Hi Nicholas
Ah .. the notorious "An" of 7(9).
Ashish's book is engraved in my memory, and obviously that of many of his fellow IAS brethren. For example the famous tension in Karnataka between SCIC K.K.Mishra and Secy/DAR Rajiv Chawla resulted in this little gem lifted straight out of Ashish's "little" red RTI terrorist handbook to effect the truce.
"14. Request relate only to single subject matter:- A request in writing for information under section 6 of the Act shall relate to one subject matter and it shall not ordinarily exceed one hundred and fifty words. If an applicant wishes to seek information on more than one subject matter, lie shall make separate applications:
Provided that in case, the request made relates to more than one subject matter, the Public Information Officer may respond to the request relating to the first subject matter only and may advise the applicant to make separate application for each of the other subject matters.
(Inserted by notification No. DPAR 14 RTI 2008 dated 17.03.2008)"
http://kic.cgg.gov.in/jsp/Downloads/others/rtiRulesenglish.pdf
Sarbajit
--- In rti_india@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas Santiago <nick.santiargo@...> wrote:
>
> Another key word is "An". If a requester has applied for little bits and
> pieces of info all existing in various forms, then it could be that the
> govt. gets more flexibility in providing the information in combined or
> convenient forms
>
> nice debates
>
> Nick
>
> 1 - "Ignorance is Strength"
> 2 - "Freedom is Slavery"
> 3 - "War is Peace"
> http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/go-goldstein.html
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:39 AM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Col.
> >
> > 7(9) "An information shall ordinarily be provided in the form in which
> > it is sought unless it would disproportionately divert the resources
> > of the public authority or would be detrimental to the safety or
> > preservation of the record in question."
> >
> > The keywords are "ordinarily", "unless" and "form"
> >
> > 1) The information must (ordinarily) exist in the "form" it is sought.
> > In your example if the information is in the form of video then the
> > applicant (ordinarily) must seek it in the form of a video/diskette,
> > he should not ask for printouts from the video.
> >
> > 2) By the Act, the PIO has some discretion in the matter. He can plead
> > that it would a) DISPROPORTIONATELY divert the resources of the P/A
> > (otherwise this is a very wide ranging term) b) endanger the
> > information. Once he takes one of or both these pleas, then it is open
> > to him to provide the material in some other form. Of course it can be
> > challenged in appeal.
> >
> > 3) The usual tactic the PIOs use is to say we are allowing
> > "inspection" come and select what you want to copy. This tactic is to
> > be evaluated with care and is NOT to be rejected out of hand. It can
> > be a "win-win" situation if the citizen is as competent as the PIO and
> > cooperates with the PIO. OTH, if the applicant is a duffer then the
> > PIO will escape from his obligations.
> >
> > 4) "Convenience" of the PIO is irrelevant. We must first see the form
> > in which the information exists, and the ease with which COPIES of the
> > information can be made to provide to the
> > applicant against payment. A picture is worth a 1000 words. A CD/video
> > (at Rs. 50) is much better than 100,000 printouts of every frame
> > therein at Rs. 2 per page
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> >
> > On 6/21/10, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@... <colnrkurup%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > Section 7(9) stipulate provision of informtion ordinarily in the form
> > > in which it is sought. A doubt has arisen whether this provision is
> > > reciprocative or not i.e., If the PIO consider that provision of the
> > > information cannot be done in the form in which it is sought on a plea
> > > that it would disproportionatly divert the resources or would be
> > > detrimental to the safety or preservation of the record in question;
> > > is the PIO within his legal parameter if he FULLY PROVIDE THE
> > > INFORMATION SOUGHT in a different form convenient to the PIO which he
> > > claim will save him from disproportionately diverting his resources ?
> > >
> > > For Eg. A cityzen seek the information in video form The PIO provide
> > > it in printed form. Does the applicant has any locus standi when he
> > > insist on its provision in the video form when he has already been
> > > provided the required information in printed form ?
> > >
> >
> >
>
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