Dear all,
I have gone through the discussion and thought a
solution must be provided. kindly supply to all citizens including
judges , M.P., M.L.A.,,the following because of loss of character.....
"" किसी भी नागरिक द्वारा किया भ्रष्टाचार अपने खुद के पिता, भाई,
पुत्र के साथ, या अपने स्वयं के माँ, बहन, बेटी के साथ बलात्कार करने के
बराबर है "
"Any kind of corruption did by any citizen amounts to RAPE with their
Mother, Sister, Daughter, Father, Son, and Brother."
Thanks with regards
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From: Ankit Khetan <ankkhe2002@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 05:56:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sorry to say But I think that you are away from reality, seating in
Air conditioned Room enjoying your retirement. You have forgotten the
days of your struggle.Today unaccounted persons are in jail, not
guilty but waiting for their turn to be heard in Courts just to know
why they are in prison for years, what is their guilt.Supreme Court,
Constitution, Big Politician from the large expensive stages shout and
say Every one is equal in the eye of law. But while asking for
justice..where I am from..who you are, the poor guy...its my greatness
that you are alive.Great Chandran ji...Great Indian, Great citizen you
are. One person is asking for justice and instead of supporting him
you are telling who is servant and who is Public, In whose hand is law
and who is fighting for law..Yes I agree that Govt. does not supports
Judicial system financially, but dont forget we want justice and we
will get it.
Ankit KhetanIndia From: P.Mohana Chandran <p.mohanachandran50@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2015 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
Shri Venkataraman may kindly note that to err is human.Judges also may
err-of course not with the intention to err.The error may be on a
question of law or on a guestion of fact.To take care of such
situations,law enables affected party to file Appeal,Review,Revision
etc.Do you wantthe Appellate Court to confirm the trial court
judgement in all cases and thereby make the people to have faith in
judiciary.TrialCourt and Appellate Courts shall patiently hear the
matter and give judgements with out fear or favour.They need not worry
about the comments that may be made by persons like Shri.Venkataraman.
If the decision of Mr.Justice Kumaraswamy of the Hon'ble Karnataka
High Court is based on erroneous calculation (mathematical error ) in
calculating the total assets and total income and if the mismatch is
really more than 10% as is being propogated by some opposition leaders
in Tamilnadu, a mere Application for Review will be sufficient for
the Judge to correct the error.
The allegation was that since Ms.Jayalalitha is a politician,the case
was prolonged for more than a decade.On her coviction,when the Bail
matter came up before the Supreme Court ,coditional Bail was granted,a
consequence of which is expeditious disposal of the Appeal which
resulted in quick disposal of the Appeal.The economic status of the
party concerned has nothing to do with the case.
A resourceful /wealthy party may be able to engage a team of legal
experts and may be able to come out successful by taking advantage of
the loopholes in law.A 'daridra narayana' may have to depend on a
lawyer provided by Court or Legal Services Authority who may or may
not be good/capable of handling the matter.It is only in this matter
,economically deprived persons are in a dis advantageous position.Bail
is the Rule and Jail is an exception. Poor people are not capable of
engaging a lawyer and in cases that are not very serious,amicus curie
is not appointed by court for accused and hence they remain in jail
for days, months and at times years.
I shall cite a case (Mrs.Indirra Gandhi) where a High Court 's verdict
was set aside by the Supreme Court,not because the High Court was
wrong but because the Parliament amended the law with retrospective
effect.Incurring expenses by a candidate above the cut off limit was
an electoral malpractice even if the amount is spent by a political
party. Mrs.Gandhi was unseated as Congress spent in excess of the cut
off amount.During emergency, law was amended with retrospective effect
stipulating that money spent by political parties shall not be counted
to calculate the cut off amount .Both the decisions were
correct.Perhaps Shri Venkataraman might not have uttered a word had
Ms.Jayalalitha got the Prevention of Corruption Act amended with
retrospective effect exempting MPs,MLAs,MLCs and Central and State
Ministers from the per view of the Prevention of Corruption Act.I
appreciate Ms Jayalalitha for fighting the case by filing Appeal
engaging ,of course the best legal brain instead of managing to amend
the Prevention of Corruption Act with the help of Mr Modi and also
the DMK P.Mohana Chandran
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Raghavan R N <raghavan6@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir,
If some one is Punished by a Court, it does not mean Judiciary is
right . There are many cases pending Judgement in a number of Courts
in india, the two recently came up for public attention is that of Ms
Jayalalitha and Mr Salman Khan
Every one knows that Ms Jayalalitha's case is one related to Politics
and it is natural, every one wanted her to be punished[ her
opponents]. She has been an actress for a long time and her back
ground is too good to be considered that she amassed wealth only by
political means. Judgement by a Lower Court need not necessarily
decide the final outcome. Law provides more options till Supreme
Court. If it is a fit case for fighting, Govt should initiate action
to file a suit in Supreme Court. None prevented and no one should
close this option. Counting dresses , chappals and other house hold
articles for estimating the assets of Ms Jayalalitha looks odd.
In the case of Ms Salman Khan, it can be appreciated that this case is
not of national importance. Daily such run over cases happen in India
and abroad and even yesterday three women were killed under the wheels
of a police vehicle. It is an accident can be due to negligence.Here
too, the accused has options to appeal in higher court to get justice.
Bail was granted as he is an actor and is working in number of FILMS.
All get affected. Granting bail , fast or slow cannot be questioned.
Definitely, prominent people get things done fast and for others, it
takes time. It is Indian culture and way of doing things in India.
raghavan rn
From: boompellivenkatrao@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 12:47:50 -0400
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] WHEN PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY ,
CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING
One more case of SATYAM Ramblings Raju. The fraud is a open book to
every one. He got bail with in a month.
B. VENKAT RAO
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On 12-May-2015, at 3:41 am, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:
Judiciary in India has made a mockery of themselves . They know that
there is no one in the governing system who can punish them for all
the wrongs. Now with the judgement made in favour of Jayalalitha
clearly shows that how our judiciary has been working . The presenting
officers and the defence advocates have been playing games with each
other .At least punish out off those who have been proved to be wrong
.
Same thing happened with the case of Salman Khan.
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Venkatraman Ns
<nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
To
India Against Corruption
WHEN
PEOPLE LOSE FAITH IN JUDICIARY, CONSEQUENCES CAN BE ALARMING After
several yearsof trial in a killing case, an actor was held guilty by
the court and jail termawarded. But, he got bail in a few hours from
another judge. After several years of trial in a corruption case,
aChief Minister was found guilty and awarded jail term and hefty fine.
But,after a few months, a higher court judge called her innocent and
acquittedeveryone involved totally. Now, one wonders which judge is
right and which judgeis wrong. While richpoliticians and cinema actors
seem to have the last laugh, there are thousandsof dharidhranarayanas
in India who stay in jail for lesser crime for severalyears without
being heard. Are they not as much Indians as the cinema actordriving
his car on a pavement dweller and rich politician indulging in
corruptpractices ? Are we settling down for this sort of democracy in
India ?An average common manin India, millions of whom do not have any
political affiliation have alreadylost faith in the politicians in
power and bureaucracy. He has been thinking thatthe judiciary is
ultimate conscience keeper of the country. But, when judiciarygive
judgements with so much of contradiction between one judge and the
otherand providing bail and relief to the convicted actor
andpoliticians with great speed and with many judges in India
already having beenaccused of corrupt practices in the past, people
tend to develop doubts about judiciary too.Now, what can acommon man
do , if he loses faith in politicians in power, bureaucrats andjudges?
It is alarming to think about such situation and the possibilities.
N.S.Venkataraman
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