Monday, July 3, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] In re: A two minute programme against violence

Bravo Sarbjit (Singh) !!!

These learned advocates must be continually reminded of the philosophy of the bomb which defines and pervades all activities of HRA.

LET US, first of all, take up the question of violence and non-violence. We think that the use of these terms in itself, is a grave injustice to either party, for they express the ideals of neither of them correctly. Violence is physical force applied for committing injustice, and that is certainly not what the revolutionaries stand for. On the other hand, what generally goes by the name of non-violence is in reality the theory of soul-force, as applied to the attainment of personal and national rights through courting suffering and hoping thus to finally convert your opponent to your point of view. When a revolutionary believes certain things to be his right he asks for them, pleads for them, argues for them, wills to attain them with all the soul-force at his command, stands the greatest amount of suffering for them, is always prepared to make the highest sacrifice for their attainment, and also backs his efforts with all the physical force he is capable of. You may coin what other word you like to describe his methods but you cannot call it violence, because that would constitute an outrage on the dictionary meaning of that word. Satyagraha is insistance upon truth. Why press, for the acceptance of truth, by soul-force alone? Why not add physical force also to it? While the revolutionaries stand for winning independence by all forces, physical as well as moral, at their command, the advocates of soul-force would like to ban the use of physical force. The question really, therefore, is not whether you will have violence, but whether you will have soul-force plus physical force or soul-force alone.

THE REVOLUTIONARIES believe that the deliverance of their country will come through revolution. The revolution, they are constantly working and hoping for, will not only express itself in the form of an armed conflict between the foreign government and its supporters and the people, it will also usher in a new social order. The revolution will ring the death knell of capitalism and class distinctions and privileges. It will bring joy and prosperity to the starving millions who are seathing today under the terrible yoke of both foreign and Indian exploitation. It will bring the nation into its own. It will give birth to a new state a new social order. Above all, it will establish the dictatorship of the proletariat and will for ever banish social parasites from the seat of political power.

Raminder Singh

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Sarbajit Roy <> wrote:
Dear Adv. Nauriya

1) The people on this mailing list are not fools. So in the interests of increasing your knowledge about us / this list, permit me to update you.

2) Anyone with half a brain can discern that these killings are sponsored and organised by the same forces which are behind political parties and the various mafias which infest this country (the biggest mafia in our opinion being the judiciary and their advocates who are out of control and answerable to no one except themselves)

3) Because the State is unable / unwilling to stop these killings (notwithstanding all the crap in the Constitution about Fundamental Rights) Inda Against Corruption views these episodes as State sponsored killings. Today it may be Muslims tomorrow it could be us. Therefore we are not going to renounce our rights to self defence and usage of violence considering also that the average response time in Delhi to a police PCR call reporting violent crimes in progress seems 50+ minutes.

4) As a pracharak (non-RSS) of Hindutva I can safely say that this concept of ahimsa / non-violence is an alien import in Hinduism from certain "bania" (trader/mercenary) religions, banias not really being Hindus but more akin to 'Jews'. So all true Hindus will reject ahimsa as being non-Dharmic

5) Since it is well known that its the money power of bania communities which effectively controls the legal / law enforcement, non-banias are left with no option but to take up the stick (lath) or swords or arrows or guns or bombs to defend themselves from a bania State's sponsored violence.

6) I also remind you that India achieved a sort of partial autonomy (which we do not call "independence") from imperialist rule only by sacrifices and martydom of true patriots who adopted the path of violence (aka 'The Philosophy of the Bomb' - a core document for IAC members - which you are doubtless familar with). We will only acheve full independence once the corrupt vested interests are eliminated, and history shows that it cannot be done without involving violence.

PS: The automatic unsubscrnbe option is at the bottom of all emails sent from our list.

National Convenor
India Against Corruption

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Anil Nauriya <> wrote:
Point is : Do you support the kind of killings that are going on?
If the answer is yes, please delete me from your mailing list.
Anil Nauriya

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:30 AM, S L Chowdhary <> wrote:
I too reject Gandhi's concept of violence.

For the sake of justice i.e. Dharma (it is not religion), violence is justified.

Moreover any selective outrage on violence is political and condemn-able.

we should condemn all violence whether it is toward hindu or muslim or animal.

To dub whole country as lynchistan because one muslim has been killed, is wrong.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Sarbajit Roy <> wrote:
Dear Adv. Mahapatra

The IAC and HRA movements are unable to reject violence as it is part of our Dharma, our IAC manifesto and now part of our national civic obligation/s. Our movements are not Gandhian movements and neither do we emulate Jesus Christ to turn the other cheek when poked.

Nonetheless, we are circulating your email to our members as requested.

Sarbajit Roy
for India Against Corruption

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