Re: [IAC#RG] In re: A two minute programme against violence

Brother,

Your statement is misleading because Hinduism is not a religion and states

Ahimsa paramo dharmaha, Dharma himsa tathaiva cha ...

Are we to be a nation of sheep to worship the cult of Gandhi or shall
we do our sacred duty to wage a just and righteous war against
anti-Dharmic forces ? Do we want to be in this world or the next one ?

So Brother let us confine ourselves to Hindustani thoughts and nation
building while ridding ourself of alien influences like Gandhi who
were imported by the British to destroy our national fabric

RP Dalvi,
Hindu Samaj of India

On 7/4/17, Biraja Mahapatra <birajamahapatra@gmail.com> wrote:
> I must tell you with utmost humility and information at my command, not a
> single religion in the world justifies violence. Our religion Dharma never
> and never and never justifies violence. My this statement has nothing to do
> with what Gandhi preached or what Christianity holds.
>
> On 04-Jul-2017 08:27, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Adv. Nauriya
>>
>> 1) The people on this mailing list are not fools. So in the interests of
>> increasing your knowledge about us / this list, permit me to update you.
>>
>> 2) Anyone with half a brain can discern that these killings are sponsored
>> and organised by the same forces which are behind political parties and
>> the
>> various mafias which infest this country (the biggest mafia in our
>> opinion
>> being the judiciary and their advocates who are out of control and
>> answerable to no one except themselves)
>>
>> 3) Because the State is unable / unwilling to stop these killings
>> (notwithstanding all the crap in the Constitution about Fundamental
>> Rights)
>> Inda Against Corruption views these episodes as State sponsored killings.
>> Today it may be Muslims tomorrow it could be us. Therefore we are not
>> going
>> to renounce our rights to self defence and usage of violence considering
>> also that the average response time in Delhi to a police PCR call
>> reporting
>> violent crimes in progress seems 50+ minutes.
>>
>> 4) As a pracharak (non-RSS) of Hindutva I can safely say that this
>> concept
>> of ahimsa / non-violence is an alien import in Hinduism from certain
>> "bania" (trader/mercenary) religions, banias not really being Hindus but
>> more akin to 'Jews'. So all true Hindus will reject ahimsa as being
>> non-Dharmic
>>
>> 5) Since it is well known that its the money power of bania communities
>> which effectively controls the legal / law enforcement, non-banias are
>> left
>> with no option but to take up the stick (lath) or swords or arrows or
>> guns
>> or bombs to defend themselves from a bania State's sponsored violence.
>>
>> 6) I also remind you that India achieved a sort of partial autonomy
>> (which
>> we do not call "independence") from imperialist rule only by sacrifices
>> and
>> martydom of true patriots who adopted the path of violence (aka 'The
>> Philosophy of the Bomb' - a core document for IAC members - which you are
>> doubtless familar with). We will only acheve full independence once the
>> corrupt vested interests are eliminated, and history shows that it cannot
>> be done without involving violence.
>>
>> PS: The automatic unsubscrnbe option is at the bottom of all emails sent
>> from our list.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>> National Convenor
>> India Against Corruption
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Anil Nauriya <instituteone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Point is : Do you support the kind of killings that are going on?
>>> If the answer is yes, please delete me from your mailing list.
>>> Anil Nauriya
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:30 AM, S L Chowdhary <slchowdhary@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I too reject Gandhi's concept of violence.
>>>>
>>>> For the sake of justice i.e. Dharma (it is not religion), violence is
>>>> justified.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover any selective outrage on violence is political and
>>>> condemn-able.
>>>>
>>>> we should condemn all violence whether it is toward hindu or muslim or
>>>> animal.
>>>>
>>>> To dub whole country as lynchistan because one muslim has been killed,
>>>> is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Adv. Mahapatra
>>>>>
>>>>> The IAC and HRA movements are unable to reject violence as it is part
>>>>> of our Dharma, our IAC manifesto and now part of our national civic
>>>>> obligation/s. Our movements are not Gandhian movements and neither do
>>>>> we
>>>>> emulate Jesus Christ to turn the other cheek when poked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonetheless, we are circulating your email to our members as
>>>>> requested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarbajit Roy
>>>>> for India Against Corruption
>>>>>
>>>>
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