I agree, rather than reading in between the words please read the sentences.In states like A.P we seen the the violations made from the grass root level to highest level in various departments are the reasons behind the MASSIVE SCAMS at state level and the national level. A.P is known for such type of scams by the previous governments, in several departments where the infrastructure activity is taken up like HUDA, Roads and buildings,Irrigation, APIIC, minig, power projects and Housing corporation,SEZs and mostly through in Public and private partner ships contracts. As you know the government is depending more on PPP schemes.
To day the CBI and other agencies in A.P are in the process of identifying the areas of violations made by the illegal connections between the political leaders and public authorities as it is seen in MR properties issue and this is only a drop in the ocean of scams.Thanks to RTI act,which has made it possible by questioning.
Mr. Vikram sinha I appreciate your effort and you should understand that I was trying to give a sample RTI application not the real once.As an RTI activist we can only guide them with samples, but we will not do their job as political people do so and benefit out of it.Let us not wast our energies on prolonging the debate and confining our selves to the e-mails.
I would be equally inserted in meeting you.
V.V.RAO
09849064309
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,It is nice to be part of this debate, as RTI APPLICATION FILING CAMPAIGNER.I remember those days of my participation in NDTV application filing campaign in 2006 along with Arivond kejrival, as a coordinator of A.P chapter I got an opportunity to expose my self to the problems faced by the new RTI applicants conducted in five major cities of A.P. Due to the improper filing, the applicants end up in problems for not receiving information and developing hatred towards the PIOs and public authorities.Several applicants couldn't differentiate the difference between RTI application and application under grievance.In early days of RTI act implementation, even the public authorities were facing problem of receiving the application fee as there was no proper guide line from the government in those days and there was no training and manuals were not available.Later in 2007 we have launched a massive RTI application filing campaign in A.P in 2007 with the help of Center for good governance HYD under the banner of United Forum for RTI , an umbrella organisation involving more than 80civil society organisations from 20 districts of A.P, selecting 10 mandals from each district, where in MRO and MDO office of each mandal was selected to felicitate the RTI applicants to seek in formation from a week long campaign. This gave good results, as it is observed from the 2007 annual report, where in around 9000 applications in that week were filed out of 27000 applications filed in that whole year and in contrary to the 2006 annual report, that year applications from rural areas increased by 400%.On behalf of the SACIR a civil society initiative in A.P, we are conducting the annual review meeting with all stake holders of RTI act every year for the past five years and found that we need to create more awareness and responsiveness among the PIOs and RTI applicants to avoid such type of problems. The biggest problem is with the limited man power availability in the information commission both by number of commissioners getting recruited and the supporting staff to be provided, which is in the hands of the elected governments. Unless this is solved we can not get judgments with better quality.For the last 8months A.P information commission is suffering with non recruitment of information Commissioners except for the Chief information commissioner, while there is a pend ency of 80000 RTI applications and similar to the situation is prevailing in the courts which is against the spirit of the RTI act.Out of the five annual reports we received in A.P more than 40% of the RTI applications are getting disposed against the spirit of the act just because of the silly mistakes made by the petitioners and the undue advantage taken up by the public authorities .I agree that the PIOs , first appellate s and the commission should over look these silly mistakes but when they are not concerned about it, rather than fighting with the authorities it is better educate the applicants properly.V.V.RAO09849064309the role of PIOs is more responsible. AfterOn Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Yes Agreed that is the Reason there are Transfers and Job rotations , But If you mean the Entire Job only For three years you must be an Extraordinary Economist who has Found out Some thing beyond Basic Economics , Hats off to you This Not Capitalism , Socialism, Communism but duaism.Let there be a Pilot Study on this and Think of Impact & outcome .... Sheer Chaos
And as Bye line May Have the Liberty to Known Sir what is your Vocation.
As to Capt Beniwals methodology On Job training and that too an In basket one Makes one Perfect
N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
--- On Mon, 29/8/11, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 9:21 PM
> Just a thought that wld help the govt
> machinery to run better.. let
> all jobs be on the basis of 3 year periods which
> encourages all the
> young generation which is inducted from now on perform
> better and be
> answerable.
> The state of the govt teaches us that a govt job once
> thought to be a
> life time of snoozing is a thing of the past and with so
> many young
> and able kids around , we shd make them busy, instead of
> hankering
> after some far of dream of a pot of gold in the form of a
> govt job.
>
> On 8/29/11, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
> wrote:
> > sir i agree with you that problems are created by
> PIOs. your approach is OK
> > for starters. but I make sure the PIO read the Act and
> act accordingly and
> > nothing else. this is important to force babus
> change their habits of
> > arrogance. beniwal
> >
> > --- On Mon, 29/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 3:30 PM
> >
> > Capt beniwal,
> > Several new RTI applicants are facing the problem of
> improper filing of
> > application, which is a pretext for the PIO to avoid
> furnishing of
> > information.And these silly mistakes are being
> entertained by the
> > information commissioners by not punishing the
> culprits.And also, this is
> > taking months of time to reach to that stage of
> hearing the cases in front
> > of the information commission, mean while the
> applicants are
> > getting frustrated.Why to give a chance to the
> culprits by improperly filing
> > the application by the new applicants?, to avoid this
> we are asking the
> > applicants to fallow the application format.This is
> giving positive results.
> >
> > V.V.RAO
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31 AM, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Sorry sir, No format required by the Act. we can say
> its better to write an
> > application in a format to get required info but
> CPIO/PIO can not force
> > arbitrary requirement. beniwal
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 28/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> >
> > Date: Sunday, 28 August, 2011, 11:30 PM
> >
> > Dear Rahul,
> > Under RTI application there are
> some compulsory pre requisites, fallow
> > them;1)RTI applicant should fallow the RTI
> application format (see the
> > attachment)
> > 2)From the date of application, wait for 30 days for
> reply, if
> > there is no response from PIO,
> > 3)Apply the same to the higher authority with in the
> same department file an
> > application to the First appellate along with the
> xerox copy of
> > the acknowledgement, and wait for 30 days, if there
> is no response from
> > first appellate then,
> >
> > 4) File the same to the Second appellate, the
> Karnataka state information
> > commission along with the xerox copies of
> the acknowledgement.
> > V.V.RAOConvener, Social audit council on information
> right (SACIR)
> >
> >
> National coordinator, Citizen for verifi-ability transparency and accountability( VeTA)HYDERABAD
> > -Cell- 09849064309,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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