Re: [IAC#RG] IAC's position on homosexualtity

@Mr Madhav Nalapat : respected sir, please lead us from darkness into light.

@Col Pavan Nair : The point is something else. That it is a CRIME if a
male penis is inserted) [penetrated) into the anus or mouth of ANOTHER
man, or woman or animal as part of (sexual) intercourse. This is a
HEALTH measure. If man A or woman A's mouth is penetrated by penis of
Man B (who has STDs), and "A" then innocently kisses, say, a minor
child these STD diseases get passed on to innocents.

Unfortunately the Section 377 cases have been instituted by
PROFESSIONAL PORNOGRAPHERS and INTERNATIONAL SEX INDUSTRY. Justice
Singhvi saw through all of them and UPHELD sec 377 in its entireity.
The sex industry rascals then somehow rigged a curative petition.

What they now want is the whole enchilida - LGBT sex legalised (50% of
porn is LGBT porn), prostitution legalised, SC declaration that
HIV/AIDS is a myth and nonexistent etc..

And from what my sources tell me, the amount of money on the table to
secure such an "ultimate" judgment from SC is MIND-BOGGLING !!!!.

Sarbajit

On 10/13/14, pavan nair <pavannair1@gmail.com> wrote:
> The point which has been missed here is whether any consensual sexual act
> between people of the same sex should be criminalised as it stands on the
> statute book today. This also gives a handle to the police force which can
> be misused. Pavan Nair
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The IAC movement having carefully considered the sense of the members,
>> now proposes the following draft resolution on subject of
>> homosexuality and allied matters like regulation of prostitutes.
>>
>> "That India Against Corruption opposes the arbitrary and divisive
>> categorisation of Indian citizens and other persons resident within
>> the territory of India to frame and/or amend laws and/or policies to
>> provide special benefits to any person or groupings of persons within
>> the territory of India.
>>
>> That India Against Corruption renews and reiterates its position that
>> the well established body of criminal laws in India should remain
>> essentially unchanged and not be tampered with.
>>
>> That IAC firmly denounces and opposes all foreign forces, and their
>> Indian lackeys, which are meddling with India's polity, including its
>> laws, to divide and destroy India's multi-ethnic peaceful secular
>> culture and society, evolved over 10 millennia of recorded history."
>>
>> The discussion is open, as this is a core issue for IAC ...
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On 10/2/14, ltcolttkishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Freedom to be LGBTs, prostitution and hope the kind hearts will take
>> > up
>> > cudgels on behalf of rapists, child abusers/ molesters, activities of
>> scum
>> > of the society like drug addicts, drug peddlers treating them as some
>> > unfortunate chemical imbalance of physiology!!!
>> > Too much of permissiveness is bad,"ati starve tar varjeyate".
>> > Is there an insidious attempt to initiate rot in our long established
>> > cultural values based on aggregate experience of Rishis/
>> Munis/jeevanMuktas
>> > .
>> > I feel concerned at the unabashed permissiveness sought to be supported
>> by
>> > some of the subscribers.Unless the majority are not taken in to
>> confidence
>> > the ' enlightened ( ?)and champions of freedom to do ANY THING' have to
>> hold
>> > fire. Possibly over a period of time and process of societal evolution
>> the
>> > unseemly things of present times may gain legitimacy and social
>> acceptance.
>> >
>> >
>> > LtCol(retd.)T.T.Kishore, Engineers
>> >
>> > On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:54 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Completely agree with this proposal, Freedom of an individual is utmost
>> > important and government has no role to curtail it unless and until
>> > enjoyment of freedom interfere with others freedom"
>> >
>> > Further, prostitution is required to be legalized and regulated,
>> > This
>> > will save many sex workers from police atrocities and forced sex. Even
>> > regularized prostitution will give a right to every sex worker to live
>> > freely and fearlessly and they are not required to work just like a
>> bonded
>> > labor under a pimp or brothel managers.
>> >
>> > These are all much needed law amendment
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Dear Raminder,
>> >>
>> >> Seriously, for a long time I have been wondering if IAC should settle
>> >> its policy on "unpopular" issues like homosexuality, birth /
>> >> population control in the same way that we have an unpopular position
>> >> on "right to own and bear arms".
>> >>
>> >> In keeping with the clauses in IAC's charter on inclusiveness,
>> >> diversity, secularism etc. I propose a sense of the house motion on
>> >> the following lines.
>> >>
>> >> "That India Against Corruption supports the freedom of every person
>> >> resident within the territory of India to explore all forms and
>> >> variations of consensual sexual practices, and marry irrespective of
>> >> gender. That accordingly laws like Indian Penal Code and Special
>> >> Marriage Act etc. require to be amended."
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9/30/14, Raminder Singh <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Sarabjit
>> >> >
>> >> > Good One :)
>> >> > And here's another :-
>> >> >
>> >> > The RSS, VHP and Vatican all have something in common. Being being
>> >> > mostly
>> >> > practicing closet homosexuals, they all denounce homosexuality in
>> >> > public.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rami
>> >>
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