Dear All,
I perfectly agree with the mail below as each time we are finding people bashing insignificant issues... like delhi electricity work by kejriwal. but coal scam 2g and please refer web for further scams are ignored by the resist mail list. I will be very surprise if my mail is published on the mailing list.
I openly ask people who are criticizing some one who are working to work together against such corruption. Particularly people are not interested in Congress Scams and even when they are discussed then they are closed immediately or mod prevents the publications for the same.
Regards,
Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar
To acquire knowledge, one must study;
but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.
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- Marilyn vos Savant
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Naveen Johri <naveenjohri@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Air Commodore Pannu,Thanks for hitting the nail on the head. These sentiments are shared by many urbanites.Most of us are getting convinced by the day that indiaresists has been taken over by the corrupt ruling dispensation overtly or covertly.Hence it has now primary objectives of:bashing Arvind Kejriwalbashing Modibashing BJPsupport corrupt dispensation by depreciating the above.strong remarks and criticism of Sarbajit and company are censored by SYMPA.God save the country after armed forcesOn Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:17 AM, T Pannu <tpannu@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Sarbajit,While appreciating your gesture of finding time to attend to the points raised by me, I regret to mention that you have not done justice. Please go over the problem once again.Mr Kumar Arun fwded the mail from another Mr Kumar making a request as follows:-(Reaching Citizens of India for RTI approach through you, please do forward)I guess he approached you with the intention that you, being the Convenor of IAC, will be able to help. The same intention seemed repeated in the mail from Mr Vijoy Ambasta. In my opinion, the appropriate reply would have been as stated by Mr Devender Thakur. It would have been appreciated if you had taken a similar stand & advised the affected party accordingly instead of splitting hair. I rate you very high in my estimation & expect you to know that corruption/bribery thrives thru benami transactions by the highups. Merely saying that no plane was " lent" by Mr Vadra (since he owns none) has no meaning. I can agree that the report may be false but the way it is chosen to be disposed off is not fair. Secondly, the way you expressed your feelings about Modi smacks of your strong bias against the man (Incidently, I am neither pro nor anti-Modi).The second point was about Chitra Subramanian's interview; agreed that Mr Kumar erred in clubbing it with the first one. If I could sense the error, there should have been no problem for you (sitting at such a high pedestal) to make it out but you chose not to say even a word about the serious topic covered by her. Instead, you again appeared to confirm your bias against Modi by bringing him in whereas there was no mention of Modi anywhere in the interview. Will you please read it again.I am disappointed, Mr Sarbajit. The justice should not only be done but should also appear to be done. Of late, I have started getting an impression that you, though claiming to be apolitical, seem to have soft corner for persons (politicians) in/close to power but try to hide it. Will appreciate if you can correct my perception.Lastly, I wish to draw your attention to the following links. This may help you to have a re-think on Modi; he seems to be standing tall among the lot.Veteran T PannuAir Commodore (Retd)On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Pannu / Sir
Lets see exactly what Mr. kumar_8134 actually wrote.
"Regarding Kedarnath floods:It as reported that the Helicopters lent by Robert Vadra's Co. charged Rs.2 lakh per person brought out of the Valley and dropped on an accessible road/ location, WHILE TO BRING A DEAD BODY/CORPSE, VADRA HAD CHARGED RS. 1LAKH PER DEAD BODY.
"lent" by Robert Vadra's Co. Surely this means at least one of Robert Vadra's Co.s owns / possesses helicopters to loan / lease / lend ? Which co. of Mr Vadra's is this. (PS: Mr. Vadra is apparently a subscriber to this list - since we are "apolitical" and admit all socialist & secular people and also communists and capitalists, but not professed child molestors).
"It is reported" - which reliable (incl. paid media) sources have reported this ?WOULD SOME ONE ASK UNDER RTI, THE UTTARAKHAND GOVT. WHETHER THESE ARE TRUE, AND ASK FOR DETAILS OF AMOUNTS PAID FOR PRIVATE HELICOPTERS USED FOR EVACUATION?
