Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?

If i may suggest the PIO office should be walk in office and not through the permission to visit procedure, which in most cases is denied/delayed. they should be independently sitting in office freely accessable to the people.

--- On Tue, 30/8/11, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: trident142@yahoo.co.in, rtiap2005@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, 30 August, 2011, 4:49 AM

PIOs are departmental persons and they are always trying hard to protect their officers in not giving the information.

All the PIOs should be independent officers and they should have independent office.
Similar should be the case with elections officers and its staff. Election staff is also a deputed staff and it is influenced by the government.
No deputation should be permitted for an independent wing. Independent wings should have their own staff just like judiciary.


--- On Mon, 29/8/11, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 7:54 PM

sir i agree with you that problems are created by PIOs. your approach is OK for starters. but I make sure the PIO read the Act and act accordingly and nothing else. this is important to force  babus  change their habits of arrogance. beniwal  

--- On Mon, 29/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:

From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 3:30 PM

Capt beniwal,

Several new RTI applicants are facing the problem of improper filing of application, which is a pretext for the PIO to avoid furnishing of information.And these silly mistakes are being entertained by the information commissioners by not punishing the culprits.And also, this is taking months of time to reach to that stage of hearing the cases in front of the information commission, mean while the applicants are getting frustrated.Why to give a chance to the culprits by improperly filing the application by the new applicants?, to avoid this we are asking the applicants to fallow the application format.This is giving positive results.

V.V.RAO

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31 AM, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Sorry sir, No format required by the Act. we can say its  better to write an application in a format to get required info but CPIO/PIO can not force arbitrary requirement. beniwal 

--- On Sun, 28/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:

From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 28 August, 2011, 11:30 PM


Dear Rahul,

Under RTI application there are some compulsory pre requisites, fallow them;
1)RTI applicant should fallow the RTI application format (see the attachment) 
2)From the date of application, wait for 30 days for reply, if there is no response from PIO,
3)Apply the same to the higher authority with in the same department file an application to the First appellate along with the xerox copy of the acknowledgement, and wait for 30 days, if there is no response from first appellate then,
4) File the same to the Second appellate, the Karnataka state information commission along with the xerox copies of the acknowledgement.

V.V.RAO
Convener, Social audit council on information right (SACIR)
National coordinator, Citizen for verifi-ability transparency and accountability( VeTA)
HYDERABAD -Cell- 09849064309, 



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