack    and   massacre ( happened on canal crossings, with a strategy to sandwich          them) of    Hindus who were returning after holding a panchayat.
   But, our educated, elite, secular Hindus put the blame for the consequent riots      on Hindutva. This is sheer disregard and contempt of the pains of Hindus who      lost their kith and kin in the canal massacre. There was no Hindutva involved        here but our secular Hindus have misled the entire nation.

No secular Hindu is talking about bringing to book those people who orchestrated the canal massacre, but have all time to sympathize with the riots victim, that happened as a consequence. 
It is this indifference at part of secular Hindus  that is creating this divide between Hindus and Muslims. The secular Hindus are proving to be more communal than the militants.



On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope all of you who have participated in this sensitive conversation, are honest in presenting things before less knowledgeable individuals like me. May I ask you to verify rather certify following things about those Hindu individuals who fell in love with a muslim wife:

  1. Did a Hindu male or female have to change his/her religion in order to be married in Islam?
  2. Did the male Hindu ever become father of children without giving them a muslim name?
  3. Did the female Hindu be ever allowed to perform puja of Ram, Krishna, Durga or any other deities? 

For these questions most likely your answer will be negative and still you honorable Hindus of India think there is nothing wrong with Islam, Islamic agenda (caliphate) and most of all 'sharia laws'?

Respectfully,

Dr. Kumar Arun

PS: There are many more question in my mind but please answer only three asked to you but with honesty please. 



From: shantibhush@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:28:55 +0530
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: {ICAN} Fwd: [Manushi] Love Jehad -Real Threat or Phobic Fantasy?

I believe Justice Chagla married a hindu girl and so did Justice Hidayatullah.Even BJP leaders Naqavi and Shah nawaz Khan have hindu wives Earlier BJP leader Sikander Bakht also had a hindu wife.Even in the filmworld Amir Khan Shah Rukh Khan as well as Saif Ali Khan all have hindu wives.Among cricketers also Nawab Pataudi had a hindu wife.

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On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:



I find this a worth reading article. One may agree or disagree but the evidence presented raise concerns.



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From: Madhu Kishwar <madhukishwar@manushi-india.org>
Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM
Subject: [Manushi] Love Jehad -Real Threat or Phobic Fantasy?
To: Manushi-india <manushi-india@googlegroups.com>




Love Jehad –Real Threat or Phobic Fantasy?
Who is Afraid of Hindu-Muslim Couples?

Madhu Purnima Kishwar

One of the most unfortunate tendencies in India's political discourse is to reduce every issue into a "for" versus "against" proposition following the pattern of school-college debating society's style of engagement with issues.  This propensity for polarizing all issues into two extreme positions an important reason why almost every issue leads to a permanent stalemate and we rarely move towards solutions..

"Love-Jehad" has come to be one of the latest additions to a meaninglessly polarized debate on a sensitive issue.  On the one hand Love-Jehad has been portrayed by Hindutva groups as a sinister and well planned conspiracy to seduce, abduct, blackmail or coerce young Hindu women to convert to Islam under the guise of love affairs with Muslim men.  On the other hand, the "secular" opponents of Hindutva are projecting it as a case of "freedom of choice" in marriage.  They castigate the campaign against "Love-Jehad" as a conspiracy of obscurantist Hindu groups to keep the sexuality of Hindu women under the control of Hindu patriarchs.

Let's try and sift the chaff from the grain of both sides:
To begin with let us be clear, even the radical Hindutva groups do not object to genuine marriages between mutually caring individuals even if they be a case of Hindu-Muslim union.  A good example of this is the marriage of film script writer Salim Khan with a Maharashtrian Hindu woman.  Salim Khan neither eloped with nor abducted his wife.  He secured the family's consent and did not insist on his wife abandoning her faith and family culture.  Both the husband and wife not only follow their respective faiths but also fully respect each other's religious sensibilities and rituals.  In their bedroom the wife has her puja sthal replete with Hindu deities while Salim Khan has a dedicated space for his namaz.  The entire family celebrates both Hindu as well as Muslim festivals.  Their sons have also gone for inter-faith marriages and follow the same inclusive lifestyle.  Therefore, these marriages have neither evoked social disapproval nor invited any hostility among Hindus.  If anything Salim Khan's family is often held up as an example of inter-faith harmony.  However, Muslim fundamentalists do look upon Salim Khan's life style with hostility






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