Mr. 8134 is a US citizen. Laws of India, like RTI, do not apply to private bodies ? OR, is it Mr. 8134's claim (as reported) that Uttarakhand Govt chartered the helicopters from Mr. Vadra's co. to dump bodies (warm / cold) on the nearest road?
Was any such offer conveyed officially, if so the copy may be uploaded. What is the difference between "free of charge" and "lend". As I asked, how many choppers does Modi personally own to send for use FoC ?AND WHY THE OFFER OF NARENDRA MODY TO SEND HELICOPTERS FREE OF CHARGE FOR EVACUATION OF THE STRANDED WAS REFUSED?
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM, T Pannu <tpannu@gmail.com> wrote:
Two points were made by Mr Kumar - one about heli-lift of affected persons from Kedarnath & the other about Chitra Subramanian's interview.Mr Sarbajit Roy, Convener of India Against Corruption (IAC), has smartly disposed off both by misleading the readers. He admits that heli-charter rates are Rs 2 lakhs per hour (missing point - how many persons?). Further Mr Kumar's point was about charges per person to the nearest road (this could be 5/10/15 mts ---). Any relation between the two comparisons??? After justifying the action, he strangely points out that "hay can be made by son(in-law) when the son shines". The obvious reference is to son(in-law), Vadra towards making money while the son (Rahul) is in control. Wonder if the two statements match. Further, by his reference to Modi, he has tried to divert the attention from the (the main issue) truth being sought by Mr Vijoy Ambasta, too.Secondly, Chitra Subramanian's interview was exclusively pertaining to Bofors & Mr "Q" (Quattrocchi). I did not find any reference to/mention of Modi therein but here, too, Modi has been dragged in. It does give an impression that Mr Sarbajit, who claims to be apolitical, is also hung up on Modi just like Congress. Because of this, he doesnt mind running away from the crux of the matter.The readers may do well to appreciate that both the above cases pertained to corruption but IAC has managed to sidetrack them. Is this what IAC stands for?On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:Blue Breeze Trading is a dummy company to speculate in land. It operates out of the Sukhdev Vihar residence of one of Mr. K.Nath's associates (Mr. Walia). It owns no aircraft directly that I know of.
In any case the charges of Rs. 1 or 2 lakh to fly out affected persons from disaster zones is quite reasonable and air charter / air rescue / air ambulance operators make hay when the son (in-law) shines. For instance the actual cost of flying Mr. V.C,Shukla to Gurgaon from Chattisgarh was 17 lakhs. Air Deccan's average charges are Rs. 2 lakhs per hour for heli-charters.
Insofar as Mr. Modi's offer of free helicopter transport is concerned - how many helicopters does he personally own to make such an offer, or was he planning to use the same Reliance, Jindal, Tata, Birla, Mittal, etc private fleets which flies all these netas around like some private taxi service ?
How much did it cost Mr Modi to keep those 15 Boeings on standby ?
A final clarification : This story has nothing to do with Chitra Subramaniam, and it is the same ghatiya tactic of misusing emails with a good subject line to propagate Narendra Modi. I hope that somebody has the guts to revive www.narendramodiplans.com and prove that democracy is still alive in India
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:It is important hat such news if true, must be widely circulated.the truth needs to be ascertained through RTI to verify the authenticity of the news.On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Reaching Citizens of India for RTI approach through you, please do forward)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:01:19 -0700
From: kumar_8134@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: {satyapravah} UPA exposed to average Indians - Chitra Subramanian DuellaRegarding Kedarnath floods:It as reported that the Helicopters lent by Robert Vadra's Co. charged Rs.2 lakh per person brought out of the Valley and dropped on an accessible road/ location, WHILE TO BRING A DEAD BODY/CORPSE, VADRA HAD CHARGED RS. 1LAKH PER DEAD BODY.WOULD SOME ONE ASK UNDER RTI, THE UTTARAKHAND GOVT. WHETHER THESE ARE TRUE, AND ASK FOR DETAILS OF AMOUNTS PAID FOR PRIVATE HELICOPTERS USED FOR EVACUATION?AND WHY THE OFFER OF NARENDRA MODY TO SEND HELICOPTERS FREE OF CHARGE FOR EVACUATION OF THE STRANDED WAS REFUSED?
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