Re:[IAC#RG]

HI CHOTOO,

I know that Navy does need me to teach some admirals the basics like Adm Ramu but I feel this particular mail is not for me.

God Bless you

Arjan

On Saturday, 16 November 2013 8:31 PM, admiral das <admiraldas@hotmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
 
Are you in Delhi / NCR ?
Why are you not member of Navy Foundation ?
 
You were our Training Cdr on INS TIR, and as your cadets (Jul- Dec 1960)
onboard, we of 16th Course, have fond memories of the
'dreaded / bearded Cdr Singhal'.
 
Regards
Rear Admiral 'Chotu' SK Das
President Navy Foundation Delhi Charter
 

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:32:31 +0530
From: tirronanni@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]

From Commander T.N. Singhal (Retd),

     I do not follow what the argument is all about.  Some people have

suggested development of a new language, thereby making EVERY

Indian illiterate.  I am not a linguist but my suggestion is that language

problem will cease to exist if we adopt a COMMON SCRIPT, most

popular being Devanagri script.  From whatever little I know (I am open to

correction) the PHONETICS are the same not only in Indian languages

but in very many languages in South East Asia. Lack of understanding

arises because a sound is represented by different symbols in all the

languages - make same symbol for a particular sound and the

language problem will disappear.

  

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:53 AM, tadepalli triambakakishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:

Ms ChhabilAgarwal,

You are on a wrong presumption that Mr Kalyanam want to rundown Hindi .

All Indians can communicate in all or a few official languages . Your quoting of facts in no way can diminish the utility and greatness of other National Tongues. Anthropologists universally are keen to keep even dying dialects from extinction whereas you are harping on some imagined  and non existent slight to Hindi by Mr Kalyanam ( & so called supporters).

No harm in communicating with rest of ( ie 100-41=59%) in the mode they understand.  I being a Veteran Warrior  also had the privilege of traveling length and breadth of this country and can never rundown others mother tongue. 

If an attitude of accommodating various Indian languages is absent it's a retrograde & insensitive step.

If you can,  do try to be aware that there is world beyond Hindi. Can you try to help non -Hindi people understand the profound thought of Mr GK.

Veteran TTK 

 

On Thursday, November 14, 2013, CHHABIL AGGARWAL wrote:

Dear Kalyanam and supporters,

I think you people are in dream that Tamil will become national language of India. Please come out from that and let me tell you some facts about Hindi language.     

Rank		Language		2001 census[2]			1991 census[3]			Encarta 2007 estimate[4]
(total population 1,028,610,328 )			(total population 838,583,988)			(worldwide speakers)
				Speakers		Percentage		Speakers		Percentage		Speakers
1		Hindi[5]		422,048,642		41.03%		329,518,087		39.29%		366 M
2		Bengali		83,369,769		8.11%		69,595,738		8.30%		207 M
3		Telugu		74,002,856		7.19%		66,017,615		7.87%		69.7 M
4		Marathi		71,936,894		6.99%		62,481,681		7.45%		68.0 M
5		Tamil		60,793,814		5.91%		53,006,368		6.32%		66.0 M
6		Urdu		51,536,111		5.01%		43,406,932		5.18%		60.3 M
7		Gujarati		46,091,617		4.48%		40,673,814		4.85%		46.1 M
8		Kannada		37,924,011		3.69%		32,753,676		3.91%		35.3 M
9		Malayalam		33,066,392		3.21%		30,377,176		3.62%		35.7 M
10		Oriya		33,017,446		3.21%		28,061,313		3.35%		32.3 M
11		Punjabi		29,102,477		2.83%		23,378,744		2.79%		57.1 M

 

More than 41% people are Hindi speaking Indians and you want them to change to Tamil or new Language. I think you are the person who supports corrupt politician's to grow by not adopting a common language in overall country. Politicians created this propaganda that no body from other state should come and divide their votes.

Request to stop behaving like a frog in a pond and  please come out from this dream and see the other part of india . I Visited almost all the places you mentioned and except Chennai never faced any problem in interacting with people in Hindi.

 

Ok let me ask you one question if you people are not ready to accept 40% speaking language as common language then how can you expect 40% people will accept that language which is known to only 5 % people?

