Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Supreme Court Collegium

Its a system of self governance. three tiered as  discussed already.The first tier is village Gram sabha; second tier is Tappa, a goup of about 10-20 villages; the third tier is hundreds of villages; at some places like Delhi, it involved 360 villages of Delhi. Jharsa 360 is the name of Khap that has been prevalent in Gurgaon and included 360 + villages of this region including many from Mewat region. Sonepat 360 includes 360 or more villages around Sonepat.

It had varied functions like defence, administration, social and judicial. To understand the system of functioning, lets take an example: a person not satisfied by the decision of Gram sabha can approach the Tappa panchayat and a assembly of all villages of the Tappa were invited. If still not satisfied with the decision of Tappa, he could approach and call for a khap panchayat involving 360 villages. Everyone from these villages are free to participate. 



On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM, kiran shaheen <kiranshaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
What is 360 Khap? Please elaborate.
Regards,
Kiran


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
(1) Focus is scandalous and shamelessly shoddy arrangement called SC
Collegium to hijack positions of highest  level Judicial Positions.
(2) I sincerely apologise if I, albeit inadvertantly and certainly not
intentionally, hurt the feelings of any social group persons. .

On 2/26/13, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
> Babulalji,
>
> Thanks for remembering Khap Panchayats. I belong to a village in Delhi that
> comes under the Delhi 360 Khap - popularly known as Palam360 covering
> around 500 villages of Delhi and some from Haryana.
>
> What hurt me is that you compared Khaps with SC collegium, though you
> rightly pointed out that khaps decisions are made in open and democratic. A
> khap is a consensus based decision making practice. Contrary to media
> reports, it never had any violence in its practice, in the past or today.
> Khap is a wall that the invaders might had managed to cross but could never
> demolish.
>
> What is Khap? If there is a problem within the family- all members sit
> together and take decision. If in the colony or village, all residents i.e
> Gram Sabha come together and decide. If in a group of villages, called
> *tappa,
> *people from all the tappa villages similarly come together. Khap is a
> third tier institution consisting of about 100 or more villages. A khap or
> a tappa or a Gram Sabha has no police power, nor it ever had in history, as
> its  style of working is not based on use of force. People are free to
> refuse its decisions without any fear of violence.
>
> The modern courts have failed all over the world, as we regularly resort to
> mediation centres. As far as settling disputes is concerned, the khaps are
> age old mediation practice.
> Khap is a third tier institution, where no case of sagotra  marriage come
> to it. Yet, it has been dragged into it by the media.
>
> It will be too much in detail, if I tell you about Khaps. A little light on
> some features of the khap region will make your understanding clear.
>
> - No Sati Pratha ever
> - Widow Remarriage
> - No bonded labor
> - No feudalism
> - sports orientation
> - Brahmanical ritualism at lowest
> - No animal sacrifice.
> - Pure vegetarianism.
> - Khap regions have been the most crime free regions even in the modern
> day.
>
>
> The 360 villages of Delhi managed to protect themselves from any conversion
> because they could organize, defend and negotiate with the Mughals.
>
> Khaps are the last temples of direct democracy and if destroyed, we may
> never regain. It is difficult to convey the truth in some sentences when
> the reader is already biased with heavy bombardment of media slur. I only
> wish the readers try to learn more about khaps lest we lose something so
> precious. If they are bad, ban them, The Britishers banned them after 1857,
> because in Delhi and all around, it is the khaps who waged that war. But,
> if they are good and useful, we may repent.
>
> The media slur against khaps is not about good or bad; it is about control
> of resources; it is about rural vs urban; it is about centralization vs
> decentralization; it is about capitalism vs socialism.
>
> Diwan Singh 9212061046
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Babubhai Vaghela
> <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear All, Supreme Court Collegium, to me, is worst than Khap Panchayat
>> that atleast work openly unlike Collegium working secretly.  It is
>> hightime that the Collegium is declared Arbitrary, Undemocratic,
>> Illegal and Unconstitutional Body - A Dark Blot on Democracy.
>> Regards,.
>>
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