 

Regards

Chhabil

My Dear Chhabil Aggarwal,

Thank you for your response.  You said that I should be ashamed for not knowing Hindi.  OK.  You said Hindi is a National Language.  Who declared Hindi as a National Language? A handul of Hindi Parliamentarians hailing from North India enjoying all comforts(luxurious life at the cost of TGax Payers Money)  at Delhi declared Hindi as a National Language. My humble request to you is to kindly visit down Vindhyas places like Bangalolre, Chennai, Cochin, Trivandrum, or East of India like Kolkatta without a Guide to explain you in Hindi.  After visiting these places without a Hindi translating Guide, please tell me your experience.  Then we will decide who is ashamed. 

You may be a Native of UP or Haryana.  Even in North India, you please visit rural villages in Assam, Manipur, Nagaland, Bihar, West Bengal, Odissa, Gujarath, Maharastra, and speak to them in Hindi.  Please tell me your experience whether they understand Hindi and speak to you in Hindi.  

My humble request to you is to understand the reality in the country and if you still feel that I should feel ashamed for not knowing Hindi, I am taking it on my strides.I had interacted with so many Hindi Speaking People and learned few Hindi words but, I cannot make a good sentence.  Non-Hindi speaking people who go to North for jobs, military service, business pick up Hindi and they become very proficient in Hindi.  So, the opportunities, circumatances and environment make a person to learn other languages.  Thus, so many Non-Hindi speaking people learned Hindi.      

 

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM

On Tuesday, 5 November 2013 7:24 PM, CHHABIL AGGARWAL <chhabil_aggarwal@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Kalyanam,

I think you should feel ashamed if you don't know hindi. Hindi is a national language since 1965 and till now you could not able to accept this fact then how can you claim that a new language will be accepted.

So please don't show double standards and request you to accept this fact that hindi is a national language of india.


Regards
Chhabil 
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-----Original Message-----
From: kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:33:41
To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]






Dear All,


The Message is in Hindi.  The Sender should know that still there are atleast 50% of Indians  cann't read and write Hindi.  Some Indians whose Mother tounge is not Hindi, may speak Hindi but cannot read and write.  

After Independence, lot of efforts had been made to Hindi as a Official lanugauge.  But, there are lot of objections from so many quarters, not only from Tamil Nadu and even from other States of India.  Like Constitution of India, which is borrowed from various Constitutions, it is high time, all the major Indian Languages like, Hindi, Bihari, Kashmiri, Gujarathi, Marathi, Odisa, Telegu, Kannada, Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali, Assamee,Panjabi, Samskrit  (Urdu also you include, even though, it is not an Indian language)  Konkini, Tulu, (There may be more more Indian languages, but there are the major speaking languages) Pick up (borrow) the Alphabets from each language and and script a new Indian common language.  Appoint a Committee of Expert in the various Indian Languages and entrust them to formulte a entirely a new language a combination of all Indian languages so that it will be acceptable to all Indians so that there will be a common language which should be introduced in all Schools at Pre KG itself.   so that at one point of time, may be after another 50 years, there will be a common language through out India.  


Once, we have a Common language in India, there will be little  partisan feelings,(all the linquistic bountaries will go) which will help a lot for India's development.  Even though, India spends lot of money for developments, it is not reaching the common man.  The Nature has gifted so many natural resources for man's existence like Rivers, Mountain, Forest, Lands, Minerals.  Even though, we claim to be more forward thinking,(unorthodox)  dynamic, we are not properly  utilising the Natures Bounty..  Other countries elsewhere in the world, are fully utilising the Nature's Bounty.  But, we are mailes aware from the developments comparing the other countries in the world, basically because of Linguist barrier which mar all developmental activities. 

INDIA LACKS A GOOD LEADERSHIP EVENTHOUGH, THERE ARE GOOD NUMBER OF EDUCATIONIST, PROFESSIONALS, ENTREPRENUERS, PATRIOTIC.  THERE ARE VERY GOOD RIGHT THINKING LEADERS.  ENLIGHTENEND CITIZENS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEM AND BRING THEM TO THE FORE, AND HANDOVER THE MANTLE FOR INDIA'S DEVELOPMENT.









 
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM





  On Monday, 4 November 2013 8:04 AM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Excellent work.please continue doing this good work for the people of India.

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